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jett138
post May 11 2021, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(yushin @ May 11 2021, 07:50 PM)
Take the btc and buy whatever shitcoins that has a dog logo...  cool2.gif
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Back in 2018 there is no covid lock down to propel crypto growth, no chip shortage as bad as now. You can still buy gpu when you got money. Now got money also no stock lol. ASICS is always the latest and most efficient ones, even ASICS also delayed delivery.

We are in a very special time, of course old rigs needed to be disposed so you can get the latest ones.

Just buy new ones while selling the old ones every month.
Can make money also from trading hardware lol.
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post May 12 2021, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(greyshadow @ May 12 2021, 03:59 PM)
am still paying for my new 3060Ti rig, full time mining for this one, plus part time mining for my old 5700XT
averaging usd20 per day based on the current bull market rate
expecting another 2 or 3 months for the ROI if the current bull runs continues

not sure if I should stretch my budget for a 3090
worried about its overheat issue also hmm.gif

or should I spend another 5K for another 3060Ti hmm.gif
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Check your settings again. I think your setup at current market is about 22 to 24 usd.

Overheat issues just stay away from msi and gigabyte, the rest should be OK. Or just diy and upgrade all thermal pads and grease by yourself. I just placed order for cmp 90hx and expected to receive in 3 to 4 weeks, damage is about 12k/ card.

3090 would be a good bet compared to cmp. 5k If can score for a 3070 is better than a 3060ti, although I did promote to get 3060ti before lol. I only keep 8 pcs of 3060ti and sold most of my stash out alrd.

I find 3070 better in efficiency and oc for mining. 99w for 58mh/s. Cincai make also avrg on 54.5% efficiency, comparable to 5700xt of 90w for 55mh/s and better resale value or gaming purposes.


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post May 12 2021, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(UserU @ May 12 2021, 07:04 PM)
Imagine farming 1 Chia, ROI liao. Thats assuming using consumer-level SSD, although failure rate is higher.
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Idk bro, you actually need a lot of ram for chia and the raid support you can get. Not to mention get unbreakable ssds.

Consumer grade is like Russian roulette.
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post May 13 2021, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(UserU @ May 13 2021, 12:18 AM)
My system runs on 16GB, so I guess the RAM issue is not an issue.

I read the news about that but I'll just give it a shot. Already prepared to take the risk wink.gif
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can read a little on bitfield and using ram as virtual memory to plot, good hardware avrg on 4 hrs +- under 5 hours per plot and consumer grade estimated about 9 to 12 hrs, provided your machine is holding up.
good cpu required so you can parallel plot as much as possible. later farming state just use shoe rack and put all hdd there like gpu mining or you can use Jbod or nas depending on you.

Additionally if you can read Chinese, go lookup more resources there. They even utilize gpu to help to boost in speed for plotting, ssd killer is just some initial trial and error thing.

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post May 13 2021, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 12 2021, 08:56 PM)
What's your setting for 5700XT at 90W for 55mh/s? You using HIVE for it?
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Red bios editor and more power tool, all diy. didnt manage to use hive on my 5700xts' sold them all for nvidia 30 series.
Cant help you much since i didnt keep copy, bunch of resources online though.

But good performing ones all running under water block la, vram temp is lower compared to air cooled.
Air cool always has temp issues, changing the thermal pads and grease every 3 months.
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post May 13 2021, 05:32 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 13 2021, 01:25 PM)
I saw you mentioned not to buy gigabyte. Just built 10 rigs with them. Really run hotter but with aircon they are running below 60. Powercolor can run below 60 without aircon. Should learn more from you haha. What's the best card for nvidia 3080 in terms of cooling?
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3080
gigabyte, pny, inno <-- these 3 runs hot. can solve needed more attention to them only. my cards mainly doing 40 to 54 range in ac, non ac max 57( all across the board from 60ti,70,80,90) dispose all team red alrd. team red only 49 max under water still 4C higher than nvidia under water.
Bykski if buy bulk from them is really cheap +- within 200 per block with back plate. use the barrow twin rad outside setup also another 1k +- depending how you nego and upgrade the rad to hardwarelabs. upgrade to water cool is only another rm2600+- worth it la. looking at current price we estimate to score Rm20k profit. 13% from profit. assuming you already ROI. when first launch 3080 only 3 to 4k a card better ones like aorus xtreme, rog strix only like 5k.


looking at current condition just grab whatever you can, they updated the chipset, no longer Ga102 because pushing cmp cards. build whichever you feel like building.
I am making a shift from gpu to asics for eth. 80% efficiency, cannot say no to this lol. assuming you getting at special prices 8x 3080 also within RM60k per rig scoring at least 1 pallet.

