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post Aug 5 2017, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(WiLyi @ Aug 5 2017, 04:31 PM)
So confirm this pearl white is more metallic than the normal solid white?
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Definitely. You need to look for yourself, difficult to describe in word.
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post Aug 5 2017, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(voncrane @ Aug 5 2017, 12:55 PM)
Cuz:
1. Added cost.
2. Warranty void.. I asked and got that response.
Okay, perhaps I wasn't detailed enough in my previous post... The sensor is able to pick out objects from the frontal sides, so a motorcycle passing by or a crisscrossing vehicle/human or whatever from the side, WILL get detected if close enough. Things I got no detection from were objects that were tall enough and wide enough to be detected, if approached from at an angle.. But NOT from pitch center.. Vehicle was less than 2 ft away, got down to check.

Thanks for pointing out the other 2 sensors and I'm not worried about hitting a vehicle or wall in front, those are large and visible enough.. Plus, I have no issues parking it anywhere, my sensor concerns are based on the missus. Who's more of a sedan vs CSUV person. Wouldn't want unnecessary bumps and scrapes.

Now, it could very well be that the two front-most sensors on the vehicle being tested were...for lack of a safer description.. "switched off", hence the low detection rate. I did mention that I didn't drop by for a detailed test drive and others could check and report back. Just gathering data points.
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Nope, I did think of it, but not looking for an aftermarket front camera.. At least, not to lose warranty over such. Also, with the CRV's ground clearance and as pointed out in my earlier post, roadside kerbs or car park stops are non-issues. So it's not about how low, it was about solid (not vehicle-sized) objects in the center point/view.
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Did you successfully triggered the front detection even once?
Because the front sensors can be switch off and mine come switched off by default, also the lane departure warning.
Please refer to the photo, two of both features need to be turned on.


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post Aug 5 2017, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(oh-so-wow @ Aug 5 2017, 08:30 PM)
Test drove today the tcp version. As this is my first time driving suv, it is very easy to drive and park, in fact better than my c segment sedan.

But just curious, it does not feel spacious from driver POV. Maybe comparable to jazz and slightly roomier than HRV. CRV is a c segment or d?
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CRV is a compact crossover. It is not those full size SUV like land cruiser, range rover sport, CX9 and so on.
Exterior wise, I believe it is slightly bigger than any C seg sedan, passenger at the back got huge head and leg room, in fact, it is best in class already. For driver POV, kind of agreed, but I'm not a big fella myself, so not an issue, I think it is quite spacious.
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post Aug 9 2017, 11:22 AM

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A mini satellite sign just popped up suddenly and I don't think our cars come with Navigation or Satellite Radio.
I believe the Satellite / GPS receiver is ready and fitted in the head unit for others Android apps.
I'm glad the HU support others languages instead of just English (can display chinese and korean words as tested).
Was tested in VW Tiguan back then, chinese words appeared in boxes only. tongue.gif


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post Aug 12 2017, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 11 2017, 11:23 PM)
Did anyone do up your sound system?
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Cannot stand the stock sound system, mid and high range is okay but totally no bass, overall too flat to my liking.
Added a underseat woofer, additional mild bass filled in between the stock eight speakers, much better.
Push your stock speakers with an AMP won't do much, a 6.5" drivers will never match the 8"/10" woofer.
You may contact or search " Etoni Car Audio " in FB for more information.


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post Aug 12 2017, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 12 2017, 12:20 PM)
The lack of bass disturbed me as well but you are right, putting an amp will not improve the stock. Your photos are intriguing as I expect a bass box to be higher and bigger. I didn't know they have made one that is flat and can fit under the seat, so that's interesting to me to think about. BTW, the manual did warn not to put things under the passenger seat in case it interferes with the SRS air bag. Are you not concerned about it?
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My F30's stock bass are placed underseat too, both passenger and driver side, so I think it is a sensible place.
The airbag is fitted in the side bolster, and the actuator is located underseat, as far as I concern, the woofer didn't even touch anything under the seat, everything should work just fine.
If that concern you, you can actually place it everywhere, in the boot, or under the rear passenger seat.

