PC games piracy is bad....mmmmkay....

Would be nice to see our currency appreciates further against the USD.

USD is pretty weak now with all the economic problems going on over there.

With so much of natural resources in Malaysia, it still boggles the mind why Malaysia is so behind Singapore in terms of both economic and education.

I dont know about PC games, but in US or Japan there a lot of shops that Rent consoles game right?
I see that can prevent piracy.
What i see why we buy piracy is cheap. People buy ori because they want to try online or he/she a hardcore gamer.
I have few original game in my closet. FFX, DMC, MGS2. In my view those game are worth to buy.
now i try to supoort Original pc games. My 1st ori pc game is CNC3.

Wa.. So rich.. XD

Anyway, i prefer to get pirated pc games. But these days, damn hard to get those pirated dvd anymore in shopping complex.. Hav to go pasar malam only got.. haih.. why lah..... If TMNUTZ has implement 20mb package, ehehehe.. No neeed to buy, just use torrent and kau tim only.. muiahahhahaha.. save alot of money man

Errr, actually im not that rich lol
Those 3 games (DMC, FFX, MGS2) are my ONLY originals games. I have to use my student loan
CNC3 is diffrent, i use my own money
Buy kinda agreed tho, download is "free". Hehe..

ya now oso i buy ori games... after my first original games ( CS Source )

my feeling when playing online was WOW....

because all this time if i want to play online i need to go to CC... hahaha

PC upgrade is different...1 year once only bocor bank this ori game like if i like a lot of games, the total alone very costly until more mahai than whole upgrade cost

hahaha

This post has been edited by skylinegtr34rule4life: Mar 6 2008, 02:30 PM

Ok, here's the deal... I'm feeling very generous today, so for those of you idiots who decided to promote warez instead of just discussing it, I'll give you guys 24 hours to edit your posts and remove whatever crap you guys decided to post.

Otherwise, 30 days off. If you're one of those who just post one liners here supporting the good ol' pirates and not care afterwards, then too bad for you.


This has been happening many many times before and has also been stated in the R&R for this subforum.

Discuss warez, not promote it.

I'm against pirated version but then I'm not an avid games player. Sure I got a few ori version of COD4, TF2 and crysis and each of them is not cheap. I don;t think it is remotely possible to get rid of pirated games unless they start revising their price according to the local standard of living, same as what McD or KFC did. In US, McD costs us US$8 and in Malaysia its RM8 (except in KLIA or Genting), not US$8 X Exchange Rate. We malaysian has to earn 4 times just to be equal to the same guy in US. I worked hard and I earned a lot and I can afford to pay for the games if I'm in the working class players but what about the majority of the players, made up of students in high and higher education?

At the end of the day, prices will be the decision factor and another 20% is self conscious. And the prices are again based on demand. Do I support pirated? Definitely no but pirated or otherwise file sharing (p2p) technology has been used by makers of software (games or otherwise) to gauge the demand of pre-releases product. So if more and more people download P2P or warez version, for instance, a total of 4000 users downloaded crippled version of Assassin Creed within 24 hours, then the maker knows that they can sell at higher price when they officially release it.

Looks like you pirated users are the ones making us original users pay more, so just stop using pirated stuff and simply don;t buy them if you think the price is too high. If you can't affford a car, you don't go around stealing them, you take a cab or public transport. In this case, go to cyber cafe games centers and play all you want. And if you can afford a gfx card worth 1K just to play games, then pay for the games cause the card is useless if you don't have the games.

Technology wise, makers of games should be innovative enough in marketing and designing their games to beat the piracy issues. I mean COD4 is selling for RM25 for 100 hours of multiplayer time or something llike that la will have tons of people lining up. Or maybe I setup a new business renting my ori dvd games for RM3 for a week . Remember the olden days of renting a laser disc for RM5-8 a week just to watch Dolby version of Terminator or Star Wars before the evolution of CD/DVD beat the craps out of laser disc (LD) quality?



This post has been edited by rainbow6: Mar 6 2008, 07:47 AM

Due to the nature of the PC system, it is practically impossible to have a game rental system which works. Currently, its not applicable because of CD-keys. Remove that, and game rental would effectively be like legalized piracy (Ppl "rent" games from you and copy it out ad infinium)

One of the surefire ways now for combating piracy is through pure online validation (Steam). Unfortunately, this erases the consumer's ability to resell games (Basically, no ownership transfer). I could see it working for rental though (You "rent" out Steam accounts) but again, that has a lot of strings attached.

I just don't see PC games rental as a viable alternative for the future.

Amen to that. Just a few posts back people were talking about concrete measures to end or reduce piracy, and then a whole bunch of people come on and not only openly admit that they pirate, and do so in a fashion that states how proud they are to pirate and why pirating games is so great compared to buying them.

If you're a poor student and can't afford to buy original games, at least express some remorse that you've had to resort to pirating. Even saying something like, "When I get rich in the future, I'll spend lots of money on original games as a way to atone for my piracy" would make it sound a bit more decent. Do you casually admit that you steal stuff from the people around you and boast about pulling off scams and cons?

Malaysians pirate. Everyone knows that. At least learn to be contrite about it. Everyone needs to work towards making piracy socially unacceptable, not promote it as a badge of your leetness or something.

