QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 10 2017, 05:42 PM)
I'd expect to see BTC sub 2k, about 1800-1900.when panic news sell can pullback at around 40%, previous forking around 40% range
hopefully there aren't any unexpected decision flips.
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QUOTE(Ch3n_low @ Jul 10 2017, 06:18 PM) hope it can drop then I can pump in more... Hi Sifus, anyone know how to match loan demands 5% in poloniex... saw the demands but cant match it QUOTE(heavensea @ Jul 10 2017, 06:26 PM) Few weeks to go, but I don't think those depreciated coins can restore to its peak value in short time. forking panic sell, from 1300 to 850, roughly 35%Btc dip, the rest of coins also heading the Holland. ![]() |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 10 2017, 07:20 PM) My altcoins value are held up by BTC. Once BTC drops, going to bleed some more.... got it from here.Damn, that's a nice chart. Where did you get it from? On the chart, the one I'm interested is the bullrun after the hardfork. Very nice bullrun! http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-05-25/c...ever-re-emerges there was another site which records down everything from day of birth for bitcoin. here : https://99bitcoins.com/price-chart-history/ i studied it, guess the max it can pullback is around 40% (1-2days max can crash 40%) 40% crash already send those margin traders to heaven again and again. exchange boss clapping hand when margin called the only way btc can go into bear cycle is when chinese government ban their exchange for withdrawal. This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 10 2017, 07:34 PM |
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QUOTE(heavensea @ Jul 10 2017, 07:37 PM) yesit's forking fears. like the event on August 1st. irregardless of got fork or no fork, i think exchange cartels will push BTC down to sub 2,000 levels. plenty of margin traders gonna see the heavens 1700-1900 area very thick buy for these few months d. i dont think sellers dare to sell near there. so thats the best entry price even if we take $2600 price range x 70%, it's around $1,750. max they hammer kawkaw 30-35% it's around that area. and all of the above assuming no unexpected events This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 10 2017, 07:51 PM |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 10 2017, 08:04 PM) Nice. think of this. if yesterday btc is 2600.Great! I got zero TA skills so your info helps me decide what to do next. I thought of entering the market again in the next few days but now I think I will only enter if bitcoin drops to near 1700-1900 level. I have been wondering why bitcoin is not going down. So, go down happy to buy, go up also happy to watch. today becomes 1800. all the big buyers jumped in and buy it. what happened to seller ? seller got burned badly. so seller don't dare to sell way too low. and btc market capitalisation is the biggest of all, which makes it the most expensive one to short in a bull market. all the drop is massive dumping by whales (probably exchange cartels) to kick those margin traders. I just put an analogy. if wootz were to liquidate, he would not dump 20k ETH in one blow because it would simply collapse let's say $70. genuine sellers always want to sell high. not sell low. so they would sell bit by bit over some period to get better price, sell more on the top area. but I've seen far too many times when btc crashes u see waves of 100-200btc being dumped onto buyers in flashes of seconds. buyers cratered layer by layers until eventually sellers got too close to massive buy wall. buy wall could also be the sellers themselves. by whacking anything in between to faint and die like margin traders, they pick up their position at a much lower price. then sellers squared off, closing their short positions and things get "normal" again. usually this punching, hammering has its own range, around 30-35% for BTC is a very much safe range to get in as seller themselves already exhausted this range has been maximum pullback range for a couple of years now. but other coins range is different. ETH 40%. ANS 50%. others might be more. btc is volatile but because it's established position as money and practical usage it won't crash 50% as long as all the exchanges are intact and serving all continents. dunt take my word for it. do ur own homework n calculate fluctuation for those established, with practical usage coins, with large market capital. This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 10 2017, 09:09 PM |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 10 2017, 07:20 PM) My altcoins value are held up by BTC. Once BTC drops, going to bleed some more.... 2year maximum swing range. should be more volatile as this price is average price, so it does not compute the volatile maximum range. Damn, that's a nice chart. Where did you get it from? On the chart, the one I'm interested is the bullrun after the hardfork. Very nice bullrun! ![]() |
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QUOTE(ccsang @ Jul 10 2017, 10:26 PM) May I asking you how to you bought btc? From luna or direct buy from buyer ? you said that already cash ready jump in $1900, then luno must higher than that , between $2000-$2100, let say I want to buy 10 or more NYC at $1900 , may you teach me how or best way to buy ? malaysians have to pay more. ahhahahaunfortunately unless u have access to US exchange, u got to pay premium over it. nobody gonna sell u without profit with the money parked at exchange there waiting doing nothing until it dips or crash and for many many times when the price at exchange crash, LUNO price dint moved because nobody was selling anything. LOL you see the price waterfalling all is made up by margin traders pushing the price down at those few exchanges only. This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 10 2017, 10:40 PM |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 10 2017, 10:46 PM) I see I see. I'm no good in all these. Guess have to learn. got plenty of sites with chart. That's the reason I'm more of a HODLer. If day/margin trade, sure die. You mentioned you use coinbase to analyse the charts? those with margin trades are of course more volatile, swings more due to margin. Like BitFinex, POLO. the things that i told u is not day trading, and it's not technical analysis. it's purely price observation only. it's like you ask the aunty for the fish price. because aunty always observe fish price according to season, according to fisherman mood. is it cheap now ? is it expensive now ? is it super LELONG price now ? it's about the price, price & price. This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 10 2017, 10:59 PM |
