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post Sep 15 2017, 11:34 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Sep 14 2017, 09:20 PM)
Not anytime soon. It basically just cleared prototype stage and a lot more needs to be ironed out before mass production and sale can begin. I'd reckon 3 - 5 years before it gets here. In the meantime, lots of current engine needs to be sold off.. biggrin.gif
Most say it's underpowered. Take it for a test drive and if it suits your needs.. Pull the trigger.
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Not true, the hybrid version is not just roll out from R&D department as stated.
China already launched (during July 2017) the Hybrid version as their local highest spec variant wheres the 1.5T as low to mid variant.
So I don't think it need to take 3-5 years in order to be introduce locally.
Honda Malaysia is being aggressively upon launching hybrid vehicles lately with the debut of Jazz and City hybrid.
If the 2.0 naturally aspirated Honda CR-V couldn't sell, just throw in the Hybrid or i-DCD / IMA and there you go, the Honda CRV Hybrid. brows.gif
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post Sep 20 2017, 12:44 PM

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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Sep 19 2017, 04:09 PM)
hmm.. rattling, engine noise, head lights defects.... CRV worth to buy the high spec not.  hmm.gif
or tiguan
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Cannot do much on water condensation or fogging headlight and fog light, some of my cars has this problem and SC said is normal. You can claim as much as you prefer, can't 100 percent sure you won't get the same problem again with your new headlight.

As for rattling sound, I don't hear any. Bear in mind that my car was being stripped down (all door panel, A&B pillars, under dash cover, glove box, even both of the front seats are being removed) during my speakers and amplifier upgrade. So far didn't hear any annoying noise, and I agreed the engine sound is loud and rough when you rev it though. Also, the road and tires noise are audible but acceptable. Wind noise is very well insulated below 110km/h.

To my observation, after putting some miles on it (currently clocked 4k plus), the car ride softer and softer, becoming more comfy yet planted.
As I recalled, the moment I took delivery, the car is super stiff and harsh even after I deflated the tires right away (33psi all round).
VW Tiguan and CX-5 with 19" rims are stiffer to comparison.
Can't say I was adapted to it because the CRV is not my daily driver, my wife drive it the most.
Kudos to Honda, their NVH really improve a lot.
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post Sep 21 2017, 11:41 AM

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New Mazda CX-5 pricing, much lower than expected.

https://www.carlist.my/news/all-new-2017-ma...k-rm175k/47459/

2.0 Petrol 2WD GL – RM134,205.50
2.0 Petrol 2WD GLS – RM148,205.50
2.5 Petrol 2WD GLS – RM160,596.70
2.2 Diesel 2WD GLS – RM164,179.10
2.2 Diesel AWD GLS – RM174,779.10

Unfortunately i-ACTIVSENSE only equipped upon Diesel Variant.

While introductory of B10 biodiesel remain uncertain, many car manufacturers already drop their diesel variants and opt for plug-in hybrid instead.

Mazda 2.2 Diesel having unsolve problem at Taiwan.
https://www.mazda.com.tw/news/offers/20170912-1/
https://www.mazda.com.tw/news/offers/20170830-1/
Please refer to the link above.


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post Sep 30 2017, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Sep 30 2017, 10:22 AM)
johnnycp those screenshots above are not from the new CRV, is it?
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That is Honda City. Good FC.
In term of fuel consumption of the new Honda Cr-V, I'm not really impress though.
Best I get is 10km/L, 100% city drive. Driving average 100km daily, I needed to re fuel every 4 days which is frustration. (RM100 of ron97, roughly 40 liter, per re fuel)

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post Sep 30 2017, 11:25 AM

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Already prompt me to do oil change eh?
Still got 1400km wor. sweat.gif


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post Oct 4 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Susuwatari @ Oct 3 2017, 03:36 PM)
Congratulation. Join the FB group if you could.
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FB group? Did I miss something?
Link please. smile.gif
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post Oct 4 2017, 01:18 PM

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Been using this skin ever since I first got my car.
Quite like the fact that the background wallpaper, clock and overall interface is highly customizable.
Android base but the interface remind me of Window Phone OS, and Jaguar Incontrol Infotainment System.
Wonder why Honda don't advertise this as their default infotainment layout? hmm.gif


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post Oct 12 2017, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Oct 11 2017, 09:05 PM)
Just wondering from current owners. Is the creaking noise and nvh an isolated issue or common?

