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 Mar 5 2018, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 3 2018, 01:33 AM) Anyway here is a video on his Vatican views. I've been reading about this guy. Denlingerism. lol Man, sylar you sure about this guy? Plus the way he talks about inter-racial marriage? That video really put me off. So what if some of us are mixed, we can't help it. lol |
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Mar 5 2018, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(zanness @ Mar 5 2018, 11:56 AM) or the meaning of Matthew 26:22, Does that text imply that everyone of us are capable of betraying / denying Jesus? But Jesus know the one who will betray him.22 And they were exceeding sorrowful, and began every one of them to say unto him, Lord, is it I? Has anyone asked, why is it that the disciples asked.. is it I ? |
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Mar 5 2018, 09:41 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 5 2018, 09:37 PM) Well. There is even a special term about this guy. Shows he is special right? Well Hitler wanted a pure German Aryan race. See where he end up now. lolI knew that you have a issue about inter marriage. I do not want to discuss about this because of obvious reasons. Anyway. There are things I disagree with him as well. But then if you watch his views on voting and on the previous videos that I shared with you it is spot on. I even "warned" you about his inter marriage views. But then he did back it up with scriptures. Anyway.  |
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Mar 5 2018, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(shioks @ Mar 4 2018, 01:09 PM) QUOTE “如果所有的基督徒都是名副其实的基督徒，今天就不会再有伊斯兰教。” Does this mean, "If all are Christians now, there is no Islam today." My Mandarin still in beginner's level. lol. |
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Mar 5 2018, 09:46 PM
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Hey De_Luffy, are you recuperating or still waiting for surgery? lol
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Mar 5 2018, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 5 2018, 10:07 PM) Well. Brian hates interracial marraige because he wants races to be distinct.In fact, based on his views on inter Marraige, Brian is actually for distinct races. It is controversial and also many people are going to accuse him of being a racist. But he is obviously the opposite of that. He is actually brave to preach on something that he knows he is going to get a lot of flak for. You may think he respect inter-racial marriage, but I think he's talking nonsense. Why worry about offending me? I'm not a kid. lolI actually have a good defense on this but I am going to not discuss on this because I do not want to offend you. 1 Corinthians 8 7 Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. 8 But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. 9 But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. 10 For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; 11 And through thy knowledge shall the weak brother perish, for whom Christ died? I don't think God is too concern on whether you are from mix-marriage or not. Is that even a priority. lol Priority is whether one is saved. Plus I don't think he want to hear women's opinions anyway. Duh.. You should see his video on "income issues." Asking his subsribers to donate. Well what are you waiting for? This post has been edited by tinarhian: Mar 5 2018, 10:25 PM |
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Mar 5 2018, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Mar 5 2018, 10:15 PM) Me still in ward too many complications, for my cough found the issue affecting me but need further test to check what is it Rest instead of surfing lowyat forum. lol. |
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Mar 5 2018, 10:51 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 5 2018, 10:44 PM) Actually, I am subscribed to him. Anyway he is against interracial marriage. Actually he did give a good defence of it in his video. But I know you will not like it. There is no verse in the Bible that is against inter-marriage. what ever suit your taste man.I rather pay to support his ministry then to pay to support to funding of a church building. I think I did mention that to you. He should buy bitcoin. lol |
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Mar 6 2018, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 5 2018, 11:15 PM) Actually think about it. He could really make a lot of money by monetising his channel. Let's be objective here. He is much better then this Robert breaker guy. If he wants to he could actually make more money. And he could also be politically correct too. But then monetising preaching is obviously unethical. If I were him, I would be dissapointed as well. Anyways if I cannot even help him with a small token after I have gained from watching his videos do you think God will bless me? I mean we are willing to pay much more for a secular educational video right? Honestly IDK about who is Robert Breaker. lol. Well, FYI, Bryan Denlinger branded everyone else as "false teacher."  IDK why you still want to hear to that bloody wanker. There is more to life than listening to somebody who dont know what they are talking about. Before you reply, I just want to say this, whatever suit your taste man. |
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Mar 6 2018, 10:04 PM
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Read my sentence again, Sola scriptura is not man-made. 2 Timothy 3:16, "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness." Sola scriptura points back to the word of God so how is that man-made or is a tradition? Praying to the dead, Mary, infant baptism, graven image, creating image of God, etc that is unbiblical tradition that is not practice in the Bible. Didn't Pope John Paul II tell the Catholics to ask forgiveness from priest and not from God?  