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QUOTE(kmarc @ Jul 10 2017, 11:11 PM) Haha, ok ok. right now no panic sell, BTC wont touch $2000 area yetLooks like BTC moving down now..... see how far it goes. I also know how to see charts la. See this market depth on BTC. [attachmentid=8955860] Left buy side more steep... big wave... so won't go down so much.... lol Edit : Hmmm... something's going on. My clams' loan taken up at 0.2-0.25%. Other loans at lower rates also snapped up. People going long? |
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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Jul 11 2017, 10:25 PM) I already observe over the weekend RM250-300 price premium per btc, u pay higher 300-400. sell back also higher 300-400 so it's ok wan.Today around RM800 price premium per btc, AllnGap I guess you have a personal account in the states? or are you using your friend/relative? Are you keeping your US dollar in the following? poloniex bittrex Kraken coinbase and maybe 60% cash in polo, and 40% in bittrex? do you even use kraken/coinbase? also what about online wallets, you keep anything there? exodus, coinomi etc? those countries with banana money or 3rd world unwanted, unstable currency or with strict capital control(Korea), even artificial exchange rate like China all have to pay premium. Malaysia, indonesia, china, India, korea all have premium. most of the dumping is through US margin exchanges. Asians in particular have very high holding power so nobody gonna sell u near according to those US exchanges. only time when I saw xbitasia n LUNO near to USD price was when suddenly MYR push from RM 4.5 to rm 4.25 (I'm not sure exactly reason but sudden strengthen MYR to USD) I forgot where I saw it xbitasia I think. normal daily volume around 50btc. got one time USD price drop a lot like now. the spread widen around 300-400 in Malaysia exchange( meaning buyer n seller price 300+ ringgit apart) price difference with USD around rm 1.1k. both sides unwilling to trade that's why price tore apart. for 12 hours total sell transaction only around 2btc. half day only got 2btc dumped at buyer level price. u instant buy pay 300bux extra because they will take lowest of the sell side for u. whole 12hours only got 2btc maybe from desperate sellers. but US exchanges dunno dumped by near to 3,000btc (one exchange) in that few hours. u understand what I mean ? US there 12hours dumped 4,000btc in 12hours while local here only 2BTC. it's only cheap at US exchanges. not cheap at local exchanges because nobody was selling so low locally. This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 12 2017, 03:51 AM |
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QUOTE(Leon be here now @ Jul 12 2017, 04:00 AM) Thanks for your clear explication and examples when u see very big spread at LUNO means buyer n seller disagree about the price. usually when it crashes down rapidly.Im still very green in the crypto world, and when I saw yesterdays Jacked up price of RM800, just wanted to ask sifu here if its normal. Im mostly going to hold crypto for a while and not really going to sell it back to RM, unless I really need it, going to store crypto and use it overseas when the time comes. If you have a BTC in polo and liquidate it to USD, can a non resident user hold USD on their polo account? Im thinking of selling BTC convert to USD store in polo and wait to buy altcoins back when the time is right, is that possible to do in poloniex, bittrex, Kraken, coinbase? can convert to usdT cuz those exchanges don't wanna deal with regulations so they came up with a USDollar coin called USDT. can try bittrex, poloniex, bitfinex for altcoins |
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http://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/12/switzerland...confidence.html
Bitcoin just got a vote of confidence from Switzerland's legendary banking system Falcon Private Bank said Wednesday it received approval from a Swiss regulator to offer bitcoin products. This is the first time the Swiss regulator has done so. The decision could pave the way for other global regulators to approve bitcoin products. the elites are going to buy BITCOIN riao.....rich clients just need to ring their bankers. OIIIIII, BUY SOME BTC FOR ME AH !!! This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 14 2017, 08:32 AM |
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QUOTE(archangel22 @ Jul 14 2017, 03:53 PM) Great news I guess not that they need a bank to buy, these elites are institutional level kind of group.But still not sure why they need a bank to buy Bitcoin. Investors hands prob so itchy. I think this Aug split FUD will be nothing compared to whats coming next. their clients must a minimum USD 2mil park with them. these are the rich elite which also diversify into crypto. if one day pension funds starts to shift even 1% of their stocks/bonds holding into BTC, fulamak at least 10x current price global stock market is valued at USD 69,000 Bil, BTC and others just totalled around USD 100Bil when new group of investors especially institutional level enters, it's a great news. This post has been edited by AllnGap: Jul 14 2017, 04:00 PM |
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