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post Aug 12 2017, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 12 2017, 12:45 PM)
Thanks for your reply @Neo_Y. Yeah, likely I will place under the rear passenger seat. Have two young kids who will tend to kick things in front of them such as this woofer and the amp if I put under the front passenger seat, aside from safety (airbag) concerns. Also, I think the rear passenger seat could house both my Alpine amp (from the older car which was traded in) and this slim subwoofer side by side. Will check out Etoni - your shop?
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Nope, not my shop.
I find the rear passenger seat have huge space for AMP, plan to do so, will change to Alpine AMP and Speakers next.
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post Aug 15 2017, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(harryboy @ Aug 14 2017, 06:15 PM)
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What is yours?
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Just did first inspection (1K service) yesterday, only general checking without changing oil.
For those who got no complaint, you may ask the SA to only chop sign the service booklet and run off. (IMO, waste time)

There are "SERVICE A" (according to the instrument cluster and it vary depending on your usage) and "SERVICE B" (10K service interval), so when your car prompt you for service maintenance due, you must do your oil change alongside the Honda 10K service interval.

My next service said to be on 10K after, but the instrument cluster there shows 3500K.
So in my case, I need to do service after 3500K (or the car prompt me to do so), that's the service A and the mileage will be reset (I believe it will show 7k-8k).
If I continue driving, eventually, I may do the service A and service B together at 10K mileage.

Kind of confusing, hope you guys understand. sweat.gif


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post Aug 15 2017, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(harryboy @ Aug 15 2017, 10:41 AM)
You have lesser mileage than mine. I think it says "distance to oil change to" is 3500+ODO (my understanding). I was told again the the SC on the Service A and B requirements and not to ignore it as it will void the warranty. I know this requirement before i decide to buy the TCP but was hoping to prolong the A to match with B intervals.

That is the price to pay driving turbo charged engine. I wonder other conti cars having the same kind of service requirements on their turbo engine.
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Others conti car normally service at 10K or 6 months, whichever come first.
The longest one as I know like Benz or VW, 12K-15K or 1 years, whichever come first.

To my understanding, TCP service interval could be A-AB-A-AB, in which sometime B could be done with A.
Was told by SA that Service A only do engine oil change without changing the oil filter while B changes both.
So basically 10K service interval is BS, Honda used to be 5K/3 months interval back then and I don't see any different this time around.
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post Aug 25 2017, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(Honto @ Aug 24 2017, 09:09 PM)
Is it AWD important ? I wanted Honda sensing with AWD. Should I made a move with the current spec or wait ?
Buy now  then suddenly down the road Honda come out sensing AWD.   bangwall.gif
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I wonder why people here in Malaysia are so obsessed or persistent with AWD, it consume more fuel and cost more in term of maintenance.

As recalled, the reason why my dad have to sold his 3rd gen Honda CRV is because the AWD differential located at the back axel is malfunctioned, causes gear slipped and others problem.

People perception upon all wheel drive are handling, the superior grip during initial acceleration and grip during cornering. But all these are pointless to this gen CRV, this car is not meant for cornering, isn't it? I bet you won't feel any different if you test drive the 2 wheel and 4 wheel back to back. 4 wheel one also won't out run 2 wheel while off the line.

All wheel drive is important at country which snowing during winter time. Here in Malaysia don't snow, also, most people uses truck for off road instead of Compact SUV.

So the choice is basically yours.
IMHO, Honda sensing is way more important than AWD, as tested, it work flawlessly.

Cheer.

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post Aug 25 2017, 10:21 AM

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Did spec sheet mention about Honda Active Noise Cancellation?
No right? But our car actually come with it.
How do I know? Because it cause interference to my aftermarket audio system and I just unplug it.
Please refer to attached photo I taken for part number, it located behind the glove box or filter area.


Active Noise Cancellation (ANC) is designed to dramatically reduce low frequency noise in the interior. The system operates whenever the car is running, regardless of whether the audio system is on or off.
There are two microphones in the cabin area.
The microphones capture low-end drivetrain frequencies entering the cabin, and send a signal to the Active Noise Cancellation unit. The control unit then creates a precisely timed reverse phase audio signal that is sent to an amplifier, which powers the door speakers and the subwoofer positioned on the rear parcel shelf.
In the frequency range below 100 hertz, ANC results in an impressive 10 dB reduction in noise level.
Since the system is designed to cancel low-frequency sound, it doesn’t use any of the audio system's tweeters.
The ANC dramatically reduces exterior noise. In the frequency range below 100 hertz, ANC results in an impressive 10 dB reduction in noise level.


