My nephew told me during their career fair in his uni the speaker asked who wants to work in gov, many raise hands, who wants to work in private sector , a few only
Why? I see it as a failure that such a huge ratio of students want to work with gov
Spend so much money for them to innovate etc , end up preferring gov admin jobs

Edit : I confused niece and nephew, thanks for pointing that out

This post has been edited by jfleong: Jul 5 2017, 03:04 PM

1.5 million goyang kaki

u bumi?

So apa masalah nya since there will be lot more sohai and more chance for others? U see our pemimpin.

- stability. Government can't bankrupt literally.
- benefit (low interest loan etc) & pencen
- career advancement & salary increment based on years of service
- hard to get fired

goyang kaki and songlap opportunity

but only for orang kita

your niece study where?

If can I also want apply gov job..

Stability : absolutely, that one I understand
Benefit : no need pay KWSP also got lifetime pencen, plus your children also get some money if you die before they turn 18 , I think this is unsustainable. But is really attractive benefit
The last 2 parts is what gets me angry. It seems like in their sector experience is everything,job performance not as important. Since you automatically get promoted after working X years, here is no incentive to work hard or be productive.
You never hear anyone kena fired unless it's something really bad. Come on time punch your card then can go minimum kopi all morning long and no problem won't kena fire

nanti 100% kata ini disunity
Nearlee

10 am can go for tea, 1 pm lunch, 3 pm afternoon tea, 5 pm balik

Friday afternoon can go for lunch 12pm til 2.45 only start work

This post has been edited by myasiahobby: Jul 5 2017, 10:53 AM

must be uitm.

ohwai.

Benefits lor

Because typical malay would just want to work on their 'comfort zone' and you know whats next. Just sayin'.

Coz dpt dipanggil Tuan.

benefit of working with government
- seniority benefit : the longer you work, the greater you earn
- promotion : frankly speaking, you can forget about it if you are non-muslim, it got nothing to do with racist but the culture is. You still can get promoted but the path will be super super difficult
- anything that related with banking like loans, you will be able to obtain it with the lowest interest rate you can ever imagine
- you don't need to be super hardworking, all you need is to blend in nicely into the circle of people and perform well for the office politic even if you work sucks, people will still back you up
- hardly you will get fired , almost impossible
- in chinese, we call it "eat snake", in malay we call it "curi tulang", these activity are one of the best activity working there

working with private?
- seniority? nah, nobody care, if you are capable, you can kick anyone you like
- promotion? the stronger you are, the faster you get
- banking benefit? no shit given, only those high interest loan awaiting you
- you don't have the privilege to eat snake as you will be busy all the time
- you will get fired easily if you do mistake, employer seeking for efficiency, not stupidity

now you know why so many people raising their hand --> government job?

bkos its our potek

As the chinese once said... Mangkuk yang x boleh pecah

Ore kito ngejah khijo.. so many cronism within government job.

long lost friend working for government
send agency car for tinted, free tinted for his car too
kursus proposal made by him all high keras hotel near beaches, every week bring family join kursus .profit..

because gov job = steel rice bowl

above ..... plus pension ....

i know of a teacher, a non .... i think one of the last non teachers .... teach until retired, didnt even get to becum pentadbir level ... now have pension almost 3k every month, her hubby, also a teacher, highest penolong kanan ... even higher pension every month ...

they are one of the last non master teachers with permanent employment with the gov .... nowadays, heard all the non teachers get yearly contracts and no benefits one

U heard means it's true? I got many non Malay permanent teachers je. DG41.

really?

i think nowadays if you do got jobs in gov sector, you will be offered KONTRAK position first.
after a few years, then if you are lucky, then you might get into TETAP & SAH JAWATAN post.

my friend who is a KONTRAK technician in an IPTA didn't get his contract renewed come this September. he has been working for about 8 years now. pity him.

contract staff gov are as the same as working in any private sector. easily gets sacked.

Set for life, life pension, boleh minum petang, byk kawan boleh tolong cover curi tulang

yaaa kontrak usually depends how, my fren contract under project mia got 4k offer for fresh graduate but cannot claim travel here and there. nasib baikk gaji masuk macam gov servant jugak. btw its yearly basis.

