Aug 3 2019, 04:52 PM
QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 3 2019, 02:33 PM)
I'll try to be objective here.. Honda's CVT plus engine overall..truly is nice and all. But compared to the cx5's diesel engine? As you yourself mentioned, it loses out. Absolutely no contest there. Next time you are on the highway, try this.. 180km/h suddenly, car pulls into your lane.. You have to drop down to say 110km/h, switch lanes and ramp up back to 180km/h.. Do that with Honda's CVT and then the cx5's.. You'll notice a clear difference in ease, stability and speed to ramp back up..
Ok, i did not try this, but CRV actually has higher hp. Found two youtube videos for comparison. CX5 2.2 diesel took 22s from 110km/h to 180km/h (video 26s to 48s), CRV 1.5 turbo took 19s (video 13s to 32s). Let's say CVT need ~1s to kickdown, i don't think CRV will be much slower. Yup, of course I do not know the road condition, weight on board of these car in the videos, but just want to quickly show CRV is at least on par. However, I do think CRV "feels" a bit sluggish from a deadstop
1... Plenty stations offering all over peninsula Malaysia. Wanna drive interstate? Non-issue as a full tank can easily give you 700 - 8xxkm mileage. Impossible not to find another Euro 5 diesel station within a 50km radius.
Yes, but both of us do not know where is this guy staying right?
2. Yes... Space.. This one CRV's hands down on top.. Which is why it's the first thing I ask those undecided between them.. 6 footer, big guy and after adjusting for my comfy driving position, I could still fit in behind the driver's seat. That would be impossible with the CX-5. Heck, some car seats with a kid in em, behind my comfy driving seat position, will be tight. So for those who need space? Don't even think it. Just grab the CRV.
3. AA/ACP/MRCC/360 cam/Digital cluster, etc.. Some of these are now standard and the rest can be retrofitted into the CX-5 G2 easily. Wanna know what you can't replicate easily? Performance from that good ol turbo diesel engine and the feels that come with that. You really should have test driven the 2.2d
Yes, I agree on your point on this. However, I am not a fast and furious guy, CRV is enough for me at the moment. Definitely would consider a diesel turbo in the future, provided EVs hasn't become popular in maybe another 5 years.
Summarily, I still believe EV is the future and hopefully next major vehicle purchase will be a full EV.
Try this.. Drive that coated car daily.. Expose it to the harsh elements as usual for the same one year and I guarantee you that coating would have been eaten thru and paint affected too. So I'll still stand by the logical decision. Save my dollars.. DIY all the way. Claybar, wash and apply a good sealant biannually.. Rest of the year, wash and wax regularly.. I achieve the same effect (easy washing and paint protected) without spending more than RM200. When time comes to sell a car, cars like these, at most having a "well protected original paint) will give you some bargaining power of what...RM1-1.5k extra tops!!.. The typical new owner in 5+ years will almost likely still want to respray the car or use as is. So yeah, if some people are willing to dole out thousands of RM on a coating that "makes washing easier"... By all means, do so.. 1 year+ on.. My cheap DIY job still repels water and protects the paint. For dried bird poop? Keep a small handy water spray bottle in your boot with some tissues.. Get home, spray and wipe off.. There.. Done. I've even left a few on for over a week cuz it light rain kept me from washing proper.. Washed and all's still good.
There is a catch here. Amount of time spend to take care of the car. Coating has an finite lifespan, so I would just send to re-coat after 1 year. So for a lazy person like me, I think my money spent is justifiable with the effort needed to take care of the car. Additionally, I notice significant less paint chip with coating as well.
Edit: Grab a Rain-X bottle and applyfor all glass surfaces.. 15 minutes work, every 6 months.. Same no need to always use wipers effect. Speed dependent of course.
This post has been edited by l2k: Aug 3 2019, 04:59 PMOk, i did not try this, but CRV actually has higher hp. Found two youtube videos for comparison. CX5 2.2 diesel took 22s from 110km/h to 180km/h (video 26s to 48s), CRV 1.5 turbo took 19s (video 13s to 32s). Let's say CVT need ~1s to kickdown, i don't think CRV will be much slower. Yup, of course I do not know the road condition, weight on board of these car in the videos, but just want to quickly show CRV is at least on par. However, I do think CRV "feels" a bit sluggish from a deadstop
1... Plenty stations offering all over peninsula Malaysia. Wanna drive interstate? Non-issue as a full tank can easily give you 700 - 8xxkm mileage. Impossible not to find another Euro 5 diesel station within a 50km radius.
Yes, but both of us do not know where is this guy staying right?
2. Yes... Space.. This one CRV's hands down on top.. Which is why it's the first thing I ask those undecided between them.. 6 footer, big guy and after adjusting for my comfy driving position, I could still fit in behind the driver's seat. That would be impossible with the CX-5. Heck, some car seats with a kid in em, behind my comfy driving seat position, will be tight. So for those who need space? Don't even think it. Just grab the CRV.
3. AA/ACP/MRCC/360 cam/Digital cluster, etc.. Some of these are now standard and the rest can be retrofitted into the CX-5 G2 easily. Wanna know what you can't replicate easily? Performance from that good ol turbo diesel engine and the feels that come with that. You really should have test driven the 2.2d
Yes, I agree on your point on this. However, I am not a fast and furious guy, CRV is enough for me at the moment. Definitely would consider a diesel turbo in the future, provided EVs hasn't become popular in maybe another 5 years.
Summarily, I still believe EV is the future and hopefully next major vehicle purchase will be a full EV.
Try this.. Drive that coated car daily.. Expose it to the harsh elements as usual for the same one year and I guarantee you that coating would have been eaten thru and paint affected too. So I'll still stand by the logical decision. Save my dollars.. DIY all the way. Claybar, wash and apply a good sealant biannually.. Rest of the year, wash and wax regularly.. I achieve the same effect (easy washing and paint protected) without spending more than RM200. When time comes to sell a car, cars like these, at most having a "well protected original paint) will give you some bargaining power of what...RM1-1.5k extra tops!!.. The typical new owner in 5+ years will almost likely still want to respray the car or use as is. So yeah, if some people are willing to dole out thousands of RM on a coating that "makes washing easier"... By all means, do so.. 1 year+ on.. My cheap DIY job still repels water and protects the paint. For dried bird poop? Keep a small handy water spray bottle in your boot with some tissues.. Get home, spray and wipe off.. There.. Done. I've even left a few on for over a week cuz it light rain kept me from washing proper.. Washed and all's still good.
There is a catch here. Amount of time spend to take care of the car. Coating has an finite lifespan, so I would just send to re-coat after 1 year. So for a lazy person like me, I think my money spent is justifiable with the effort needed to take care of the car. Additionally, I notice significant less paint chip with coating as well.
Edit: Grab a Rain-X bottle and applyfor all glass surfaces.. 15 minutes work, every 6 months.. Same no need to always use wipers effect. Speed dependent of course.
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.. Now, I could have pulled up other videos that shows the CX-5 trumps. But won't as then, it'd be simply arguing.. Hate to have to burst your bubble.. That was an AWD and sure slower on the average solid tarmac road. Why? Partly because that extra traction comes at a cost. A cost that includes extra weight AND power loss as it tries to "manage and overdo" things, than simply accelerate with good tyres on a good road. Now I don't know much about cars, engines, etc all. But I do know that Formula 1 cars aren't AWDs. And those guys, I reckon know a thing or 2 about going fast around a track. 
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