Video reference:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWknh2AM1hY

PS: For people who planned to upgrade their stock audio system to any aftermarket driver must first disable the ANC. Otherwise it cause interference to your sub-woofer (low frequency) whenever the RPM hit 1.5k - 3k.

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post Aug 25 2017, 10:37 AM

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I've changed the entire speakers in the car and upgraded the audio system like the following:

Player : Honda factory Headunit
Front Speaker : Infinity Kappa 60.11CS 6-3/4" Component Speakers
Rear Speaker : Alpine SPR-60C 6.5" Component Speakers
Amplifier : JBL GX-A604 4 Channel Full Range Amplifier
Woofer : JBL BassPro SL 8" underseat woofer

Sound stages improved very much, gonna say good bye to terrible stock sound system.

Photographs Courtesy of ETONI Car Audio

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post Aug 25 2017, 10:39 AM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Aug 25 2017, 10:38 AM)
Thanks Neo_Y - this is very useful info! It also means if I have plans to put an Amp, but everything else is stock, I still need to disable it huh?

edit: you changed Tweeter too - 2 front and 2 back?
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If that do not interfere your speakers, need not to disable I assume.

Yes, 2 way component both front and rear, changed 4 Tweeters in total.

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post Aug 25 2017, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(Honto @ Aug 25 2017, 01:47 PM)
Thanks for the explaination on the AWD. Is the stock sound louder in front than the back? Where does the installer tap the signal output? Is the back of the honda player have the signsl output for the amp?
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Stock sound system is good enough actually, high and mid range is good, the only problem was low bass, it's almost non existent.
The stock head unit do not have RCA output (low level inputs) the installer spliced the input speaker wires to stock speaker wire (high level inputs) so to use the signal coming from the speaker outputs as an input source for the amplifier.
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QUOTE(keane04 @ Aug 25 2017, 11:02 AM)
can share what is the damage? rough figure will do.
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All in around 5k.


QUOTE(harryboy @ Aug 25 2017, 11:26 AM)
So do you hear more noisy ride if yr audio is off since you had disconnected the ANC?
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Barely any different like before actually, ANC need a dedicated sub-woofer and our car do not have one.
(others country do come with high end sound system, there are sub-woofer originally equipped at the boot space area)

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post Aug 25 2017, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 25 2017, 11:05 AM)
Sorry to differ AWD not only for snow or off-road condition, raining or wet condition does help with AWD especially flash flood or sudden heavy rain at highways.

AWD vs FWD vs RWD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hlnw2SUgY6U
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Yes, it does help in wet condition, only when you're doing 150-200 km/h on freeway without turn on your traction control.
Would you ask yourself: should I hit the highway when it is pouring outside and my car only move with its front wheel?
When the car slipped and about to loss traction, there are traction control (Honda called Vehicle Stability Assist) come into play to bring the car back on track by applying the brakes to any individual wheel or adjusting the engine output.
This gen CRV also come with Agile Handling Assist (AHA), which basically identical to Mazda G-vectoring Control, it reduce engine torque and apply brake pressure on individual wheel during cornering.
So in wet condition, traction or stability control is more important than all wheel drive.

Also, the video you shown demonstrate the AWD traction with hot-hatch is actually inappropriate here.
Please refer to this link, this is how people test the ALL WHEEL DRIVE on SUV.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7B0VpJGdz40

The purpose of AWD in a hot hatch is differ from SUV because you don't speed and corner with your SUV.
Let's make thing simple, the purpose of AWD in SUV pull or push you out when you're stucked in snow or mud. It gives you extra traction during off road condition, when one wheel is stucked, it uses another wheels for traction and 4 is better than 2 in this case.

