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I didn't know that..hahaha...LYN Christian Fellowship V13 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.
LYN Christian Fellowship V13 (Group), ALL about Jesus Christ.
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Oct 14 2017, 02:08 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 13 2017, 08:53 AM) Well the thing is, aside from this Ukraine matter which is not really an end of the world matter, don't understand why you need to be rude towards me. UW, it is wrong that you deleted Desmond comments too. He is not partially wrong. But, Desmond, you don't have to respond rudely to UW too. I mean, I don't know, if you are a christian and you think it's alright to exhibit this sort of attitude, I just find that puzzling. Didn't Christ said to Love your brothers? If you claim to Love God and yet hate your brother, according to God, you would be a liar. And you attack me as well as my devotions, telling me it's wrong (to which I disagree) and all that, I would presume you are Christian since it interest you. And yet you don't act like one. What is going on? * The thing is, I just don't like it if another fellow (so to speak is a Christian) and attacks another Christian. That is just wrong, before another fellow human being and before God. The reason why I say this is because we all have our individual life in this world. Are we not to respect one another? Because if you do this in real life, this is how Fight and Quarrelling starts among people. I mean sure this is a forum, maybe you think, it's safe to here without the fear of being confronted in real life. But if you do things like this before another person in real life and if you do this to a wrong guy, you may get punched in the face from people you don't know. Truth is, we are all here but we don't really know one another in real life. The reason why I'm bringing this up with you is because I don't think it's right for a Christian to attack one another. This is what happened to the corinthians and they got rebuke for it because its wrong. I mean wrong is wrong. You don't need to justify for it. If you're doing the same thing, bringing division if not exhibiting a bitter spirit and spewing hate, that is just plain wrong, regardless. Don't think just because this is a forum, it means that you can do whatever you want, God doesn't see things like this, or it's not real, just a forum so don't have to care, I can say whatever I want, do whatever I want. --------------------- tinarhian Tagging you, what do you think? If this is in real life, both of you don't have to be a behave like a bitch about it. We have a German saying, "Taten sagen mehr als worte." It mean "actions speak more than words." Both of you should move from this. I don't want to spend my time reading about all this nonsense on a public forum. If one of you is still bitter, then ask youself why are you still bitter? If Desmond still think UW is a "fake teacher", then explain with proof how is he a fake teacher? Honestly, I didn't know if UW is faking it all this time. Explain in details, don't just say he is a fake teacher. Don't assume or falsely accuse. You know I don't side with anybody. |
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Oct 14 2017, 02:16 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 13 2017, 02:07 PM) I didn't report your recent post, you can verify with the Mods if you don't believe me. See the problem with you, is that you assume, and you know what assume stands for, isn't it? So who the heck reported to the mods? No I did. I've counter the long list of article you took from other writers. Everyone of them and you reported my post. Look, just because you throw the word "Fake Teacher" does not automatically mean the person is a fake teacher. Because if that is true, anyone can simple label something on others and it will be true. That is not how it works in this world. You Got to explain how, in what way, what sentences, which part. You didn't do any of it in your own words. So if you think I'm not being fair, here I am giving you a chance to explain yourself. It should be easy for you to explain since you probably understood every article you took elsewhere. For me I can re-explain if you can provide your refutation. I'll promise you, there will be no deletion since this is a closure for me. It's either you are in error or I am. So go ahead, prove me wrong. Edit: I want closure on this. I honestly dont know what is the issues with both of you. I gathered its about the prosperity gospel, Ukraine Christianity persecution, etc.. Bloody wankers to both of you. Give it a rest la... |
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Oct 14 2017, 10:56 AM
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QUOTE(sylar111 @ Oct 14 2017, 06:13 AM) You mean up to now you do not know what UW is all about? Please, I'm not a noob to support anybody in a public forum. In the real world, for such a remarks, people could consider that as defamation, people could sue one another.I mean come on. I thought you only supported him despite him being what he is all this while since you have already establish a kind of bondage with him. I mean if you cannot even tell what UW is about, then I am pretty shocked because in the real world, scammers are normally not that blatant. Most of the people who frequent the lowyat forum knows exactly what he is like and yet up to now you do not know it. I mean I thought you would have sense it after being here for a while and the only reason why you are still here is because you just want to maintain the relationship with him that's all. Similar to say an outsider who knows that something is wrong but yet is not willing to get involved. In fact you can already tell in that post of his intention. I mean he actually said if this happened in real life, someone may have gotten punched. Do you think someone who is a Christian never mind someone who is supposed to be in Christian leadership should say those kind of things? So is he implying that he does not appreciate people pointing out his faults to him. You mean I have to actually point you the obvious before you actually realized it? So what more does it has to take before you realize the obvious. Ok so its very obvious to you and others. Well, didn't I told you to do something about it? Instead of telling us about it here on a public forum. IDK about Malaysia cyber laws but in the USA, there's a thing called Communications Decency Act Section 230 which protect forum owners. But the immunity is lost when the forum moderator or owner makes a defamatory statement. LOL In Germany the defamation laws are very strict. If you called someone a "Pig" or "Nazi", you will get sued and go to jail. Same goes if a person makes a defamatory remarks online, they can get sued if in Germany. So too bad UW you are not in Germany. LOL Well I'm not on lowyat forum 24/7, nobody got so much time like UW. LOL So even if I know UW is a scammer, fake teacher, etc..I have to gather evidence, etc to confront him in real life, don't I? The only obvious thing is everyone is an online keyboard warrior anyway. LOL |
