today i open a thread to ask for help regarding my pc...but the moderator =sempurna ..closed my thread wif the reason as in the picture below....is this y LYF created a techincal suport sub-forum ..so that the thread of ppl like me get deleted ....

pls see the picture that was included by me..


edit : my thread http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=432821

This post has been edited by expantyhoesthief: Mar 27 2007, 07:31 PM

Like what I said in your thread, I do not support the fact that we should help criminals fix the tools of their choice.

As long as I have the power to do so, I will continue to prevent such help from reaching criminals.

As you are a self-confessed malware writer, I certainly will not advocate anyone helping you to fix your systems so that you can write more malware to infect others. That would be like helping a child rapist and killer to sharpen their knives and parangs.

You should remember what you have done before.
Modifying the virus and sending to other is a crime, so the support won't be provided for a criminal.

( Same as giving the knife to the criminal and call him to kill us )

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/427846

I hardly see that Sempurna is behaving rudely to you. It's more like, he's closing your thread for an appropriate reason and you are ranting here.

Wow, this is a first lol..
Now he may be a self confessed malware writer, but have he really written a malware and distribute it to the general public and cause damage?
It may be his hobby and he likes challenge himself looking for loopholes in softwares..
IMHO, if he hasnt cause any damage, he has not commit a crime..

Now if i know how to kill, and i practice my parangs on trees and it got blunt, why cant u help me sharpen my knife?

So.. u are saying that we should act after a person is killed is it? even when u got wind that someone is plotting murder all along..

sorry kid, this is the real life.. in America they arrrest some teenagers for plotting murder in school, before the real thing even happen

Knowing how to kill and plotting to kill are two different things la..
Did he plot to spread the virus to the general public?
I dun think so..
And he offered to help clean the virus if anyone got infected by it, i dun think real virus writer with malicious intention will do that..
And dun call me kid unless u are an 80 year old man..

This post has been edited by GunMetalX: Mar 27 2007, 08:32 PM

The malware writer has already confessed to passing on the virus to others. Need I say more?

Shouldnt you be asking whether we should be reporting him to the police? Even by our weak cyber laws, he has committed a crime.

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Added on March 27, 2007, 8:34 pmYes, he did plot to do it. Just read his post.

And, does that mean if a rapist offers to counsel his victims, we forgive him? What kind of logic is that?

This post has been edited by Sempurna: Mar 27 2007, 08:34 PM

The point is what's done is done. No two ways about it. Don't tell me it's ok for you to shoot someone and then offer to pay their medical bills? What sort of ethic's rational is that?

There is no rapist and there is no victim lar..
The person who caught the virus was his fren using his pc, did he purposely pass it around? i dun think so..

i have no inkling to our weak cyber laws, kindly quote it pls..

I'm curious as to why you are so fervently standing up for him. If you were infected by the malware or virus that he propagated, would you still be defending him? Don't be so quick to jump to his defence. THINK about WHY you are defending him.

This post has been edited by altie: Mar 27 2007, 08:58 PM

The intent itself already exists. That by itself is tantamount to premeditating to commit a crime.

I'm a very savvy pc user, and i have a very reliable antivirus software, so i doubt i'll be infected by any malware or virus, especially from an amateur virus writer..

I guess i'm just sometimes irritated by some people who has the power and uses them like nobody's business.. A forum is a place for people to seek knowledge and opinions of other people.. U dont just go around barring people from doing it just bcoz he did some bad stuff before or he may use that knowledge to do bad stuff.. bcoz afaik, that knowledge may be seek by other people too. U dun go cut the flow just like that.

Wat i think is as long as he dun ask how to write a virus or how to propagate it then it's fine and he should not be taken any action..

Anyway even if he may have broke any cyber law, he is innocent until proven guilty.. We cant just take law into our own hands..

That story was the most amazing story I've ever heard in response to a help thread.
Salutations!

So did Sempurna break any laws by exercising sound judgment? I don't recall our weak cyber laws mentioning anything about forums not having the leisure to refuse service, and in this instance with good reason.

LOL, nexus i salute u, yr reply is soundproof, flameproof and bulletproof, and it holds a lot of water..

Wat i'm trying to say is mods should be more flexible and compassionate and not go everything by the book.. The guy is asking for help, i mean help to something perfectly legal, so just help him la.. Enough said..