assuming 720mh/s for 8 gpu and consuming 1680w +- compared to 2gh 2500w.
asics can put more per sqft. easier to manage say 100+ rigs and above, how you want to manage and adjust accordingly to your strategy.
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post May 13 2021, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(soket @ May 13 2021, 05:59 PM)
anyone using nicehash, is the location affect the mining performance? nicehash does not have any asia server
Following locations are possible:

Europe (Belgium): 0,
USA (California): 1,
Europe (Finland): 2,
USA (Virginia): 3.
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Yes europe and US pays differently, if not mistaken europe by day, us by night can score more. but mining at nicehash is losing some margin.
if based on cards 20 cards difference is about usd30 a day compared to eth pool. the more rigs you have higher the number it is, same goes with sha and other algorithms.
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post May 14 2021, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 14 2021, 01:37 AM)
How long before asic arrives? How many you getting? got good pricing?
You can do 3080 within 60k? mind sharing source?
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I dont know how many th/s of eth you are running and your capacity, if i share with you is like i am fueling my competitor tongue.gif
Maybe when my 2nd phase is ready i can share, but it will take sometime as we are procuring renewable energy facilities around asean for this purpose.

in the meanwhile if you are serious enough can really go and buy CMP 90hx as they are GA102 w/o dp, they give really good pricing if you are not buying through local distribution channel. got to commit to volume only.
so far local distributors will sell you about 12k +- / pc. delivery about 3 to 4 weeks.

Inno 11 and new bit main will take at least 8 to 9 weeks for delivery, a10 pro is available everywhere.
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post May 14 2021, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 14 2021, 06:14 PM)
Are you DL? hahaha

Asics are abit of gambling now due to uncertainty.
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whats DL ?

well worth to gamble if your monthly profits are not for 'ROI' pure profits, i believe with the rigs you have maybe already 20gh/s and above ? so monthly 45k usd can buy asic still left with balance to fund other asset classes and contracts.

QUOTE(yushin @ May 14 2021, 06:16 PM)
When will the merge really happen that is when we say bye bye to eth mining.
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By the time we say bye bye, already made enough profit from hardware and channel the computational power else where.
there is very very wide use for high powered GPUS, 3070 is actually quite good for a number of usages. not to mention your 3080, 3090's

cant comment on cmp until i receive my stock to run various test and real usage benchmarks on them. maybe need to invest on some hardware upgrade because cant run on 4x speed risers, and will burn lol.
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post May 15 2021, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(revolution @ May 15 2021, 01:30 AM)
Hi All Experts, may i ask should i go with 3060 or 3060ti? which can last longer? 8gb or 12gb? which more worth?

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3060 if you know how to get it work for eth, 3060ti if you dont know how to get it work.
3060ti is basically a 3070, since its the same ga104, only less cuda cores. not so pleasing for playing games or visual, as a work steed its fine.

QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 15 2021, 11:44 AM)
Someone who is also looking into this space and is building a huge mining business out of it.

Problem with using ASIC is after POS what should I do with it? They are hard coded unless there is a way to recode them
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It started as a hobby, now it became a side hustle since it resonates well with my other sides of main businesses. Other services revolving mining is making more stable profits, requires even bigger capex if you were to own the assets, contracts on the other hand is entirely different story icon_rolleyes.gif

After POS you can either sell them or mine other less profitable daggerhashimoto since its on circuit. or we all can launch a centralized daggerhashimoto coin later with tons of functions and sell to businesses.

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post May 15 2021, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 15 2021, 03:10 PM)
Actually what does daggerhashimoto mines? You do physical natural resources mining too?
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Daggerhashimoto = Ethash eth algo like Sha256 for Btc.

can say like that, i got license to deal with explosives. but this has nothing to do with crypto mining lol.
More of energy trading business.
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post May 16 2021, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(LowKeras @ May 16 2021, 04:16 AM)
Hmm i thinking can buy alienware rtx 3090? Cheaper?
Waiting time i not sure but the price fixed

Anyone feel free to comment. New here just study on the mining

Using r9 280 test on nicehash. Surprising can mine about 2 ringgit per day. Haha no profitable just seem easy

Any 2nd hand miner can find? Just want to test
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Definitely cheaper than retail and what ever bundle available on the market, take a look around. Browse shopee prices and you will know.

You are not the first to the party, hopefully not the last as nvidia rolling out gpu with limiters. Although 3090 alt coins also at 12 usd /day.

More over opt for the big capacit hdd ones so you can mine with your mining rig for 3090 and Alienware case for chia. Already a lot of people doing this, buy Alienware for the gpu and sell the rest of the systems or convert to chia mining. All pure profits after a few months lol.