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Oct 14 2017, 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 14 2017, 08:40 AM) Hi Tina, thanks for your feedback. Maybe Desmond is a young guy in his 20s. Too much hormones. So he need to purge it all out on you. LOLI've already admitted this on my part in post #493, that is Oct 9. Like I said before, I'm not all that adamant to admit I cannot be wrong. But what I refuse to accept is as what you said, for this slanderous label of fake teacher. I've given him a chance to explain himself in his own words how, not pull in article of other people's writing which is completely irrelevant to any of my devotion. There is no connection whatsoever. problem with Desmond is that he rush read my devotion, doesn't read it in detail and straight away spill out "fake teacher", that to me is something very careless of him if not irresponsible. With that being said, if he cannot prove this, then He is certainly not qualify to accuse this any longer. I'm just joking Desmond. I'm just assuming anyway. QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 14 2017, 08:44 AM) Funny thing is, that Ukraine Christianity persecution is meant to and suppose to encourage all our bro n sis in Christ. Dude, so where does last finger go? but instead of seeing that purpose, this desmond guy used to attack the person who post it though not a big issue to really attack. It's usually the case that whenever someone accuse others of "so much hate" it's a big irony of 1 finger pointing at others, while 3 fingers point back to himself. Well IDK how people points at another person in Malaysia, but come to think of it, the thumb is "pointing" at that person too. LOL This post has been edited by tinarhian: Oct 14 2017, 11:06 AM |
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Oct 14 2017, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 9 2017, 08:54 AM) I just want to say something. I think people nowadays lacked empathy or a trigger happy bunch of Talibans. Not accusing anybody here. I'm just making a generalized statement. I think I did nothing wrong. What I posted was correct. Reason why I deleted Desmond2020 post is because I did not want any argument. But then I take it as my fault I didn't give him a chance to voice out his opinion for the reason he tried to cause aggravation the last time hence I take it that he never had any genuine intention for the fellowship but to just trigger others as his per his usual characteristic. You all know I don't personally attack anyone. Many of you do. Let be honest. You make fun of me, you slander me and yet I never retaliate against you. I forgave you. but time and time again, this charade goes on and on and of course I'm human, I can feel discourage at time. It is during my down moments I lack patience. Before I came in, Christian Fellowship was dead. I came in and revive it. We had good time. But some of you never understood for the reason of the fellowship, in fact there are couple of you who question it's purpose you say it's useless. But I noticed it has help some christians who are lost. You want to destroy the fellowship, fine by me. Just know that you are attacking your own brother and sister in Christ. I find that...is something wrong. And you don't realize it. How many years did this Christianity thread started anyway? more than 6 years I assumed. Probably 2 version in one calendar year. LOL Well some people don't know the meaning of "fellowship" anyway. Heck even the LOTR fellowship had issues! |
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Oct 14 2017, 11:18 AM
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Sylar,
FYI, I don't have "bondage" relationship with UW. You know I disagree with him most of the time. LOL Ah you remarked how UW posts were just as when he first started posting on lowyat forum. You do know people changed; either for better or worst. If he's pretending then its between him and God. Come on man, 10 years ago he's probably a badass m@#$. But now (after marriage), he matured and less of a badass? LOL This post has been edited by tinarhian: Oct 14 2017, 11:23 AM |
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Oct 14 2017, 11:39 AM
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I read that there's many top Malaysia scammers involving Nigerians. LOL
I remembered trying to sell off my car; this guy whatsapp me stating that he's interested and all even asked me if I can ship it over to East Malaysia. Come on, don't they have cars in East Malaysia? Bloody wankers want to scam me. I end up giving it to my relative instead. LOL This post has been edited by tinarhian: Oct 14 2017, 11:41 AM |
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Oct 14 2017, 11:46 AM
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Oct 14 2017, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Oct 14 2017, 11:44 AM) Doubt he is that young. LOLThe problem with him is that he thinks BECAUSE this is a forum, he doesn't need to treat others as real human being. In real life nobody talks like this to other people you hardly know. I think it's bad testimony, what more when people know you're a Christian. I think we should be the same person in real life and in a forum, no difference. At least try to be decent in approaching, in talking to people. but if that is the way he talks in real life, then Sorry to say I find that very rude. And I thought Germans are rude. In Malaysia if you honk somebody they flip you the bird. I honked this guy on the road once because he was on the handphone, then I drove slow next to him and flip him the bird as well. I know, not a good Christian behaviour but driving in Malaysia for few years would give you mental stress. LOL |
