QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 1 2018, 11:06 AM)
what do you mean by salvation + merit of works is the way to heaven. It is faith and works, you can't have one without the other (except if you are a baptized infant that can do no works of faith

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"But without faith it is impossible to please God" - Hebrews 11:6
Good works without having the faith will not do.
RC have the seven sacraments as these are instituted by Christ for believers. If they do not have faith in the sacraments, then no point going to receive these.
As for purgatory, it is not paying for sins.
The sin must be already forgiven (Confession), but the reparation for the damage should still be done. Eg. if you stole something and you have confessed it and forgiven, you are still bound to restitute the stolen amount or do some other penance. Purgatory is where you've died with
forgiven sins but didn't do restitution.
But according to RC, its works of men. We don't know if the works are genuine or otherwise. What I'm referring to is genuine faith in Christ that produces good works.
Again, Protestant don't believe in purgatory. Well it still sound like payment of sins. Then why penance existed? lol
I see it as Catholics can pay their penance either now or during Purgatory.
Hmm, no wonder Sylar is jealous because being a Catholic has many benefits. No offense yeeck.
Just like debts, you need to settle before it is due. You can't settle your debt in the afterlife.
QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 1 2018, 11:51 AM)
I'll reply here when I see false info being posted about Catholics. After all, Catholics are Christians, maybe not to folks like sylar and some others.
"Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude [of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church." - St Ignatius of Antioch (107), Letter to the Smyrnaeans.
Sylar watches a Youtuber which used to hate Catholics. lol. I used to think that the Pope was the false prophet. lol
Well fundametally Catholics believed in eating the bread of Eucharist to be saved. Protestants believed in trusting in Jesus for salvation.
QUOTE(yeeck @ Mar 1 2018, 11:58 AM)
What true colours of RC? The positions are clearly stated if you want to have a church wedding in a Catholic church. I've heard more commonly about other Protestant groups that insist they will only marry fellow church-goers or insist their future spouse to convert. Catholics do not force conversion, but if you want to marry a Catholic, the Church says that you must agree to have the children baptised and brought up as Catholics, plus no abortion & contraception, even if you yourself remain in your own religion for the rest of your life.
Not eating meat (abstinence) is a simple penance that Catholics observe on certains days. Why Fridays you ask? Because Our Lord died on Friday and we commemorate His Passion, not only during each and every Mass, but especially on Fridays.
Abstinence is good. However, these abstinence are human traditions. So do you eat fish instead? Because according to the English definition, meat refer to any flesh.
Seven Day Adventists don't believe in eating pork but then again the Bible didn't say you can't eat pork. That rule is only applicable to the Israelites.
This post has been edited by tinarhian: Mar 1 2018, 10:22 PM