Second is if it is possible to change the background wallpaper on the hu to own custom one?
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My car clocked 6k currently and do not face any creaking noise, NVH is much improved as compare to old day honda, still fall behind the Mazda standard though.

You're freely to customize your own background wallpaper without changing the skin. There are plenty of templates available through the internet, just load your preferences into USB drive and plug it in, the HU should be able to read it.
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post Oct 12 2017, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Oct 12 2017, 11:08 AM)
Ahh.. Good to know.
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Bro, pull the trigger yet?

CRV or CX5, tough choice. laugh.gif
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post Oct 12 2017, 03:05 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Oct 12 2017, 01:44 PM)
See my humble mini-review below.. I'm usually very clear-headed about decisions and this isn't easy as both have their strengths and weakness.. Basically, where one is strong, the other is weak and vice versa.. 2018 Volvo Xc60??  hmm.gif  Have to eat maggi mee and no holiday trips. sweat.gif
TLDR: Need vehicle now? The natural choice for most will be the CRV. As for us, we decided to wait a year for the CX-5 Facelift after MM realizes their foolishness or work hard to get the 2018 Volvo XC60 in 2019.. smile.gif

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2018 Volvo XC60 will sat you back at RM320K plus and that is the most cheapest price with CKD and EEV incentive. Introductory CBU will price even more than that.
Then I might suggest you to take another look at the MB GLC250 (GLC200 if you need a car now, sub 300k yo) or 2018 BMW X3 ? biggrin.gif

Visited Mazda showroom to check out the CX5 during weekend and talked to some current 1st gen CX5 owners, they are mostly disappointed upon 2nd gen CX5, too familiar they said, no surprise.

So, 1st gen Mazda CX5 owners will go to 5th gen CRV while 3rd/4th gen CRV ex-owners will properly choose the new Mazda CX5 when come to buying desicion. Strange situation eh.

I owned the Mazda 6 (CBU, GJ, year 2013) for 2 years, bought new and I'm gonna tell you the quality between CBU and CKD are quite different, in term of fit and finish, locally assembled can't matches the one build in Japan. On your next visit, try to feel and touch the interior of CX3 and compare to CX5.

If you are not in a hurry, I do suggest wait until FL, at least wait until Skyactiv II, should be introduce end of this year or 2018.

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post Oct 14 2017, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Oct 13 2017, 03:02 PM)
thanks info.. i like the blue too.
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Bad paint job, clear coat too thin. Got many swirl scratches less than a month. Mine is blue obsidian color"

can you share some picture? did honda do something for you?

that ratting sound make me put a stop now... hmm.. any other SUV this range give sensing ?
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In a consumer point of view, even the multi billion Boeing 787 do rattling, what do you expect in a sub 200k vehicle? biggrin.gif
Joke aside, buying a car is all about luck, some rattle and some may not. And it is fixable, so, isolated problem like this shouldn't bug you on buying decision.

As for swirl marks, the moment you first wash your car, no matter how carefully you are, or using the finest micro fibre cloth or so, there are no way to prevent occurrence of swirl marks. Unless you coat (still there will be swirl marks) or fully protect your car with paint protection films.

Cheer.
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post Oct 14 2017, 05:45 PM

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QUOTE(MrBombastik @ Oct 14 2017, 01:30 PM)
Ride my friend VW no rattle at all solid as hell .. tyre noise also zero
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QUOTE(voncrane @ Oct 14 2017, 01:48 PM)
Bro, that's just an excuse people make in support of poor materials, fit and finish. My current vehicle, a Honda of considerable years and daily driver, has never experienced any such rattling. When things like suspension are good, The only noise I hear besides the radio and engine is silence. So how come despite all the technological advancement Honda Malaysia manages to go from good to poor? You hear about CBU, what's CBU? Take the same Japanese CBU, Let's not go German yet.. Don't they use materials? Humans? Robotic arms? Why is or why should CKD seen as truly inferior? You say it's luck, i say it's bad manufacturing and evidently QC.. Luck has nothing to do with it, a product is either done well or not. Think about this, you buy ceiling fans, air-cons, fridges and freezers, etc. Good ones don't rattle even one bit cuz fit and finish is a thing. My Alpha ceiling fans of about 4 years, all used for multiple hours daily and all still start and stop silently.. No creaks, swivel, shakes, etc..

Paint protection films FTW!  smile.gif
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My younger bro VW CC 14' dashboard and door panel rattle severely, tyre noise is even worst mainly due to the low profile tyre and the car is fully imported from Germany. Even my S400h do rattle, intermediately. So I'm literally do not care about interior rattling noise anymore, just pump up the volume, enjoy the music and how's the car drive. Well, that's just me. sweat.gif

From my experience, rattling noise will go away in time, just put some years to your car and the sound will eventually faded away.

