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TShonkkydorry
post Jun 28 2017, 11:06 AM, updated 9y ago

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Hi, I would like to find out is it possible to lay another layer of non slippery tiles for bathroom floor and not having to remove existing tiles below? My bathroom tile is the smooth type, hence gets slippery when it is wet. I had an accident recently when I was cleaning the bathroom so am thinking to add on another layer of rough tiles.

Any complications from this if it can be done and if let's say god forbid, my bathroom floor is causing leakages for unit downstairs. Please advise.
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post Jun 28 2017, 11:10 AM

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I saw a type of plastic perforated (read; with holes) mat used in some public bathrooms. Maybe you can try those. I believe you can find them in either hardware stores or hypermarket like JUSCO... hope this helps... smile.gif
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post Jun 28 2017, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(kuntilanak @ Jun 28 2017, 11:10 AM)
I saw a type of plastic perforated (read; with holes) mat used in some public bathrooms. Maybe you can try those. I believe you can find them in either hardware stores or hypermarket like JUSCO... hope this helps... smile.gif
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Please no. Used them before. Dirt/hair trap + cockroach breeding ground.

Use non slip paint layer instead.
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post Jun 28 2017, 11:18 AM

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Laying another layer of tile above the current ones is fine. Infact that's the preferable solution saving cost on hacking of old tiles. Just make sure water proofing is done properly so avoid stagnating water below your new tiles...
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post Jun 28 2017, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jun 28 2017, 11:17 AM)
Please no. Used them before. Dirt/hair trap + cockroach breeding ground.

Use non slip paint layer instead.
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Agree on this... it geys VERY yucky with molds etc growing under it unless u wash it religiously (and I mean removing it to scrubs etc not just washign the top part).
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post Jun 28 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 28 2017, 11:19 AM)
Agree on this... it geys VERY yucky with molds etc growing under it unless u wash it religiously (and I mean removing it to scrubs etc not just washign the top part).
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agree.

you can get the non slip treatment in most hardware store. if cannot find, go ace/homepro
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post Jun 28 2017, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(frossonice @ Jun 28 2017, 11:17 AM)
Please no. Used them before. Dirt/hair trap + cockroach breeding ground.

Use non slip paint layer instead.
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QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 28 2017, 11:19 AM)
Agree on this... it geys VERY yucky with molds etc growing under it unless u wash it religiously (and I mean removing it to scrubs etc not just washign the top part).
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oops... didn't think of the cleaning part... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jun 28 2017, 11:26 AM

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kasi coating.... eg... www.enmulticoat.com.my

btw... me no associate with the co above..
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post Jun 28 2017, 11:58 AM

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Thanks all for your feedback. Yeah, I prefer not to use those mat because that requires constant cleaning but for short term solution, I suppose should be alright.


QUOTE(MeToo @ Jun 28 2017, 11:18 AM)
Laying another layer of tile above the current ones is fine. Infact that's the preferable solution saving cost on hacking of old tiles. Just make sure water proofing is done properly so avoid stagnating water below your new tiles...
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Glad to know that this is possible without hacking of existing tiles.

QUOTE(fireballs @ Jun 28 2017, 11:22 AM)
agree.

you can get the non slip treatment in most hardware store. if cannot find, go ace/homepro
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What non slip treatment is this..something to paint over the tiles?

QUOTE(ultramann @ Jun 28 2017, 11:26 AM)
kasi coating.... eg... www.enmulticoat.com.my

btw... me no associate with the co above..
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I just checked the website, this does look like a possible solution. Would you have any idea whether the cost would be lower than laying a layer of tiles instead?
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post Jun 28 2017, 12:15 PM

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i did 2 toilet 2-3 years ago... about 700 each if i remember correctly... guess better call them for latest pricing..

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post Jun 28 2017, 12:19 PM

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the spray coat is cheaper. however, maybe last 6 month then have to re-apply.
i remember its quite cheap
[url=http://www.pyeproducts.com/prodetails.php?http://www.youbeli.com/pye-colourless-anti-slip-floor-coating-p-733043.html

http://www.youbeli.com/pye-colourless-anti...g-p-733043.html


rm140 for 500ml

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bmcoating
post Jun 28 2017, 12:32 PM

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Hello @honkkydorry ,

We do have a type of anti slip coating that can be applied directly on tiles with normal roller. Colour and roughness can be adjusted as well. Can last at least 5 years.

It is called tile coat.

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post Jun 28 2017, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(bmcoating @ Jun 28 2017, 12:32 PM)
Hello @honkkydorry ,

We do have a type of anti slip coating that can be applied directly on tiles with normal roller. Colour and roughness can be adjusted as well. Can last at least 5 years.

It is called tile coat.

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I have some inquiries which I am sure others might be interested to know as well.