QUOTE St. Leo the Great (440-461) writes: "God in His abundant mercy has provided two remedies for the sins of men; that they may gain eternal life by the grace of Baptism, and also by the remedy of Penance. Those who have violated the vows of their Baptism may obtain the remission of their sins by condemning themselves; the divine goodness has so decreed that [pg. 284] the pardon of God can only be obtained by sinners through the prayers of the priests. Jesus Christ Himself has conferred upon the rulers of the Church the power of imposing canonical penance upon sinners who confess their sins, and of allowing them to receive the Sacraments of Christ, after they have purified their souls by a salutary satisfaction. . . . " (Epis. cviii.). [Emphasis supplied] 1 John 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.Did the Bible verse above mentioned that we must ask forgiveness from priests? QUOTE So as can be deduced from the above, the Catholic believes they are normally in a state of owing God satisfaction for the temporal punishment they are due because of sin, and they are expecting to spend some time in purgatory until they are cleansed by its fire and made fit for heaven. The Catholic believes they have to constantly perform good works to try and lessen the punishment they will receive. The Catholic literally tries to "work" their way into heaven, thinking they are making themselves acceptable to God in the process. Should they somehow fall short and wind up in purgatory instead, they then rely on the good works of friends and relatives to get them out of purgatory and into heaven. An exception to this would be when they have recently and faithfully performed a plenary (full) penance or indulgence, and die in a pristine state of grace. In that case, they are told, they will bypass purgatory and enter heaven immediately. RECONCILIATION AND PENANCEIs this what the Bible teaches? Are we to work off the "temporal punishment" we are supposedly due through penance or indulgences, or burn in purgatory in order to make it to heaven? What does the Bible say about justification and forgiveness of sins? Acts 26:18 To open their eyes, and to turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan unto God, that they may receive forgiveness of sins, and inheritance among them which are sanctified by faith that is in me. Paul didn't teach about celibacy. He just mentioned that people should not fornicate but to marry instead. The Bible did not mentioned that Catholic men who want to be a priest must practice celibacy. Did you read about the celibacy history of the Catholic church? QUOTE Council of Elvira, the first known council of the Christian church in Spain, held early in the 4th century at Elvira, near modern Granada. It is the first council of which the canons have survived, and they provide the earliest reliable information on the Spanish church. The exact date is disputed, but some scholars believe it was held either about 300–303 or in 309. Chicken and duck yeeck. lolNineteen bishops and 24 priests, primarily from southern Spain, assembled with the intention of restoring order and discipline in the church. The 81 canons that were adopted reflect the internal life and external relations of the Spanish church in the 4th century. In general, the canons were severe and imposed rigorous discipline for various sins. No reconciliation with the church was allowed for certain sins, including idolatry, repeated adultery, divorce, and incest. The punishment for lesser sins was exclusion from Holy Communion, sometimes for up to 10 years. Members of the clergy were expected to lead pure and holy lives. Subsequently, some of the canons were included in the canons of later councils, including the Council of Nicaea (325). This post has been edited by tinarhian: Mar 6 2018, 10:05 PM |
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Mar 7 2018, 08:31 PM
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QUOTE(De_Luffy @ Mar 7 2018, 11:47 AM) This thread has gone overboard with all arguing about their theology and idea that should be preached, this must stop one more time I see similar posting straight to the report button Well some people like to debate, argue, preach, confide in one another. Sadly nobody encourage one another enough. Nobody is interested to have fellowship with each other but rather all I see here is arguments. Better report the post or closed it for few days. You want argument go RWI, this is not your place to argue.  Ok for these few nights I won't debate with Catholic traditionalist Yeeck. I'm sure he's bored with me. Aren't you suppose to relax? why bother yourself with these petty things? lol |
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Mar 11 2018, 02:42 AM
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 7 2018, 02:12 PM) Isn't it better to pray directly to God instead of Mary? Why is Mary the middle (wo)man between God and man? So is there a different between praying to God and Mary? And why is Mary still considered as Virgin Mary? She wasn't "virgin" permanently. lolShe was virgin when she gave birth to Jesus. Joseph and Mary had other children as well you know. So she can't be considered as "Virgin Mary." 1 Timothy 2:5 says there is one mediator between God and men. It never specify Virgin Mary or priests, saints, etc...As Christians we pray to a deity not a human. Worshipping and bowing to idols are forbidden you know. From the beginning itself, we should worship to God. Not to create an image and worshipping the image. Paul said that Christ is the image of God, he didn't mention in the Bible that you should create an image of Jesus and Mary. Well if you say that 1500 years ago somebody added "alone" in the Bible text, then I must ask who added "priest can forgive sins" in the Bible? Its not in the text. Its just your imagination. Jesus was speaking to his disciples. There's no mandate from Heaven that mention men have the ability to forgive sins. Seriously what's the point of praying to God when Catholics insist that its better to pray to men? I find that really insulting. QUOTE Celibacy was a voluntary ascetic practice of early Christian monks and some clerics, but not universally required of Roman Catholic priests until 1139. Roman Catholic priests now are mandated to make a promise or vow of celibacy before they can be ordained. Clerical celibacy precludes absolutely any willful sexual release. QUOTE In an effort You see yeeck its tradition when it comes to celibacy, not that because of the Bible. Because the Pope decreed it. lolto protect church property, Pelagius I required all priests to sign an agreement not to allow any of their children to inherit church property. In AD 1022 Pope Benedict VIII officially declared that priests were banned from taking on wives or mistresses in order to protect church property rights, although those who were married before entering the priesthood were allowed to keep their wives. Finally, in AD 1139, Pope Innocent II declared all priest marriages annulled, declaring celibacy the rule for all Catholic priests from that day forward. To be fair to Innocent II, his reforms were at least as much directed toward eliminating the blatant sin in the priesthood as toward protecting church property. There were a number of attempts from within the catholic priesthood to reinstate marriage as a possibility right up until the sixteenth century. To summarize, asceticism in general and asceticism in particular were begun as a very misguided but probably mostly sincere attempt by some early Christians to express their spirituality. When celibacy was finally enforced for the priesthood it was principally as a rather cynical means of protecting church property from inheritance by the children of priests. Chicken and duck. yeeck. lol. |