As much as we allow for debate and discussion on forum policy, this is too much. In this forum, you are liable for your actions. The only reason his account is not suspended is because there was no complaints about his "virus". Make no mistake, this particular user has already had at least one account permanently suspended before this incident.

no such thing as a reliable antivirus software and even the most savy pc users do get infected by malware and worms (if not viruses). amateur virus writer? please don't inflate his already small ego. i doubt he's even that. just some script kiddy. which self-proclaimed virus writer would not know the basics of troubleshooting his own pc?

oh. he is very welcome on the board, just not in tech support subforum i suppose.

try spending your days as a tech support mod helping others clean-up their infected pc's over-and-over again and see if you have an affinity for script kiddies...

how about a confession?



taken form the original thread....

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=ST&f...0?entry10777181

i think the decision to close his thread is just enough, it will be a disgrace if we intentionally help a criminal in his bid to hack ppl ...

Now u are talking!!!
Thanks for the facts, i rest my case..

huh?

ps: GunMetalX, you do realise post count in this sub-forum is disable
and your post count is wouldn't increase

i already apologize for what i done...and i removed the malware...i did sent out to everyone and teach them how to remove it....and u ar stil coming after me and say wat rape / f*** a girl ...lar...wat u mean by that....realli annoying u noe

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Added on March 27, 2007, 11:12 pmdid i tak chui u....pls explain ur post..

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Added on March 27, 2007, 11:15 pmyes..but i apologize d bro...i pm the admin and ask for apology d...

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Added on March 27, 2007, 11:16 pmits my hobby..but untill noe the person who kena my virus is only my fren...the rest .none ...i removed the virus in 1 hour..i even deleted my ori script...

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Added on March 27, 2007, 11:17 pmer..bro..did i kill someone..then like tat everyone who create a virus is a killer ..OMG>....faster run.....lmao

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Added on March 27, 2007, 11:18 pmam i a rapist..then y not u conclude that everyone who creates a virus is a rapist....wahlao...then ur gf aso cham liao ..rite..faster protect her bro..

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Added on March 27, 2007, 11:20 pmyes my last account was suspended permantly bcoz of my stupit fren..i stay at 9th floor and he stays at 7th floor...u can check my IP and his IP(his new account is exnotears)-(was using my account to flame and other things)..is almost the same..thats y ..this account my password i din giv to any of my frenz..

This post has been edited by expantyhoesthief: Mar 27 2007, 11:20 PM

I think you get the wrong idea.
The people you should apologize is Sempurna. He been teaching me a lot in standing the malware and even recommended me to join Hijackthis TSF Academy.
He been working at TSF and SWI for no time because of that stupid malware, your word will burst people .

Remember that.

What an insult, distributing modified virus is indeed like raping ppls computer.
You owe Sempurna an apology.

my account is only pantyhoesthief and expantyhoesthief....pantyhoesthief was permenantly banmed due to misused...epantyhoesthief is used by dharwin( from cheras)i juz asked him..he ask me to create this account for him one..dont believe me u can ask him ur self...and notears and exnotears is not me either...u can call up the owner of notears or exnotears at msn ( add him at ricahrd_sy0702@hotmail.com to verify) ..my name is timothy(currently no hand fone to use..my e398 fell from my bed and ther it goes..)

i persoanlly called up richard and ask him to log-in-to LYF and explain ..he say no time n some other stupit reasons....last time we were partners but ther was a fight..so now no more fren...

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Added on March 27, 2007, 11:31 pmto SEMPURNA AND THE ADMIN (SE7EN) OF LYF...i'm very sorry.and am asking for apology ..pls forgive me and i'll not create any other malware for distribution purpose..my hobby is is script writing ..so i wil stil play with it..but wont distribute..and to the admin...i have only one account= expantyhoesthief ...i use auto-login ..pls recheck ...yah..we are neighbours so .our IP is almost near ...pls do recheck again..my LYF account in this ip is an auto login one...i never login to other accounts...pls recheck ..

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Added on March 27, 2007, 11:34 pmpls dont spam ..




edit: and how abt my avatar..it was also removed...can anyone explain pls..

This post has been edited by expantyhoesthief: Mar 27 2007, 11:34 PM

i wish i was a free as some of the people here

pls do not spam here..

edit : i hope those who aren't replying with good thoughts do not disturb my thread..or else wil be reported tq..