This post has been edited by THE CLASS OF 13: Jul 4 2017, 09:42 PM

But, but, there's a big L on ya forehead...

government job will always be available, there won't be head count frozen, the motive behind is simple. The worsen the government is, they need more man to vote for them, so who will be their man? it's obvious
statistically, the ratio of government servant servicing the people is too crazy, supposedly with this kind of ratio, our country should be as good as singapore but look what we have today?
quantity don't assured quality, its all about management

we can't blame the gov servant for their laziness because the environment train them this way. If you hardworking, your colleague will hate you, your team will ignore you and eventually abandon you. If you are too capable, you will be the shooting target or even get bully by trashing workload to you without credit given

so do you even dare to showcase your skill? you will end up become like them

This post has been edited by skylee18: Jul 4 2017, 09:44 PM

Buy house in Putrajaya can get up to 25% discount. Very attractive offer.

For low rank, they can buy PPA1M which is far away cheaper than PR1MA. The location also much more strategic.

The perks of not working outweights the perks of working when one is employed in gomen....all the goodies you secure when you retire n all. And its confirmed too.

Its totally opposite in private, where the more you put in work..the more you might be potentially rewarded , but its not confirmed. Might get nothing extra despite effort given.

No points for guessing correctly which sector nurture lazy humans .

This post has been edited by alanyuppie: Jul 4 2017, 11:05 PM

Ade ramai anak buah, some of them awek cun
Jangan jelly /k

that is the benefit lol

Nowadays very unlikely contract staff will get into permanent. Coz gov departments can no longer do direct intake. All must go thru spa. Means they still need to go interview n compete with the other hundreds n thousands of candidates.

no cable = contract

cable = instant permanent

All the students see Bijan as role model. The way towards huge donation is through public servant

what is your point? orang kito means?

you work with gov you can also be businessman

2 income

comfort plus got business

ftw

sbb boleh jadi scammer macam pulautikus

for me, my dream is to work with gomen bekos i want to pour all my blood sweat & tears to build a BetterNation

cooz actual wrking hour total only 2 hours per day

U can mengular easily

houses in Putrajaya is 15% more expensive
so nett price still like any other properties with developers rebate and discounts

good2...go work with gomen and i shall have more opportunity in private sector

bonus berbulan-bulan

Kerja government banyak allowance yoooo. Kerja private allowance macam pundek. Ot takde for exec. Sabtu kena kerja at least halfday.

attracted to Selangor gov office only..

2 months bonus woh..federal only RM500

Anyone here working as government servant?

here's why and will make the job u're currently working as is shit compared to government:

- stability. Government can't bankrupt literally.
- benefit (low interest loan etc) & pencen
- career advancement & salary increment based on years of service
- hard to get fired
- u can ular anytime. yes anytime without getting scolded or fired.

and the best of all, u can concentrate doing your business, second job or whatever hobbies that requires a lot of time due to no need to look busy and pleasing your boss when u're in the office.

beat that, private sector (especially chinaman company)

Back during my uni day, we were given job survey form during convo. those who already got job didn't fill the form. then like 2 weeks after convo I got telegram (yes, it was 20 years ago) asking me to go to PPUM (then Hospital Universiti) for interview for science officer post (didn't even apply for it). I got the telegram during the interview hour. Since I was still jobless that time I really need to go to this interview so I call them telling that I just got their telegram. They said 'you can come now, we are waiting for you". So went there after +-1 hour journey with the bus. They're still waiting. They called 5 candidates for interview. I was the second one and the last person that came that day. Since they offered 2 posts, 1 permanent and 1 contract, I got the contract 1. The basic salary at that time was RM1215. No wonder no one wants to apply government job. My friend works in sony for RM1800 (fresh grad). It wasn't until 2002 (if i not mistaken) the government increases salary so they become more attractive and competitive. since then people were interested in applying for government job.

Now fresh graduate can get minimum 3k yoo for government job. Private company minimum 1.8k for degree. Lul

only for bumi

Talk only. The moment you are in, become same like everyone. Imagine your group of friends invite u for breakfast, snake, tea break, etc. U reject, habislah. Become loner and no promotion

govt job for pemalas. The end.

PPl say work on GOV, break own leg also no problem, coz gov is taking care of u + goyang telor.

still depends on job scope
gov doctor work like no life
gov officer busy with useless agenda
gov support staff all byk ular

gov: job security, maybe relax work culture & pencen

private: higher salary & better bonus (but most not better than gov)

so conclusion unless u r a high grade employee in private sector...u life is shittier than gov workers..

Maybe during internship they gone thru both sectors and found out which one is better work life balance...

jom, lets work with gov