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TSmyremi
post Apr 17 2007, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(seen @ Apr 17 2007, 05:03 PM)
It's also good for holy priests. VERY useful in long boss fights. But I'm confused as to why he wants +shadow spell dmg AND spi...instead of +int which I "think" should be more relevant if you're aiming to do dmg and not so much on healing.
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Spi : I have to dig out the post about the 5 second rule. The idea is that if a priest is out of the 5 second rule often, should go for spirit. If not, stack up the MP5 because the mana regen from Spi only comes 5 seconds after you've casted a spell. In fact, most priests for endgame stack up MP5. And yes, that's for Holy Priest as well I think. Have to check out the holy tree again for any talents that influence spirit.

+Shadow spell dmg for shadow priest reckon. I didn't specifically look for shadow spell dmg coz those gear are fairly rare to find and they are green items mostly. The easy to find ones that is. Most times, it's easier to just go for +spell damage and +spell crit (although careful with this one in case of pulling aggro).


Added on April 17, 2007, 5:25 pmYeah, Meditation does help. But she was asking on Spi so I answered in Spi. tongue.gif

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post Apr 17 2007, 08:10 PM

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VT gives back low mana. Kinda regretted speccing for it but since I'm respeccing once I hit lvl70, i'm not taking it out.

There's actually a lot of shadow priest running around now. The DPS is fun. happy.gif

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rZfhtccMqVzZeGMzMtR
Something I'm thinking about. I'm not sure about how good the build is for raids or instancing but there have been various circumstances that lightwell is starting to get interesting. And VE is just great as passive healing if the tanks aren't taking too great a damage. I saw a few priest with this hybrid a couple of times. Just not sure how the mana generation is like though, without the discipline talents.


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post Apr 18 2007, 12:30 AM

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Qua : I did say thinking. tongue.gif

Heemee : blink.gif Nice numbers. I haven't reach Lvl70 yet so not sure how much more I can push VT numbers. So far, I'm able to mainheal in Coilfang - staying out of shadowform to do it though. Sometimes, OOM but not much.

Emperor Tau : Other than talents, there's also getting separate gearsets for DPS and Healing. I'm using a mod named ItemRack to switch out quickly. Others have used Outfitter. Hmmm...and looks like ItemRack got updated recently.

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post Apr 18 2007, 06:57 AM

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 18 2007, 01:10 AM)
YARR PVE DPS

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=rVMhkhxZZxGxzMxRhtVo

edit: messed up talent build first time round.  This is on the basis since most of our damage comes from dots and instants MF, VT, SW:P - mana efficiency and regen and obligatory aggro reduction talents.  I don't value crit at all as a shadow priest - who want's the mind blasts to crit anyway?
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Hmmm...when leveling, I used to start the fight with Mind Blasts. But since getting VT to try out, I've been using that instead. With VT, by the time the mob is dead, I still have about 60-75% of my mana still up.

And I don't use Mind Blasts anymore unless it's for mobs with low health e.g. Imps, Green Eye. And I avoid it in instance runs coz it pulls too much aggro away from the tank and I have problems managing my aggro then. Although, sometimes, I do the mob pulling with SW:P or Silence and then Fade + Bubble for the tank to pick them up.
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post Apr 18 2007, 09:29 AM

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QUOTE(seen @ Apr 18 2007, 08:43 AM)
Aye, mind blasts are aggro b****es. If I were you, I'd bubble first before silencing the mob for pulling. Silence and Shield are also an aggro b****es.


Atm, the pre70 instances, I can still fade out of Silence. Even with Shielding after the Silence pull. But my luck may run out at lvl70 instances. ><

My runs with Shadow Priests through the 2nd room of SL has been terrible. Somehow, their MC gets resisted a lot and when the MT/OT cannot tank multiple mobs well, it's a slaughter house. Probably need to go full points into Shadow Focus to see if that helps.