This post has been edited by expantyhoesthief: Mar 27 2007, 11:41 PM

I guess you yourself can answer that question.
Look at your sig.

aiyo bro..lampah and lanpa is two different words..i dont understand u all lar..so like to accuse ppl..

Hey, did u see my post count?
Cmon la, u think everyone like u meh, post just to increase post count..

I don't get it, at first i thought u created this thread for an explanation and now you're going "I already said i'm sorry!!!" ??
If you're sorry then you know that the original thread was wrong and you'd not continue this thread here
It's not like u were suspended or something right?

nope i wasn' suspended

i already said sorry.to the admin and mod...but now is ay again..i wan that warning level and that my dupe accs word removed from my accout.
i cant even make busines here.some of them here ar my delaers.

I smell a dupe who's into the 3rd person psychology and a spam fest. Enough of this BS. TS, you must be quite unaware the warn levels and reasons of warn is not visible to normal users including VIP/Elites aren't you? And secondly GunMetalX (Whoever you may be), if you feel that you can't even have decent reply and instead walk about in circles like a dog chasing it's tail, I'd suggest you leave this topic well alone unless you do have an ulterior motive of trolling+baiting

i noe abt it tats..y i wanna ask them to remove it..bcoz once i have it even 10% aso is affecting my business..ppl cant see it...thye can assume anything..so tats y i'm asking for a remove lor.

picture of chat log between me and the owner of notears and exnotears is included ..clikc the 1st then only click the second one..tq..

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okay guys...

i come here just to leave some words.

expantyhonesthief <-- my fren
epanthyhonesthief <-- my fren was asked to create an account for his fren. my fren just obey and created one which close to his original one.
Currently is being occupy by his fren, aka Darwin.

i split this mess into two cases,
first, about the melware, My friend told me he didnt know about "sharing melware knowledge is not allowed here" If not he wont be daring enought to say all the words. So i assume my friend is holding " For fun" mind in his act.

i see thru few threads related into this case, found none has being affected by the act given by my friend. So i assume, Yes, He owe this forum an apologize for the stupidness he did. But, no he didnt do which equal to what the mod "Sempurna" had mentioned. the situation is not that serious as could use "Rape" as case study.

So my conclusion, giving some warning and Teach him properly. But not using these kind of "example" for describe the thread starter...

Case 2,
About Account Cloning.
I assuming Mods can use their tools to scan the IP of the signin person.
but i remember, however IP address is near, but tat doesn't mean they ARE same. right?

Be frankly speaking la.. i ever being accused the same happening before.. but luckily somebody defended me.

i trust my friend not having a clone acount, with a very easy reason, he believe in god of christ. And i know he has been very sincere with god for years.

so... Judge yourself la guys.

You're worried that a 10% warning, that is absolutely invisible to everyone else in the forum (Except Staff and Admins of course) will somehow affect your business... So you only do business with Staff and Admins?

Right. By that logic, wouldn't that mean that EVERYONE would be affected as well since you never know if someone has 50%, 100% or *gasp* 0% in their warn meter. Everyone would be like "Hmm, should I do business with him? I can't see his warn level, so it could be 100%!!!".

If everyone thought like you did, the whole trade zone would be barren in a minute.

even 10% means something....

if rm1 is ur pocket money for one month,,will u appreaciate rm0.10 ..yes of course...

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Added on March 28, 2007, 12:34 amsorry...i thought u were spaming..realli sorry

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Added on March 28, 2007, 12:56 amagain based on ur statement..mayb is true..then how do u explain the words in my picture



This post has been edited by expantyhoesthief: Mar 28 2007, 12:57 AM

there is no need for this thread to go further. expantyhoesthief, i don't think this topic was about your possible dupe accounts. As for your technical support topic being closed, it is due to your bad reputation, and maybe your apology will in someway go towards your redemption. It is not going to happen overnight for some of the members to forget what you did. May it be a lesson to you.

thread closed.

Behave well and wait patiently in the meantime, the warning will expire in 6 months.

then how abt..my possible dupe accounts

i'm going to let this pass this time, but the next time you reopen a thread closed by a moderator, expect an automatic 3 day suspension.

As i mentioned previously, this thread is not about your dupe account. You have not received a warning or a suspension in relation to that matter, which simply means that we do not have reason to believe you have used or created an account in bad faith, to con or deceive. So till and until when you do abuse a second (or third) account, i don't see any reason for there to be a feedback on the issue.