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Mar 11 2018, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE Roman Catholic doctrines such as infant baptism, sprinkling during baptism, teachings on death and immortality, tonsured and celibate priests with power over the dead, prayers to the dead and to relics, repetitive prayers with the use of beads, doctrines on forgiveness of sins, teachings on hell, the mass, and Sunday worship are doctrines actually derived directly from ancient Babylon. |
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Mar 12 2018, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 11 2018, 02:27 PM) Again you misunderstood. Nobody is denying the fact that Jesus birth is through the virgin Mary. Beside, the prophecy of Isaiah must indeed come true. What Catholic cannot accept and refuse to understand is that Mary is not a perpetual virgin. Then what about Matthew 12:46 or Mark 6:3 ? You mean to tell me that Jesus had no siblings? You meant that there are his cousins? Because the greek that is used does not imply "cousins." So did Matthew and Mark made error on this part of the text?Yes Martin Luther and Calvin defended the perpetual virginity of Mary. When it suit you, you ignore the Bible verse that say otherwise. You meant God wanted Mary to live a life of celibacy as well? It does not make sense because God intended the Jews to multiply not to live a life of celibacy. Then who is Jesus referring to in Matthew 12:46 onwards? You mean his adopted brothers and sisters? You will probably say to not take it literally eh? Yeah whenever it suit you, you shift your goalpost.  Isn't RC Bible had extra books? Maybe those books are not God inspired. I don't blame you because of the Roman Emperor's tradition with the Bible text. People will say its heresy because the Roman Emperor Constantine started all of these Catholic traditions. The origin of it all. So when Catholics pray to Mary, do they pray to her for salvation? Why don't pray to God? Yes I believed Catholic adore God but they confessed their sins to the priests to avoid purgatory. I read that there is a mistranslation of repetance into penance. No wonder Catholics got excited about it. Just say your "Hail Marys" and do your rosary, everything boleh. No need to confess to God. Shortcut eh? Then what about 1 Timothy 2:5? Is that invalid? Or Catholic prefer men to forgive sins? Where is text in the Bible that show that? I think its because of your extra books. Priests or pastors, or as they say "elders" are suppose to preach the gospel and teach in the pulpit about the Word of God. But hey I guess Catholics don't bother about that. Its more of doing the rituals and following the traditions. I don't want to even start with the Catholics sex scandal, freemason, etc...That's why the Bible commanded us to get married not to live a hermit lifestyle. Don't get this the wrong way, but I think Catholics does not seem to realize the impact of Jesus death on the cross. If you see inside the Catholic church, they still have Jesus on the cross. Jesus Christ purged our sins on the cross. I know why Catholics defended purgatory. Its because the extra book again, Maccabees. There is no mention of spending time in purgatory yeeck. If you insist, then maybe Catholics can spend time there and report back if its really what it is. You know why the early church invented purgatory. To scare those poor souls out of their hard-earned monies. Oh RC added the extra books at the Council of Trent to counter the accusations on Purgatory. How convenience. Do you know what is Pontifix Maximus? It mean Greatest Pontiff. Or Great Priest. Only Roman Emperors during those pagan times have this title. Why do you think Constantine hijack the church of Rome? Chicken and duck yeeck. lol. |
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Mar 12 2018, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 12 2018, 12:48 PM) I know debating with yeeck will not change his traditional heart. No more Denlinger!!! Love is love, it does not matter about race. Just don't marry Catholics. kidding yo..  |
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Mar 12 2018, 08:58 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 12 2018, 05:50 PM) That is why I told you not to debate with him. It's futile. He will purposely twist what you say, change definitions, etc. There will never be a clear "winner". Someone who is really looking for the truth will not pin point that you said that you actually imply that the bible says that it's imperative that everyone should marry. No one is saying that priests cannot be 'celibate ' if they choose so. Arguing with him is like arguing with an atheist. They will forever change their goalpost and then go back to their original point again. Making you go circles and circles so why bother? Its not about winning. Its about learning the truth of Jesus, spreading the gospel, etc.. |
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Mar 12 2018, 09:00 PM
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TS should renamed this thread. LYN Christian Fellowship (TRIGGERED EDITION). lol..
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Mar 12 2018, 09:11 PM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Mar 12 2018, 09:06 PM) Problem is will he learn? IDK. lol. |
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Mar 12 2018, 09:15 PM
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Ah don't forget about The Knights Templar, endorsed by the Pope. They cannot drink, swear, and must remain a virgin. lol
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Mar 27 2018, 08:56 PM
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Reporting in argumentative thread. LOL
So basically Desmond is unhappy that UW is teaching "hyper grace" and "prosperity gospel." Now its about Joshua and Caleb. Ok continue. LOL |
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