Some owners here complaint about rattling interior doesn't mean every car also will have the same rattling problem (mine didn't have any rattling noise), one can't paint everyone with the same brush and this exactly my point.
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post Nov 6 2017, 04:07 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 4 2017, 08:49 PM)
It's a fact not simply claims.. Even if you don't believe it.. Go watch Malaysian Bobby Ang's review video and listen.. Can be clearly heard. I experienced it too. Instead you should say the noise does not bother you.
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Indeed there are engine or transmission noise when accelerate or you stomp the gas pedal.
But when you didn't press the throttle or the rpm stay below 2.5k, the noise is almost none.
Before that, should you learn more about the characteristic of the CVT, it will stay at lowest rpm as possible for normal cruising, hence, minimal noise.
CVT plus Turbo, simply mean maximum torque at early rpm, 3k rpm already can handle most of the road easily.
That being said, one who drove slowly and carefully can really enjoy dead silent cabin, why not?

Test drive? kick down lah.
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post Nov 6 2017, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 6 2017, 07:15 PM)
I’m well aware of the characteristics of a CVT with and without turbo. Test drove the top spec CRV and 2.0 CX-5 back to back in the same city with similar roads and the same highway. Not to sound like a broken record, while the CX-5’s 2.0 engine was somewhat underpowered, the CRV was much noticeably noiser and severely underpowered. Wouldn’t even bother comparing it with the 2.5 or 2.2d. I put up a mini-report on my findings earlier. In summary, none of these vehicles are perfect, but the CRV desperately needs better soundproofing and engine power. As for dead silent cabin? That’s near impossible with either. I use “near” cuz the istop does provide a silent cabin... That’s hybrid, PHEV & EV territory only. A CVT wouldn’t dare..  biggrin.gif
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I think your expectation upon performance is rather high, maybe you should consider 2.0T, perhaps.
I owned a Mazda Skyactiv G 2.0L for 3 years and I think the power is sufficient enough. Mazda got the upper hand as it is lighter due to its so called skyactiv body.
My daily driver is a 3.5L V6 hybrid and I don't feel CRV is "severely underpowered".
Although the gearbox cumbered the initial pick up a little, just do not let go the throttle until turbo kicked in, the car does sprint rapidly.
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post Nov 6 2017, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(wshoh @ Nov 6 2017, 08:31 PM)
Will agree that the noise is there on hard acceleration. However, for the CR-V main target market (family SUV), the noise is seldom heard as the typical family-minded driver will not accelerate hard often.

So unless you accelerate hard (c/f light foot/gradual acceleration) all the time or regularly drive above 120 kph, it ought be a niggling issue affecting only a small portion of drivers -> car enthusiasts.

As for Bobby Ang's reviews, after many views of his various youtube videos, kind of grown tired and unsubscribed because...ahem...his comments are too subjective, IMHO. He obviously gravitates towards the CX-5 for its driving experience. But I reckon a vast majority of CR-V owners buy it for the size/roominess (TWO (2) full size child car seats fit easily and you can still pull down the rear passenger arm rest) and engine performance (which I think is respectable enough for its category) is just a bonus.
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Couldn't agreed more.
As for bobby review, I do enjoyed watching some of his earlier review, but those most recent video are... commercial... rolleyes.gif
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post Nov 7 2017, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 7 2017, 09:54 AM)
Current daily driver is a Civic FD with a well-tuned 1.8 engine that from standstill, feels like a racehorse sprinting out of the gate. Can easily drop a gear, pull out from behind a suddenly slow moving vehicle and overtake rapidly. Press down longer and it clocks 150km/h without vibrations with rpm around 2.5k. This is an 8 year old car and granted it’s a sedan and CSUVs drive differently. I guess I did go in with certain expectation levels as comparing it with the CX-5 & Tiguan, both proving wonderful to zip around town and on highways. Yeah I agree, a 2.0T is more ideal for the CRV.

It’s alright, I agree with most.. The CRV plays to its strength as the space & interior packaging king. Then Honda Sensing with AA & CarPlay got tossed in. So those with such priorities would naturally go for it. There be rumors of the roomier Mazda CX-8 CBU in Malaysia next year.. Interesting times ahead.  brows.gif
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I do admit the CRV throttle response is unbelievably slow.
It is not severely underpowered, it is just super sluggish to react upon driver input.

