This is interesting. Got the video aa? Where can i download it?

LOL...mengimbau kenangan silam..!!

you can try looking in youtube..

i've never made a torrent before,so kalau silap,jangan flame,arr...
torrent

will seed till end of the week,i think

ha elok la tuh, ratio kau pon bapak teruk..hahah! after work let me give this a shot!

Heheheheh...lets try this.

Youtube got big file like this? Or u combined it together? I've tried searching for MGS3 European Extreme, only saw few short clips. The longer only about 10 minutes.

Anyway...thanks.

yeah,was shocked when i started downloading it!
anyway,have fun downloading

ps.ya,ratio teruk giler..apa yg aku download semua org lain dah download..

guys, just watched the vids over at youtube.
its awesome!

and back to the topic.
what i dont get is. in MGSPO big boss met Grayfox rite?
how come snake in MGS1 recognizes him as Gray Fox?

man, MGSTS makes me wee..

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: May 23 2007, 06:44 PM

because big boss recruited fox after that, and snake fought fox in zanzibar.

huh, izzint big boss who fought grayfox?
sorry. im too lost in this MGS universe. but very wanted to know
the story.

okay after MGSPO Big Boss recruited Gray Fox.
then how come his clone knew him?
during the t-rex battle gray fox said "you havent aged well"

since it is never fully explained in the games,i'd have to go with my own opinion
anyway,IMO, big boss met Frank Jaeger when Frank was a kid.(evidenced by the cut scenes after you beat Null in MGS PO)
and Snake saved Frank from being a child assassin,placed him(frank) in a rehab facility (evidenced by big boss saying "i thought you'd be safe in the rehab facility..i had no idea they subjected you to this).
from that research facility,Frank Jaeger,temporarily became Null.

after beating Null in MGSPO, Snake recruits Null,now back to Frank Jaeger, into his unit.
and im guessing the way Frank fights,the loyalty,the strength,etc made Big Boss choose him as his right hand man in MG.

and since Big Boss saved Frank before the incident in MGSPO, i guess Frank owed Big Boss a big debt of gratitude,and had no hesitation when Big Boss sought to use Metal Gear to bring the world to strife.

in MG(or prior to that) Frank Jaeger was given the codename Grey/Gray Fox.
whilst as Gray Fox,he came to know SOLID Snake.

as to whether he knows that Solid is a clone of Naked Snake,i dont know(he could've lost his memory when he was put in that exoskeleton in MGS)

so SOLID Snake,only knows Frank Jaeger by that name,and Gray Fox.but NOT as NULL,or "the perfect soldier"

they must've grown close due to the many missions they had to go through while under fox hound

*like i said earlier,i've never seen a fully fleshed out manual detailing every single history about the MGS characters,so most of the above are just speculation )

Big Boss fought NULL,not Gray Fox.
prior to their fight,Big Boss left Frank Jaeger to the rehab facility staff.

as for the "you look terrible Snake,you havent aged well.." statement, i guess since they knew each other when they were both young, Snake looked alot older than when Gray Fox last saw him

anyway,one thing i do know,is:
Naked Snake knows Gray Fox as
Frank Jaeger
NULL
Gray Fox

Naked Snake also knows that Frank Jaeger isnt gray Fox's real name.
evidenced by the cutscene in MGS PO where Big Boss says "he spoke alittle german,so his enemies called him Frank Jaeger...the Frank Hunter."

so now we know "frank Jaeger" isnt his REAL name,just given to him by his enemies

Solid Snake only knows Gray Fox as:
Frank jaeger


hope i didnt botch up any facts up there

Darn a bit of spoiler after reading that but kinda expected that coming. I was actually wondering if NULL = gray fox

Kojima should really consider remaking MG and MG2

oh shi- i thought most (if not all) MGS PO players know that bit already..

sorry for the spoilers

i hope he remakes them,too..but as it is right now,might be unlikely..

cos if MGS TTS is anything to go by,a major re haul would be necessary since 2d objects dont work very good in 3d plane

lol no harm no harm

This is what i love about MGS. the epic story that will leave deep impacts to the players.

okay now, ur confusing me.
izzint NULL = frank jeager = Gray Fox?
he put him in the rehab facility BEFORE mgspo?

okay, i got so many question to ask.
1. what is outer heaven?
2. what is the organization that big boss created? FOXHOUND?
3. big boss in MGS1 perspective is the bad guy?
4. i dont see any crucial point about Meryl.
5. does ocelot joins big boss?
6. how many clones are there?
7. why some of them falls intp the wrong hands? kidnapped ka?
8. too many.. help!

ocelot does hav huge impact on almost all the series rite?

yes.
they're the same fagbad ass

yes.
Big Boss put Frank in the rehab facility BEFORE the events of MGS PO.
im guessing it happened after MGS3,since Frank knows Naked Snake as Big Boss.

i'll let wikipedia handle this:


yes.
if you watch some of the older trailers for MGS PO,the japanese trailers, someone(since it's japanese,i have no idea who said it ) says to Big Boss something along the lines of "continue the establishment of FOX HOUND"

in MGS1/MGS TTS,Big Boss is long dead
but yeah,he was considered the bad guy in those games.

Snake's love interest.
the only reasons she was in the first game was:
1)"unintentional" love interest for Snake.
2)the government(IINM) made her go to Shadow Moses as a way to manipulate Campbell into helping with the mission,and bringing snake along.

dont know.
in the ending of MGS PO,he wanted Big Boss to join him and his unknown caller and be THE PATRIOTS

Liquid claimed 2
but we know Solidus was there,so there are at least 3.
there may be more...who knows?
im guessing Ocelot does

some,like Liquid were just jealous of Snake.
thinking Snake got all the warrior genes,and him(liquid) having all the flawed,recessive genes,he wanted to kill snake.

when in reality,according to ocelot,it was the other way around.
Snake was the inferior one.

HUGE.
if anything,HE'S the main character.
from MGS 3 till MGS 4 he is in.
from Big Boss's era till the end of Solid Snake HE(ocelot) has been there.

look back, huge ass spoilers.
[spoilers]
1. what is outer heaven?
Its a military country founded by Big Boss, using the patriot's money, given by Gene to Big Boss in MGSPO.

2. what is the organization that big boss created? FOXHOUND?
The specs ops unit after fox.

3. big boss in MGS1 perspective is the bad guy?
in mgs1, the terrorist lead by liquid snake demanded the govt to give big boss' remains to them.

4. i dont see any crucial point about Meryl.
Oh my, one little birdie tole me, she is going to be VERY VERY VERY IMPORTANT in mgs4.

5. does ocelot joins big boss?
Yup.of course he is a double agent for the patriots.

6. how many clones are there?
Solid Snake, Liquid Snake and Solidus Snake.Solidus snake even looked like big boss when he wore the eyepatch.


7. why some of them falls intp the wrong hands? kidnapped ka?
who??
8. too many.. help!
best to play all the mgs game to get the clear picture

i read many info about this game in now deceased webpage, the snakesoup.com

that page rocked.
[/spoilers]

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Added on May 24, 2007, 2:18 pmhttp://www.thesnakesoup.org/

oh thet are BACK!!!!!!!! YEEPA!

This post has been edited by snipersnake: May 24 2007, 02:18 PM

This post has been edited by MR.Shiney: May 24 2007, 10:39 PM

12 people if i remember correctly .. also known as the Wise Men Committee

the best word to describe the Patriots ... illuminati haha

mr shiney, if we have the answers to those questions, then MAJOR SPOILER la dude

illuminati? more to the BIG BROTHER

Damn..have to finish MGSPO la this school holiday.....