i dont know as much as you do.
f15 bombers? dont recall that either.
grodzny grad has been blown up in mg3.
it cant be other place because of the water and ice settings
when ray was seen. definitely in MGS1 base ( forgot the name of the place ady )

will raiden die? how can the other MG survived? they build more of them?
or just reconstruct it back?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T95tD3Cz9LA

where got know, i just play the main series OVER and OVER AGAIN!

and Naomi's line






uuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!

This post has been edited by snipersnake: Sep 21 2007, 09:05 PM

dude the link is broken.
up until now i dont know how to post youtube vids in lowyat

whaaaatt. the resurrection of big boss? sweeeeett..
how did they dispose big boss's body? they kept it?
i cant wait!^^ i wonder how long this game will last!

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Sep 21 2007, 07:37 PM

yer ker??arr!

tolong bg aku code nak post youtube..selalu jer kantul

wuhuu nice gameplay . tangan snake besar la pulak

lol, i've watched that trailer in HD over and over again
BROOTTHER!!

it's still(up to MGS1,anyway) kept by the government.
liquid wanted His body and 1 billion(or was it 10 bill?tak ingat) dollars to perfect the next generation special forces "formula"



or something like that..

why dont they clone using the big boss dna lolx.
is the "perfect soldiers" snake, liquid, solidus? the defective genes?

erm..snake and bros were cloned from BB's dna

it's the normal goons you fight that are not given the exact genes from BB...
which is why they are a little ineffective.

the perfect one was (according to liquid), SOLID snake.
BUT,according to Ocelot,LIQUID is the superior one.

i guess the reason(in the story) Liquid lost to Snake,was because Liquid allowed himself to be tied to his genes.
meaning, at the back of his mind,he always thought that Solid is the better clone.
whereas Solid Snake didnt allow himself to be tied to his genes,thus not giving a damn about whatever the hell his genes tell him.-just fight.

Liquid and Solid never knew of the existence of Solidus,so Liquid doesnt know who is the strongest among them three.

and Ocelot didnt say if Solidus was the most superior of the brothers,either.(ending of MGS)

which probably means Liquid is definitely the superior brother of all 3.

and now that Liquid has Ocelot's body AND mind,i guess he(liquid) now knows that he>solid on the genetic level

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Added on September 21, 2007, 11:42 pmforgot to add:
just saw the MGO trailer...this game is sweeeeet!!!

i can see why Payton says this game is a stand alone product-sure looks more in depth than most other online stealth games..

i guess we will hear all about the SOP system in MGS4,(not be able to use it)and be able to use it ourselves in MGO.

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Sep 21 2007, 11:42 PM

wah now less stealth?
direct battle.

wow impressive, you thought that yourself?
HOW did liquid get through Ocelot anyway. ( from the hand transplant i know )
before this they say that ocelot can control from
liquid taking over his body. but in the trailer seems
like it doesnt. so, liquid is the most superior.
but why they wanna still kept big boss when they can clone
them anyway? or they just wanna bring back BB.
is big boss on liquid's side? who's the bad guys here
i still havent got a clue about Outer Haven.

YEAH!! MGO Ownez! watched the trailer. kinda funny lol.
owh ya! Johnny! how'd he get into the team, thats what i wanna know.
doesnt seems to equipped with SOP either.
he's also a descendant from mgs series, right?

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Sep 21 2007, 11:51 PM

It was a world with only soldier and they got respect alot,Big Boss want this after The Boss was treat as a tool for gov dirty work.
After Big Boss died then Liquid continue his will for create Outer Heaven.