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post May 16 2021, 07:54 PM

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QUOTE(LowKeras @ May 16 2021, 05:04 PM)
Thanks,there few things i still consider

If order from dell alienware, it may slower (usually around 5 to 12days) but how slow? 2months?

Chia mining, i will read some infor. Thanks for the confirmation
Just i calculate if purchase rm 11,800 getting usd 12/day. My roi still over 230 days.

Rtx 3080 @Rm8100 if us 11/day  =  roi 170 which less 60 days
What you point of view?
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Alienware rtx 3080 make more sense, if dollar to dollar par.
In cases where you only want to get your hands on 3090, 13k is still pretty good. Usually you get 3090 is because you have all these 1660s , 3060ti,70,80 and build only 90 to save more space since same number of rigs/ cards you can only cramm into per sqf.

In dollar sense and just started in, get whichever card that best fits in your budget for maximum hashrate and efficiency.

If you already running a facility, it is most logical to save spaces as other costs eats in you feel the pinch. It will become a hashrate game in the end, where you are competing to churn out as much hash rate and inevitable asic + gpu route.
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QUOTE(LowKeras @ May 16 2021, 10:02 PM)
Thanks for the great advise.

As review online the different 3080 vs 3090 only usd 2plus/day.
I may decide go for 3080 for trail test. ROI IF  only 170 days (usd 11/day), may reuse that profit to roll more unit (depend the value)

I still looking asic mining but now just haywire on the market. Not sure some is genuine seller or scammer. Do you have experience with any mining device? Plan to see antminer s9 but contact few lazada / shopee said out of stock. Ask me to pay first. (perhaps this is the trend)
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Dollar par is still 3080, go for it thumbup.gif

Why Ant miner s9 ? Its making about 4 usd a day while consuming 1400w, electricity will cost you about RM 580 and your ant miner only make less than Rm500 not to factor in the deafening high decibels emission. if really want to try asic mining i strongly suggest you look for a scrypt asic since doge and ltc is climbing and can still mine quite a good number for breakeven while have some profits. for example L3+ can breakeven in 2 months on current prices and make you about 5k usd a year. Sha256 is almost a dead end game already for non millionaires, even millionaires just enough to keep a float on btc mining.

Asic worth to get

-Scrypt
-Blake256R14

definitely will make money and pay for electricity. very fast roi in 60+days <-- for starters or small capital players.
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post May 17 2021, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(yushin @ May 17 2021, 12:08 AM)
How much is L3+ in the market?
Saw one in lazada for rm3k. I was like... sure or not?  shocking.gif

I've check whattomine. Really can be profitable now. Amazing return for something I almost thrown away 2 years ago.
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Avrg on usd 2k, cheapest about 1.7k usd. kangtao ones source yourself. Scrypt based is on steroids now, flip your antminer also made profit alrd lol.
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post May 17 2021, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(LowKeras @ May 17 2021, 03:58 PM)
Just pm 1 of lazada seller.L3 out of stock. S9 selling at rm 1688 left 3 units.
If usd 2.6 per days also roi about 170 days. Seem they jack up this machine
Yeah 3090 not economical. You will get you money back maybe 260 days or above.
I didc read some ppl using alienware mining but issue the casing overheated after 24hrs. What they does is remove the gpu and put to other mobo. Not sure how true
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L3+ about 8k+- since they will sell at 2k usd / unit,
Inno a6+ is about 3k usd. I last check market still has a few hundred units available. Mind you it's all used machine, so prepare to fork out for new psu along the way. Hopefully you do not require to buy a new control board also along the way.

S9 is totally out of the question, electricity will kill you unless you got solar or alternative cheap power source.

Roi in 80+ days if doge coin maintain current price, or ltc slightly longer.

Alienware cases has overheating issues if you use it non other than its intended purposes. As mentioned, we buy is because to take the gpu only as opposed to current stock shortage of cards.
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post May 18 2021, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(Darkmage12 @ May 17 2021, 09:47 PM)
L3+ so good price? Seriously? one month not 100 USD revenue? it's 500 mh right?
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depending which you get, 500mh is about 11usd/day on nicehash now.
Yea L3+ very good price, better sell now than never.

QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 17 2021, 10:13 PM)
RX3080 in Alienware is the best MH/$ BUT BUT BUT

1. The Lead time 5-6 weeks scared the RTX3070, RTX3070TI, RTX3080, RTX3080TI and RTX3090 will come with hashrate limiter which Nividia already started to rollout to all their AIBs, Galax already officially launched RTX3070 and 3080 with LHR . Imagine R12 u received in July can only hashing half, how long to get ROI? Unlike RTX3060 even with the nerf implemented, the dev driver 470.50 still can allow its full hashrate. For newer cards with limiter are mining-doomed.