1. Is a layer of waterproofing needed before coating is done?
2. How long does the process takes and how long is curing?
3. Is it easy to wash bathroom floor with this coating?
4. How many layer of coating is done for each area?
5. Will the surface becomes as slippery as smooth tiles when the 5 years duration is up or will there still be some grip left?
6. Do you charge for consultation only?
7. Coating price - how do you charge? (you can PM price if you don't wish to reveal here)

Thank you.
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QUOTE(ultramann @ Jun 28 2017, 12:15 PM)
i did 2 toilet 2-3 years ago... about 700 each if i remember correctly... guess better call them for latest pricing..
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Thanks, I have contacted them for inquiries and quotation.
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post Jun 28 2017, 01:32 PM

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There is also a sticker antislip stick to the tile. You probably see it before in some bathtub that have antislip stick on it.
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post Jun 28 2017, 02:56 PM

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Is there a good reason why you can't just lay cement on the old tiles and lay the new tiles on top of them?
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post Jun 28 2017, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 28 2017, 02:56 PM)
Is there a good reason why you can't just lay cement on the old tiles and lay the new tiles on top of them?
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If it is more cost effective to go with tiles, then I might consider that instead. The epoxy coating looks kind of cool though biggrin.gif but I need to know what type of maintenance is required for long lasting.
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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jun 28 2017, 03:15 PM)
If it is more cost effective to go with tiles, then I might consider that instead.  The epoxy coating looks kind of cool though  biggrin.gif  but I need to know what type of maintenance is required for long lasting.
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I'm not an engineer, so I don't know if there's some reason why people don't just cement over the old tiles and stick the new ones on top.
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post Jun 28 2017, 03:17 PM

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problem with re-tiling direct on top of existing tile
the height is increased, so check your water flow. will it flow out of bathroom?

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post Jun 28 2017, 03:18 PM

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QUOTE(fireballs @ Jun 28 2017, 03:17 PM)
problem with re-tiling direct on top of existing tile
the height is increased, so check your water flow. will it flow out of bathroom?
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Build the toilet door barrier a little higher then? you can retile that as well?

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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jun 28 2017, 12:56 PM)
I have some inquiries which I am sure others might be interested to know as well.

1. Is a layer of waterproofing needed before coating is done?
2. How long does the process takes and how long is curing?
3. Is it easy to wash bathroom floor with this coating?
4. How many layer of coating is done for each area?
5. Will the surface becomes as slippery as smooth tiles when the 5 years duration is up or will there still be some grip left?
6. Do you charge for consultation only?
7. Coating price - how do you charge? (you can PM price if you don't wish to reveal here)

Thank you.
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1. Not needed.
2. Just use a roller and directly apply on clean and dry tile surface.
3. Easier to wash than tiles.
4. 2 layers is recommended.
5. Wear and tear we cannot guarantee, however it should not become slippery as it is silica based. If it wears up you may just lay another layer.
6. Nope. Consultation is free rclxms.gif
7. Pricing is almost RM1.00 / sqft (Material Price)
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post Jun 28 2017, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(wodenus @ Jun 28 2017, 03:18 PM)
Build the toilet door barrier a little higher then? you can retile that as well?
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This is not possible as the next room is the bedroom. I will have to increase the height of the bedroom floor tiles then if I were to make the toilet tile barrier higher.
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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jun 28 2017, 03:46 PM)
This is not possible as the next room is the bedroom. I will have to increase the height of the bedroom floor tiles then if I were to make the toilet tile barrier higher.
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I see what you mean.
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post Jun 28 2017, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(bmcoating @ Jun 28 2017, 03:19 PM)
1. Not needed.
2. Just use a roller and directly apply on clean and dry tile surface.
3. Easier to wash than tiles.
4. 2 layers is recommended.
5. Wear and tear we cannot guarantee, however it should not become slippery as it is silica based. If it wears up you may just lay another layer.
6. Nope. Consultation is free  rclxms.gif
7. Pricing is almost RM1.00 / sqft (Material Price)
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Will the coating get mouldy easily from hot air moisture?
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post Jun 29 2017, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jun 28 2017, 05:25 PM)
Will the coating get mouldy easily from hot air moisture?
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It is relatively fungus resistant.
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post Jun 29 2017, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(bmcoating @ Jun 28 2017, 03:19 PM)
1. Not needed.
2. Just use a roller and directly apply on clean and dry tile surface.
3. Easier to wash than tiles.
4. 2 layers is recommended.
5. Wear and tear we cannot guarantee, however it should not become slippery as it is silica based. If it wears up you may just lay another layer.
6. Nope. Consultation is free  rclxms.gif
7. Pricing is almost RM1.00 / sqft (Material Price)
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Does it require a full day to apply this coating? And how is your tile coating differs from the other that the TS mentioned....epoxy flake coating? Do you have any sample photos of projects done?