QUOTE(seen @ Apr 18 2007, 08:43 AM)

Ahhh... it's been sooooooo long since I lvl my priest. Maybe I should go back to my old server once in a while to lvl her up. I can't remember much on how to lvl a priest but all I remember is that wanding + renew was my friend.
PreBC leveling for my Holy priest was Holy Fire, Mind Blast, SW:P. Didn't like Smite much. And a lot of pot drinking. sad.gif

QUOTE(seen @ Apr 18 2007, 08:43 AM)
I tend to agree with Heemee on VT (although I have to admit I've never had it before). Besides, if you're desperately trying to justify staying a shadow priest, I would think this 41 talent should be one of your ace cards. Just my 2c.
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I went to d/l an addon to see how much mana VT actually gives back. I'm actually thinking of staying Shadow even though my previous goal was to change to Holy Spec at 70. The pew-pew-pew-ness is getting to me too.
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post Apr 18 2007, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(seen @ Apr 18 2007, 09:51 AM)
Hmm, I didn't really drink mana pots a lot while lvling as a holy priest back then. Just drank a lot of water after battles. Shield and MB are actually mana inneficient, especially shield. I usually holy fire first, then pain, then renew and wand. Heal when at half hp and renew pain whenever it finishes. Hardly need to drink any pot.

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QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 18 2007, 10:11 AM)
My personal grinding spec at level 68 now.  Seriously, I can't remember the last time I had to sit down and drink.  Standard pull - VT, SW:P, Flay, Fear Rank 1, Flay, wand, Spirit tap! Rinse and repeat.  Mobs seem to go down between 10-15 secs and i hardly get any down time.
I should really change what I type. Ok, meant drinking water rather than drinking pots. Never use pots during leveling. Using the same tactic as Kidicarus except the Fear. When I'm surrounded by too many mobs, never sure where that mob will run too, even if I did pull it far.


QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 18 2007, 10:11 AM)
To see how much mana VT Actually gives back, scrolling combat text.  Your screen will be filled with a wall of text.


SCT gives it per tick. I went to d/l VampWatch just to see what was my current total now and compare it later when I hit 70.

QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 18 2007, 10:11 AM)
The irony about my priest is I made my warrior so i could grind/farm for my holy priest, but now it's my shadow priest farming for my prot warrior  sad.gif


Mind is farming for my resto druid. Seriously damn gimp.

QUOTE(Kidicarus @ Apr 18 2007, 10:11 AM)
Edit: MC breaking is also affected by your +hit% with spells.  Everyone learned this on the razuvious in Naxxramas, that by stacking +4% hit you would reduce the chance of MC breaking on every tick to nearly 0%.
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Hmm...how much +spell hit % do you currently have at lvl 68? I'm pretty sure that most of the Shadow Priest I've run with had hit the 4% limit for MC. Although, have not been to Naxx at all. But having gone thru Shadow Labs and Shattered Halls, it wasn't a pretty sight.

I've seen the priest using MC while the mob is running to us and not as a first pull. Reason is that the aggro from the MC now aggroes the next group of mobs in both SL and SH. Anyone got better ideas?

QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 18 2007, 10:34 AM)
read the memo folks, mindblast no longer have x2 threat on them.
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Pre-BC days? Coz I don't see it in any of the post-2.0 patch notes for Priest. If anything, it's probably gotten worst because Silent Resolve now no longer reduces threat on Shadow Spells. sad.gif

QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 18 2007, 11:00 AM)
drink coffee la, why priest again.. go read more b4 u post since u do not have the experiance with a shadow priest in raid b4.


Added on April 18, 2007, 11:00 amnot apply to the poster above me.
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Errr, G, then who wor? blink.gif
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post Apr 18 2007, 12:55 PM

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someone go into blaze city tonite and make sure Gladys puts in her application to GameAxis.
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post Apr 18 2007, 01:27 PM

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procrastinator = Gladys. tongue.gif Faster lah girl.
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post Apr 18 2007, 05:31 PM

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we will know if anyone (including her) post about it in the next few days. happy.gif
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post Apr 19 2007, 10:11 AM

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QUOTE(Emperor Tau @ Apr 19 2007, 09:46 AM)
suddenly so quiet....
newspaper show PotC3 showing on 24th May, a month's time. . .
anything interesting that is happening at work?
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still very early in the morning lah. work comes first else how to pay to play WoW. tongue.gif


Added on April 19, 2007, 2:13 pmgladys oh gladys, submit application or not ah? report!