2. BTC and ETH are on downtrend these few days after Musk announced no longer accepting BTC to buy their car.

3. ETH2.0 Proof of Stack is coming soon as soon as July 2021. Any investment in equipment to mine ETH has becoming really risky.

4. Yeah we can use Nicehash to mine other coins but Nicehash payout in BTC, with low BTC now your profit also down. Many miners on youtube already stop using nicehash especially when they suspended payout to Binance.

Not a good time to enter mining now especially with the GPU price disgustingly skyrocketing.  ranting.gif
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1. Dell confirmed is about 8 weeks. Confirmed LHR chance is high because even dell dont get enough stock to assemble their pcs. there is always mineable stuff available, its not like rtx 40 series will launch next year. if you are patient just mine until you ROI. so many choices, its not asic.
btw, it would seems 3090 will have no limiter variant. so expect the price to stay high unless they really release the a100 cmp. limiter is just to sell their expensice cmp cards.

2. If both BTC and ETH is so easily manipulated by musk better stay away from these both, it about time for a correction and profit taking to shake off retailers or those w/o holding power. check options and contracts also.

3. Proof of stake is not coming July2021, EIP1559 is. if POS is here i will withdraw all 32 eth, cant wait to see the interest from early staking. If you referring to beacon chain its already up but yet to merge and not so soon as july. EIP 1559 will slash incentive to miner hence profit down.

4. I believe miners has already started mining alts by themselves, and yes tq for telling people to stay away from nicehash. try hive, minerstat, awesome etc instead. its fun, no coding or rocket science involved.
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post May 19 2021, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 18 2021, 09:47 PM)
QUOTE(jett138 @ May 18 2021, 12:09 AM)


32ETH is minimum amount to become POS validator, have you considered?

My chat with dell yesterday

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already a validator, not going to continue once mainnet is up. i did posted a question lastime when it started.

Thank you for sharing your chat, try a purchase and you will know. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post May 19 2021, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 19 2021, 08:21 AM)
Fresh news from Nvidia few hours ago
Source : https://blogs.nvidia.com/blog/2021/05/18/lhr/
Very risky to buy Prebuilt PC with these cards now unless the shop or Dell Sale rep can tell you that it's LHR variant which i doubt they'll do that.

3090 is safe to buy but the extra RM4K for the card which only give an extra of 20MH from 3080 is not a viable solution economically especially with exortibant amount of wattage it requires to run. The card alone already cost RM10-11K. By the time you received your PC in July, ETH no longer profitable due to EIP1559 implementation.

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people buy prebuit to play games still ok ma... biggrin.gif
it is a viable solution when you have so many rigs of 3070, 3080 and now you want more hash for easier managing your pile of computers lol.

Do explore erg, ctxc, cfx mining.
when it shows profit of x amount means electricity is not even an issue you need to worry about, its fixed at about 7% of what ever you are making either in profits or loss. heck if you know where to and how to leverage get into electric contracts where it is definitely cheaper than tnb. your other cost are the big chunks, infra cost, management and upkeep.

rtx 30 series price will drop once rtx a series is out, finally some affordable proper deep learning cards. so less people will want to buy rtx30 series, convert more cards for mining lol drool.gif


QUOTE(greyshadow @ May 17 2021, 03:58 PM)
btw, I've just started mining with my 3060Ti one week+ ago, using Binance ETH pool now, but seems the income is flactuating, is that normal?
one day I was getting up to 0.005 ETH with 79 M/Hs daily hashrate, while today I've gotten only 0.003 ETH with 103 M/Hs daily hashrate??

any pool you guys can recommend?
i see some recommend nicehash hmm.gif
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Every day is different due to rising difficulty and variable block size. If your hashrate is not very high for stability can stick with nicehash since you are renting out the hashrate.
1. nicehash take a cut of your mining power, take a cut when they disburse the profits to you, take a cut when you transfer out. <-- of course you feel the pinch when your hashrate is around 1gh/s.
even nicehash has profit difference on region and time period biggrin.gif

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post May 19 2021, 10:13 PM

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QUOTE(sonypshomer @ May 19 2021, 01:24 PM)
Wow that's fast.

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Its here, 3080ti also here. Wont GG la, why so worry. pricing coming down tho for some brands.
not all as some distributor marked up the distribution price so certain brands will be more expensive then others.

QUOTE(yushin @ May 19 2021, 01:38 PM)
My zotac 3070 that come bundle with the new plotter pc i build not yet has LHS.
It was bought during Raya. Maybe last batch liao?
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3070 ones will come in June for LHR.

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