7 seater Mazda CX-8 sound so good to be true, if this sell like a hot cake, I could foresight VW and Honda will follow and introduce their 5+2 version of Tiguan and CRV. Good for consumers.
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post Nov 13 2017, 01:31 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Nov 7 2017, 09:54 AM)
Current daily driver is a Civic FD with a well-tuned 1.8 engine that from standstill, feels like a racehorse sprinting out of the gate. Can easily drop a gear, pull out from behind a suddenly slow moving vehicle and overtake rapidly. Press down longer and it clocks 150km/h without vibrations with rpm around 2.5k. This is an 8 year old car and granted it’s a sedan and CSUVs drive differently. I guess I did go in with certain expectation levels as comparing it with the CX-5 & Tiguan, both proving wonderful to zip around town and on highways. Yeah I agree, a 2.0T is more ideal for the CRV.

It’s alright, I agree with most.. The CRV plays to its strength as the space & interior packaging king. Then Honda Sensing with AA & CarPlay got tossed in. So those with such priorities would naturally go for it. There be rumors of the roomier Mazda CX-8 CBU in Malaysia next year.. Interesting times ahead.  brows.gif
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As for 2.0T SUV, the official new (FL) Toyota Harrier checked all the boxes.
Will you give it a go?

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post Dec 27 2017, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Dec 26 2017, 05:02 PM)
" If you ask Bermaz or HM, they'll say it's a cost factor and that Malaysians don't want such features."
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Anyway, just accept the car as it is, like this car a lot as the interior seat space is awesome~ no regret. rclxm9.gif
have another question, hope anyone here can share.
When using the Adaptive Cruise Control (ACC)
I wonder when our car slow down in sharp speed, is there a break light?
frankly, using this ACC on the highway, it is really good for Driver, but big hate for car behind you, not sure whether there is a break light when car is slow down.
IF there is break light, the car behind you will constantly seeing you stepping on the break while vehicle in front of you still a distance..
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You mean rear brake light? Of course!
Your car slowing down by pressing the brake pedal (by itself), try to observe next time, your brake pedal is moving up and down while ACC is activate. Yes, even the accelerator.

If the car behind seeing you stepping the brake constantly, meaning the car in front of you also doing the same.
Maybe you could set the distance to the nearest ( 1 box distance on the indicator ).
Nonetheless, ACC is very useful during traffic jam and highway cruising.
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post Dec 29 2017, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(Henry T @ Dec 28 2017, 06:16 PM)
The scratches are already there when I received the car.

I will make a complaint but I wouldn't want them to replace it at the risk of them breaking something in the process.
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Acrylic plastic used on the speedo lens normally come with some hairline scratches if you observe it with certain angle (with direct sunlight or any others light sources).

Unfortunately the CRV speedometer plastic lens is tilted up awkwardly so those fine-line scratches are quite obvious sometime, especially under direct sunlight.

I do agreed your decision to not replace it, since they might need to first remove the steering wheel, steering column, under and middle dashboard or so.

In the other hand, you may find some plastic polish product like Meguiars Plastx to get rid of the particular big scratches you mentioned. Do bare in mind, it does polish away the scratches, you won't be seeing the scratch anymore, but it also create even more hairline swirl mark upon the lens. Swirl mark are invisible to bare eyes, unless one observe with direct light source. The choice is yours, cheer.
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The issues at China is actually a cold-climate engine problem, owners notices a significant increases of engine oil when they tested it with the engine oil dipstick, those are the mixtures of petrol and engine oil.

The official statement of the problem was "unusual amount of un-combusted petrol collecting in the engine's lubricant oil pan"

Normally un-combusted petrol ends up accumulated in the lubricant oil pan but evaporates under heat from the engine. Such evaporated petrol is by design put back into the engine combustion chamber as fuel. On cold-climate or winter, Honda engineers believe the engine doesn't warm up enough to help un-combusted petrol accumulated in the lubricant oil pan to evaporate.

Dongfeng Honda offered to updating the engine's gasoline injection control software, in order to manipulate the intake of fuel being injection into the combustion camber. However, you know orang china like to made a real mountain out of a molehill, they do not accept the recalled hence Honda halted the sale the car.

No similar problems was being reported other than China.
Although it is the same 1.5T earth dream engine being used globally, I believe the ECU are different country to country.
Same goes to the Mazda 2.2D engine problem in Taiwan, still people are buying Mazda Diesel here in Malaysia.

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