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post Apr 20 2007, 10:38 AM

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it's only quiet coz Gladys wasn't posting yesterday. sad.gif

ah well. we can start planning the meet again. are there any interesting-concept coffee places in 1 Utama? haven't been to KL in the last 3 years so haven't any idea what's it like anymore.

Hmmm... unless there is an ice-cream parlor around somewhere in there?
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post Apr 20 2007, 01:24 PM

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QUOTE(Emperor Tau @ Apr 20 2007, 12:02 PM)
ahhh...
i normally let shit fester a while, most of the time they dissolve away, only once in a while that shit become even bigger shit
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so are you trying to conclude that at the end of the day, you're full of shit? being a source of shit, which looks like it's starting to be a bigger shit. smile.gif

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sorry. i just couldn't resist posting. sweat.gif
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seen, gladys, u guys on tonite on thaurissen?
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post Apr 20 2007, 05:41 PM

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lol! late nite haircut. errm...me last August. but i kinda miss having waistlength hair. sad.gif
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post Apr 21 2007, 10:51 AM

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press K to go to your Skill page. click on the skill. then look at the lower half on the screen. on top right, u'll see a little red slash circle? click on that.


Added on April 21, 2007, 10:51 amkidi / qua : it's my blanket tongue.gif

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no problem.
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post Apr 23 2007, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 23 2007, 10:16 AM)
tonite on thau  malaysia time 1.00pm? or 7.00pm.
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probably 7 pm.
still working at 1 pm lah.

went in the last few nights between 9 pm and 12 am. guess u and seen sleeping already. sad.gif

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post Apr 23 2007, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(seen @ Apr 23 2007, 10:59 AM)
myremi umm actually i only logged on around 12 on friday... I accidentally "ter-slept" ... so tired of this company. Anyway, did you know that I've killed my Nagini (palladin) and now playing Brood (warlock)?
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haha! no worries. I think it was after 12 am I log on on Friday. Did ask where is seen but semua orang diam. hee hee! Pop in again around 10:30 pm.

And yeah, didn't know. The last time I spoke to u were when u were playing Nagini and that was like a month back.


Added on April 23, 2007, 11:25 am
QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 23 2007, 11:19 AM)
1am sry.... pm ima working still... doh.gif

btw which area @ PJ having good connection streamyx - wow ?

my house sunway now got crappy line... 1k - 6k ms usually..  need to shift house as well find a good line place at the same time... tender's sistser wanna move in..i gotta go QQ..
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damansara? or more to new residential area where got fibre optic line? brows.gif

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post Apr 23 2007, 01:45 PM

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QUOTE(Gladys @ Apr 23 2007, 12:05 PM)
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
she is warlock... wat class are u playng? druid again ?
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Nope. Went shadow priest but I think still only level 8. Then put aside for one month. sad.gif

Thinking maybe should go back to being a druid if I wanna go into healing mode. The cast-time for priest healing spells are too long, not used to it.

Or try pally. But no fun leveling alone. sad.gif

BTW, your application how ah? Last time I will ask, promise. icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Apr 23 2007, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Apr 23 2007, 01:54 PM)
some kinda stupid? if healing spells cast time too long, priest would definately be the class, not druids.
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nah, not stupid. more like tak biasa playing a priest. a lvl 66 priest doesn't have Prayer of Mending yet so have to wait and see what happens at lvl 68 when i do get it. i'm also a shadow priest main healing instances - doh.gif

i tend to stay in Treeform so more mana efficient and i end up using rejuv / regrowth + swiftmend. seldom use HT unless it's for specific bosses that does a lot of damage. even then, still using rejuv to ease out the damage a bit, especially if warrior/druid doesn't have enough defense to be uncritable. or out of ToL when need to Decurse/Remove Poison. seldom use HT for instances.

as for raiding, already mention lah, i'm a raid noob. never got the chance to main heal. just offhealing in 25 man. now main healing in 10 man, nervous. ohmy.gif

only problem now : swiftmend generating threat . doh.gif have to wait for patch lor. until then, i'm occasionally tanking in tree form. tongue.gif

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