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Oct 14 2017, 11:57 AM
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Jan 19 2018, 12:04 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 17 2018, 04:15 PM) Fuxion-X is right, as TS I got to be neutral otherwise there will never be an end to arguments between denomination. Ya think? As Such, I will allow ALL Christian denomination discussion, but please be civil guys. You maybe in support of OSAS doctrine or Anti-OSAS, Calvinism or Armenian, whatever it is, you can put forth your view. Everyone's view is welcome, that include Thomasthai, Sylar111 and Also Mr Wong. God Bless. *should have done this long time ago.... I believed it is Paul that confirmed our salvation in 2 Corinthians, 1:21-22 (NIV). Didn't the Bible said that we are saved by faith alone, not by works? |
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Jan 19 2018, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Jan 11 2018, 10:59 PM) Another thing Mr. Wong, don't underestimate what God can do to that transhumanist joker. I believed that for certain individual, it may take short or long term improvement for God to "move" them. Remember people who comes against Christ vehemently may end up being one of the key evangelist. Why do you think he wants to come in here and feel a momentary belonging? Who knows, that is the one part God is nudging him. From my personal exp, it took me awhile to "rediscover" God. I can tell you its not by force or influence by men, but by Holy Spirit itself. Its not something that you can measure or produce in a science lab, its a miracle from God. |
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Jan 19 2018, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(unknown warrior @ Dec 8 2017, 10:53 PM) There are a few things I regret in my life .......one of them....I miss de1929 suda gila banget dong. Aku pun menyesal..gue minta ampun sama Tuhan.Bro de1929 It should have not happened..........to be honest ...I really don't know why things turn out like that. His fight with tinarhian. I wished...I could turn back time and reconcile .........everybody. |
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Jan 20 2018, 12:59 AM
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Oh RC believers, don't get triggered easily. Paul explained that glory belong to God alone, there is no one that can earn salvation based on merit. Who is good enough to earn it? Not you or me. Do we claim the glory for ourselves? No. Only God alone.
If we say that good works are the cause of salvation, then its appealing to men because he wants the glory for himself and its not genuine. How the heck are we truly save if our salvation depend on works? We can't even follow The Ten Commandments one hundred percent yet we strive to achieve salvation on our own merit? Ephesians did not mention that we are saved by good works. Good works is not the cause of salvation either. Of course don't forget genuine salvation is focus more on God! |
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Jan 20 2018, 01:06 AM
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Yeah met a few Armenians expat in Penang while I was in Malaysia. Eastern & Oriental Hotel in Penang was founded by Armenians.
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Jan 21 2018, 10:49 PM) Oh Protestant of unknown flavour, neither did I say works itself merit salvation. But it is certainly not FAITH ALONE. We are saved by his grace through faith in Christ alone, and good works are the evidence of our salvation. Paul and James had different views regarding these faith versus works too. LEL.Salvation is entirely depended on God. "Workmanship" in Greek means what has been made. If there are no change in the life of the believers after salvation, then is that person really truly saved... |
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Isn't hyper grace preachers focused more on charismatic teachings and feel good sermons? The Law is still act as a guide for righteous living. The ceremonial law is no more though.
Hyper grace preachers like to talk about prosperity gospel too. |
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Feb 28 2018, 11:15 PM
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QUOTE(yeeck @ Feb 11 2018, 07:57 PM) Oh no they didn't have different views, else they would have had separated into different sects even back then and not have to wait until 1500 years later for Martin Luther to be born to have such a 'new revelation'. Furthermore, that means you believe that Scripture contradicts one another? Ok I've re-read the views of Paul and James again. No, the scripture does not contradict but both of them complement each other. Because I read English and German translations, its not easy to grasp. St Paul: "And now there remain faith, hope, and charity, these three: but the greatest of these is charity." St James: "What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead." I read the Romans 4:5 again, Paul reminds us to depend on Christ on righteousness. What James says in James 2:24 is that faith which justifies does not remain alone. Is the faith alone that brings us to Christ on righteousness. I need to read more KJV than NIV. Though the former is harder for me to understand. But for RC as yourself, why do you say salvation + merit of works is the way to heaven? RC is based more on traditions and things like the seven sacrements. And of purgatory! What is that all about? It seems to me that Christ death on the cross is still not enough for RC believers to atone one's sins. But man can pay his sins through act of penance. IDK yeeck you say east, I say west. Its like chicken and duck here. |
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QUOTE(Mr. WongSF @ Feb 16 2018, 08:54 AM) Is it not through Jesus that the option for us to be saved. I don't believe in OSAS. If we can be saved, surely we can easily lose our salvation if we are not careful. Yes I don't have time to read. Ah penguin gave that video to me too. |
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