Thanks.
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post Jun 29 2017, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(audy @ Jun 29 2017, 09:59 AM)
Does it require a full day to apply this coating? And how is your tile coating differs from the other that the TS mentioned....epoxy flake coating?  Do you have any sample photos of projects done?

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Yes a full day is needed to be fully cured. We also have the flakes coating as well if you want.
Most importantly, you can DIY yourself.

This is one of the sample in our showroom.
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QUOTE(bmcoating @ Jun 29 2017, 11:10 AM)
Yes a full day is needed to be fully cured. We also have the flakes coating as well if you want.
Most importantly, you can DIY yourself.

This is one of the sample in our showroom.
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What is the difference between tile coating and flakes coating? Kindly share.

I might be keen to go for either one but definitely not DIY. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(audy @ Jun 29 2017, 12:54 PM)
What is the difference between tile coating and flakes coating? Kindly share.

I might be keen to go for either one but definitely not DIY.  biggrin.gif
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I am interested to know as well the difference. Which is better?
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QUOTE(audy @ Jun 29 2017, 12:54 PM)
What is the difference between tile coating and flakes coating? Kindly share.

I might be keen to go for either one but definitely not DIY.  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jun 29 2017, 12:56 PM)
I am interested to know as well the difference. Which is better?
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Flakes is definitely better as it can provide smooth surface (covers groove lines). However it need a primer, then flakes, then a last clear coat to seal it up. It will be more expensive and thicker, but the aesthetic look is very nice.

Tile coat however, is easy to apply, just using a conventional roller is enough. The groove lines however, need to be filled using putty to provide a smooth surface.
It is cheaper as well and maintainance is relatively easy.


Regarding waterproofing performance, we recommend to lay a layer of cementituous waterproofing as base to enhance waterproofing properties.


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post Jun 30 2017, 10:08 AM

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QUOTE(bmcoating @ Jun 29 2017, 03:25 PM)
Flakes is definitely better as it can provide smooth surface (covers groove lines). However it need a primer, then flakes, then a last clear coat to seal it up. It will be more expensive and thicker, but the aesthetic look is very nice.

Tile coat however, is easy to apply, just using a conventional roller is enough. The groove lines however, need to be filled using putty to provide a smooth surface.
It is cheaper as well and maintainance is relatively easy.
Regarding waterproofing performance, we recommend to lay a layer of cementituous waterproofing as base to enhance waterproofing properties.
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Hi, I am having waterproofing failure on both my flat roof balcony. Currently the floors are tiled, we did use some coating previously but it only lasted for 4 - 5 months before the problem recur again.

In this case, is the best method to hack and remove all the tiles, then do the waterproofing? or can your coating help? It is an open balcony exposed to fully to the weather.
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QUOTE(dayalan86 @ Jun 30 2017, 10:08 AM)
Hi, I am having waterproofing failure on both my flat roof balcony. Currently the floors are tiled, we did use some coating previously but it only lasted for 4 - 5 months before the problem recur again.

In this case, is the best method to hack and remove all the tiles, then do the waterproofing? or can your coating help? It is an open balcony exposed to fully to the weather.
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Yes we do have the solution. One of the easiest way doing it is to lay cementitious waterproofing as base then top coated with any type of coating or material (eg: clear coat, tile coat, tiles, etc).

It should last for at least 2 years as we provide 2 years material warranty.

The best thing is you can do it yourself.

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post Jun 30 2017, 10:19 AM

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Just change the non-slip tiles......cost is very cheap ! Less than 1k, which exchange your family safety.
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post Jun 30 2017, 10:33 PM

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QUOTE(HonMun @ Jun 30 2017, 10:19 AM)
Just change the non-slip tiles......cost is very cheap ! Less than 1k, which exchange your family safety.
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After scrolling for 2 pages finally I see a sensible answer.
Hacking the tiles + redo waterproofing then re-tile is the best solution. It is your house and your family safety, don't rely on patchworks.
Toilet is not very huge, so it is wise to invest better tiles (homogeneous/technical porcelain) with anti-slip feature and to your preference, some structured surface (texture, not pattern). Check with the tile supplier and make sure you get their warranty letter, or better yet if they can do supply + install.
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QUOTE(2387581 @ Jun 30 2017, 10:33 PM)
After scrolling for 2 pages finally I see a sensible answer.
Hacking the tiles + redo waterproofing then re-tile is the best solution. It is your house and your family safety, don't rely on patchworks.
Toilet is not very huge, so it is wise to invest better tiles (homogeneous/technical porcelain) with anti-slip feature and to your preference, some structured surface (texture, not pattern). Check with the tile supplier and make sure you get their warranty letter, or better yet if they can do supply + install.
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A contractor told me there is a risk with hacking existing bathroom tiles. If not done properly by the worker especially water proofing, it might cause future leaking problem to unit below. Then additional cost is needed to rectify the problem if this happens. That is my concern.

 

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