This post has been edited by Gahleon: Sep 21 2007, 11:53 PM

thanks for pointing that out bro.

so who's the bad guy?

owh just what err.. who that guy name.. err Python? ( mgspo.. with ESP ability.. warrgghh! forgot the name ady )
envisioned.
Snake does realized he's like a tool for the government also right?
"im no hero, never was"

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Sep 21 2007, 11:57 PM

In Mgspo that time Big Boss/Snale haven't think of create Outer Heaven yet i think,not sure since i haven't finish it yet.
The whole game was about why he turn "evil" later right?
I think the real bad guys was the gov or those who control over the gov which was " The Patriot"

This post has been edited by Gahleon: Sep 22 2007, 12:05 AM

sort of..
just put 2 and 2 together..but ofcourse,just speculation on my part..

in MGS2,when Liquid was just grafted onto Ocelot,Ocelot could still control him.
but i guess Ocelot's age/deteriorating body+Liquid's Big Boss DNA=Liquid>Ocelot in no time
Ocelot had The Boss(who was superior to Naked Snake),and The Sorrow's(who was a psychic who could communicate with the dead) genes,though..
i suppose Liquid being a direct clone of BB made him a little bit stronger than Ocelot who was not a clone,but a direct descendant of the two warriors.

huh?
tak faham
who is the "they" you are referring to?
the government?

big boss isnt shown to be alive-so maybe he does not make a return.
if he is,he could even be on EVA's side!
who knows?

mana tahu,while Solid and Liquid are sparring in their respective Gears, Snake sr arrives with his MG,and says "orite boys,here comes dadddyy!!!!" and pwns them both
and ending scene he and eva do another MGS3 ending



................ok,that's a little gross

what makes you say so?
any indication that he isnt injected with it?
other than the previous trailer where everyone except him falls to the ground

Liquid ocelot is definitely one of them.
and big mama too,i guess

the ESP character is the girl.. Elisa/Ursula

sort of..
he knows the government is just using him as a pawn,but he still does the job,cos he thinks it's partly his mess since he and Liquid are connected genetically

This post has been edited by Mgsrulz: Sep 22 2007, 12:15 AM

ok, that make sense. We DIDNT actually fight the sorrow, right?
what was he? a ghost? he's still with ocelot all the way trough?
Ocelot is a descendant from who?


what i meant, why they need BB body to make the perfect soldiers
when they can just clone em' using the dna.

lol, Naomi says "insurrection" not "resurrection"
misunderstood. its big mama to you
haa, reminds me of Big Mama in Who Wants to be a Superhero.

thanks mate, my sex hormones just fall downhill
ewww.. see, its stapled into my brain urrgghh.

during the FROGS invasion he's not in it.
all cooperate without him, and he seems to be left
out of the team because he's a rookie lol!.

nono, the guy with the "charisma" skills. what he envisioned.
a world only for soldiers. owh, ya make sense.
im sad that this is the last series. ;(

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Added on September 22, 2007, 12:35 amjust noticed that The New MG with the biotech limbs and such.
comes in different colours. kinda a bright green yellow-ish.

just like MG ray the marines edition and the modified one.
dont know lar, maybe its just me.

i watch this trailer gloriously on my tv. its awesomeee...
i can literally peed my self to death!

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: Sep 22 2007, 12:35 AM

yup,we didnt.
he was long dead by the time we entered that "dream"

yes. i dont think ocelot knows Sorrow is his dad.

the boss
the sorrow

both mate then keluar

ocelot


maybe because the clone's(liquid/snake) dna isnt strong enough.
so need to go back to the source of their genes.

yeah,but kojima=
plus big boss was shown together with everyone else in the sketch for MGS4



albeit naked


dont get what you mean..anyway,

dont worry..you got ample time to get them back...
bukannyer dah kawin pun..


but he claims to be a TEN YEAR VET!! ( )

GENE isnt a psychic,AFAIk.

it isnt.
MGS(or atleast MG) is far from over

camo?

never knew sorrow and boss were his parents.
now i know how that happened

owh ok.

whoa, really? checking it out.
where did you find this? checked MGS4 website
and gamespot. nothing.

its done over night

LOL! he fell for the safety trick
"hey! im not done yet!"

lol, salah orang

i've heard the same thing when mgs3 was released.
but yet again, he lied!

i think so, doesnt in the 1st trailer when snake shoots ( was hiding on top of him )
the MG it'll make the camo change sounds?.



OK new one,
dont you think Screaming Mantis was controlling all of the beasts?
was it Praying Mantis or Screaming? i heard this when Ed talks
to Meryl.

holy god, thats an awesome wallpaper.

the question is WHOS GONNA BE BIG POPPA ?

its obviously big boss