It's not just UoA. One of the reasons is that first year law is like first year health science. It's a bit of a cash cow for the uni and the respective faculties. Just let as many in as possible, take their fees for a year and then kick out those who don't make the cut. It's a win-win situation for the unis, they get the dough and they don't compromise on quality.

Aaron says he's getting a PR, so he won't be an international student.

In general, try to avoid Chinese landlords. Especially those who live overseas and let an agent manage the property.

just for the sake of asking, izzit ok to do law wen u hav a pr? btw wornbook are u a pr? n its much easier to get a job in NZ if ur a PR rite?

anyways i dont think i'll be doing law. i'll stick to my orginal plan. (BA/BCom)
since u mentioned bout the accomodation, i'm swerving more towards auckland now...hehe

The reason why it's not advisable for an international student to do law in NZ (there aren't many places anyway) is cos there's no guarantee you'll make it to 2nd year. Tens of thousands is too much to risk in the hope of getting in where there are countries with guaranteed entry programmes. At least as a PR, the financial risk is much lower.

I believe that's what Haya is getting at, and I agree with him.

Also, with the size of the industry and possible prejudices, it'll be extremely difficult for an international student to be employed as a lawyer on graduation.

It's easier to get a job if you're a PR but not by such a huge margin these days.
International students are now granted a one year working visa on graduation (there are certain criteria to fulfil, but that's the general picture). If they get a job, it's a simple matter to convert that to a permanent work visa. So that deals with some employer reluctance to hire internationals - less paperwork.

Yes, I have NZ PR. Otherwise, there's no way I'd have risked doing law here.

IC. So even if u r a PR its hard to secure a job as a lawyer? (Going by ur experience) I thought New Zealand was experiencing a shortage of lawyers....

Haha same here....the reason im doing econs/politics is coz im gonna get a pr... if not theres no way i'll risk doing it too...wud hav done something like accounting instead(wic i dont like as u noe...but wat to do, int students are at a disadvantage)

This post has been edited by aaron4d: Apr 24 2008, 07:22 PM

I'm only speaking from my experience... others might give a different answer. I know many Malaysians working as lawyers in NZ, but most of them took quite a while to get their jobs.

There's no shortage of lawyers in NZ. Otago has 200 law graduates coming out each year, Auckland has the same if not more. Victoria has a bigger law school, so there's bound to be more than 200. Add Canterbury and Waikato to the mix and you'll see there's an oversupply of lawyers. Of course, only about a third go on to do the professional legal studies course (ie Bar) but it's still quite a lot.

Heh, if I were an international in NZ, I'd do accounting or engineering. But if I were international, I wouldn't have come to NZ.

i share the same viewpoint...... since im getting the pr, can afford not to do accounting or engineering, free to pursue my real passion in economics. yeah, if i were international, i wud rather go to australia.

ehmm lucky for those who can stay here.. .get a job, pr etc..
especially private student..

just finished my 1st weekend with part time.. tiring though...

It's not too difficult if you're doing the right course. Every single one of my accountant friends got jobs here and have got/are applying for PR.

i mean.. u guys dont have any contract with sponsor like me.. huuhuh
envy

it cuts both ways.......lots of people who have no money are envious of you for getting a scholarship to study overseas......so you better honour your bond.......

care2explain?

NZ tends to be viewed as a poorer second cousin to Australia. If it costs me about the same to study in NZ and Australia, I'll pick Australia.

Assuming I'd have gone on to study law, NZ would have been out of the question (too risky). I would prefer to have gone to one of the top UK unis - UCL, Nottingham etc... maybe even Cambridge (assuming they let me in ).

Thanks to NZ PR, I didn't even look at the other options (beyond a cursory "won't that be nice"). No regrets though, I've had good fun in NZ unis.

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Added on April 29, 2008, 8:18 amAgreed. Don't be one of those bond breakers.

This post has been edited by wornbook: Apr 29 2008, 08:18 AM

true2.. i experienced a lot of new things and more to come..

i'll keep that in mind..

Well well well, I got a lubang for you which is study Diploma in Tourism and you could half study half work in New Zealand.
This course is just new, and just offer for Malaysia student.
For more information, pm me

Why don't you just slightly explain here?
for example , like what school , how much it costs . hwo many years .

Hey , I heard it's very easy to cover the allowance by working part time there , is it true?
They even say that working part time there while studying , after few months or one year , you will be even able to send home money .



This post has been edited by Jia0924: May 8 2008, 04:27 AM

Minimun wage is $12.50, tax is almost 20%. International students are only allowed to work 20 hours per week, max. What do you think?

i got 16% applied for me.. i just work 10hours only on weekend bcoz packed class...

during holiday.. u can do full time if u want..

i need to earn money..

Even if you work full time every holiday, what are you chances of saving enough to send home? Fees are too high.

To earn enough to cover living expenses, yes. To save enough to send home is quite another thing.

owh.. true2..


me is another case..

so.. i just cover my meal, my funding to my dream stuff, my calling card etc. ...


but hey.. got my friend that doesnt work.. private.. international fees summore..
i bet his parent must be someone back in malaysia..
u know rite.. international fees are waaaaay higher than local fees..

This post has been edited by fantagero: May 8 2008, 08:52 AM

About 3 times higher but it varies.

Yep, for me, I worked to cover living expenses and some luxuries. My first 2 years were mainly paid for by my parents. After that, I managed to support myself completely through part-time work and summer jobs. It didn't hurt that I was a residential assistant for 2 years. Room+food+amenities (electricity, internet, Sky)= $85 per week. Later, it dropped to $60.

Fees were covered by loan. Paying it off now.