So now ask yourself, do you need AWD? rolleyes.gif

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post Aug 25 2017, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(littlefire @ Aug 25 2017, 04:41 PM)
The link i shared is to show that they are difference in wet condition (they are not racing & absolutely nothing in common in terms of power, torque or gearbox ) for different type of drivetrain and Subaru Impreza hatchback is not a hot hatch but rather a basic AWD system (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBQlK89PyxQ) to show that it does have its benefits compare to other superior FWD & RWD car. AWD is to transfer traction to each wheel efficiently and in wet condition it does help driver to control their vehicle more better compare to counterparts. The video it self does have lots of the driver comments of it and they also survived in their own vehicle with the electronic stability control on. Yes, 2WD with all the electronics can still save your life, but AWD will always have an upper hand during emergency as per mention above. Anyway Honda CRV 1.5T AWD should also have all the safety features add on except for the Honda Sense.
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I can't brain the bold statement. So you prefer Honda Crv AWD without Honda Sensing?
I think the AWD already have all the essential safety features (passive safety features), only without Honda Sensing (active safety features).
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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Aug 26 2017, 12:30 AM)
Anyone installed the door protection film ? Is it useful ? Usually the inner part of the door handle get scratch easily. So wonder this door protection film offer as accessory going be any use or will it be plain ugly ? It only cost RM273 in Honda website.
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I did, and also wrap the headlight, fog light and both of the side mirror. Not from Honda.
If your car is in white colour, dirt may stuck on the edge of the film so it can be ugly, car wash solve the problem though, but the moment you hit the road, it get dirty again. sweat.gif
Both of my car did at same thing, and the film is almost invisible upon darker colour.

Useful or not, the scratches at inner door handle can be wax or polish off quite easily actually. The reason why I did is because it's included in the package (I want to wrap the headlight only), so why not.

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post Sep 5 2017, 03:31 PM

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QUOTE(belfong @ Sep 4 2017, 11:41 AM)
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Anyone know what's this Square grill thing is for? Is it to access the dashboard? My SA has no clues.
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QUOTE(johnnycp @ Sep 4 2017, 12:04 PM)
I wanted to know too.. first I thought is speaker or something... it looks like some sort of air purifier as well
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QUOTE(Sitting Duck @ Sep 4 2017, 01:14 PM)
My SA told me it's just a place to put your stuff. Tissue box, small toy decoration. Not sure it's true or not.
By the way, did anyone install "Stolen Vehicle Recovery" CSE Connex? It's RM2960. Was wondering whether it's needed? or it's too much. There's a yearly fee as well.
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Unlike VW Tiguan, the panel cannot even open, how to put stuff, small toy or tissue box?

It is the center speaker grill (Center Channel Speaker for Premium Sound System available in some region) embedded with automatic light sensor and GPS receiver.

The automatic light sensor work not only with the front headlight (headlight on during night time or shaded area), the center display and the instrument cluster also will be dim even-though the headlight is not being turn on.

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QUOTE(andres_hcs @ Sep 5 2017, 12:05 PM)
Will those mechanical stuffs disrupt the driving experiences? Say if it helps me to brake or kept the distance while I chose not too, will I be able to counter it smoothly?

I'm not sure entirely how this works but if I'm driving on the highway all of a sudden there is a piece of tyre rubber how will it react or if I chose to react myself - will the lane keeping assist stops me? I guess it won't be that silly to disrupt our driving right?

I'm also worry about the maintenance of these mechanical stuffs. The sensors are external, touch wood if I hit the front bumper how much does it costs to replace that?

Any wise words?
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Lane Departure warning, Road Departure Mitigation System and Lane Keeping Assist apply light force to steer you back to your lane. The force is just right, not intrusive at all.

Lane Departure Warning usually work with Road Departure Mitigation System (audio and visual warning, steering vibrate, mild intrusive of steering correction) could be stop when you make your signal though. The feature can be turn off anytime to your preference.

Lane keeping assist work best with Adaptive Cruise Control (press the "LKAS - Lane Keeping Assist System" button on the steering wheel), it allow constant stay in the lane when the speed reach 70km/h or higher. When you cruising below that speed or the car can't sense any line on the road, LKAS will be in standby mode. Press the LKAS button on the steering wheel again to deactivate.

Forward Collision Warning work hand in hand with Collision Mitigation Braking System.
If the Forward Collision Warning sense or determines that you are at risk of a collision with a detected vehicle, it warn you with audio and visual alerts. If you didn't react or didn't apply any force to the brake, CMBS will automatically apply brake pressure for you.

FCW and CMBS can only detect vehicle, motorcyclist and pedestrian, so it will not react to any road debris.


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