Students can always buy those old 1-2 years old original games (Not too sure they sell it here as those value packages), they sure do in Australia.

Not only you get to save money from buying new and pricey games, you also get to save money from withholding your upgrade till you get enough funds via working.

However, most of the time when you do start working, you probably have very little time to play which is alright just buy one game that can last you for several months.

Financial planning, Malaysians definitely need it with very overpriced cars, impending increase of petrol price and inflationary pressure basically higher cost of living across the board. (Furthermore, salary that are not adjusted according to inflation)

lol , people with a RM 1k+ GC buys pirated stuff , means he is very careful over the money in his pocket, most Malaysian mentality. (but in a wrong way)

hmm...i don't support pirates , but CC aint got what i want to play, example UT3 , Crysis , Stalker , Serious Sam 2 , COD2/4 , Flatout , TitanQuest and other good titles.
Lousy CC with a AMD64 x2 3800 , 7900gs , a good system but stores some of the pirated games above. Means Suxx , limited accessibility and less game time with bugs.
Even the most original CC doesn't have most of the titles above , the basics is what the majority plays : Dota , CS:CZ and some some MMORPG or free-to-play games. (yeah, some classy CC have a few of the titles but located far away which isnt worth for a RM10 taxi or vehicle fuel.)

IMO ,some of those CC owners (no flame , hard facts) got their license quite hard and pays alot of $ kopi to the authoro-guys* (cause by those slot-machine CC owners) in order to get the license for a real CC with computers running windows , so most of them save their money by using pirated products (who businessmen doesn't want less expense and more profit ?)

BTW , unlike the U.S or other countries , we don't have a stronger gaming community due to some bad service we have , example like the connection we are using now and not much sponsors aiding CC or having more mobile-LAN events which works like a circus.
(our local ISP gives out attractive and reasonable price comparing to other country HOWEVER , they don't have any policy saying they will give first priority support to customers when the customers are facing problem, when the instable connection is here , people might given up buying ori due to the wasted time and effort for trying to play online)

Personally , people buying the Pirated product is the result , not the cause.
Pirates are smart , they know how our people think and able to adapt this market due to the economy status we have in this country. (i can say 70% of the population in this country buys alot* of pirated stuffs)
So why can't the gov think or deliver something better instead of killing the enemy which they can't kill ?

What we need for a stronger gaming community :
#More local standalone servers for lots of games (honestly , we only have MMO servers locally , and ive never heard of any FPS or RTS servers here)
#Gov should pay more attention to gamers , not only just killing the pirates , search the problem back from the result to the cause.

anyway , its my POV , any pinpoint is accepted.

Agreed , original stuffs tend to last longer in terms of replayability(mods)/physical quality and worth the money when comparing to its less worthy selection. Temptation must be tolerated or there will not be a good thing like what you wanted.

This post has been edited by LWRNCH6550: Mar 10 2008, 04:06 PM

Well for me pirated games is a testing pahse for me, if it good then get original, if it not good throw it.

That's like going to a whore house and try out one of the hooker. If you are satisfy, you paid. If you are not, you try to sneak out without getting beat up by the pimp.


The problem with gamers today is they want to play anything that is new release hence the fast-food culture. Games are not longer enjoy slowly anymore. People want everything fast and don't have the patience to wait.


On the other hand, game developer is currently control by greedy game publisher who wants to churn out nothing but same old crap (I'm looking at you, EA. Thanks for screwing Maxis and Bullfrog and Origin), which is why digital distribution service like Valve's Steam is getting the attention this day. You can find new and old classic game with it. And they are really, really cheap compare to box edition. Though I miss the box edition and its manual, but that's a different story.

Edit: Ultimate Doom is only USD 9.95 only on Steam. f***ing bargain for a damn fine classic game.

Ironlore is a sad case..

i surely i will buy original if a manage to afford one

online gaming is the best experience for enjoying a game in its full potential...

too bad... poor student like me cant afford one... looking forward to my first original after i manage to get my new gaming pc...

rather then spending RM70++ for a game...i prefer use that money to buy something that fill my stomach.

if price around rm30-40 ok la to buy original game sometimes...but still prefer pirate. mostly bcoz...i'm a student...where got money to spend buying a rm70++ game?

maybe u should lurk more la. we do have local servers since the CS days. now we have COD4 and TF2 local server by BolehVPN ler.

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Added on April 5, 2008, 6:32 pmif u can't afford it, don't buy it. gaming is a privilege not something u can buy, play and throw.

This post has been edited by SHOfrE3zE: Apr 5 2008, 06:32 PM

There is something call savings.You can save your money.

Im a student and im a proud owner of 3 ori games.It's not like students cant own ori games.

My 4th ori game is coming next week.

student prob is not about pirate game IMO,
is the application like photoshop, ms office which easily cost about rm1k..

The price is letting most people down, most of you guys (students) have their rig been sponsored by their parents. Some of us here is not, and limited funds, especially who don' have MARA, PTPTN and such

I only have 1 original game, and that is because my cousin gives me. All others are pirates (around 30 games in all). Its not like I'm supporting those pirates, but its just not a necessary thing for me, and far too expensive. Toll, fuel, eat, and my PC is fully depends RM100 per week (not including semester break, where I don't given any money), and I travel about 80km per day, and that purely from college to home.

I need to keep some money for emergency too, just in case for rainy days