州大臣：市區養燕問題多‧登尋地點闢養燕區

http://mykampung.sinchew.com.my/node/38400?tid=10

To swiftlet breeders from KT,
I intend to build a farm out side of KT town ( low density kampong area ). Will the proposed centralisation farming give any impact to my project ?

Hi, I have just discovered this thread through google even though I have been pretty active in Lowyat.NET for the past 2 years. I am very interested in this industry and is picking up the knowledges from Sifu here before building my BH DIY style.

Here goes my first contribution to this thread:

"如何开拓燕窝市场" 讲座会

马来西亚中华工商联合会 星洲日报 吉隆坡暨雪兰莪中华工商总会 主办 农牧世界 协办

　

日 期 ： 2008年7月12日(星期六)

时 间 ： 上午10时至下午4时30分

地 点 ： 隆雪中华工商总会成枫堂

Ground Floor, Wisma Chinese Chamber

258, Jalan Ampang, 50450 Kuala Lumpur

Tel: 03-42532135

　

主持人：郭隆生先生、王令仲博士、张光明博士

　　　　　　 1. 讲题 (1)：如何開拓中國燕窩市場

　　　　 　主讲者 ：陳勁錠先生

2. 讲题 (2)：燕窩出口指南

　　　　　 主讲者 ： 蔡文泰律師生

3. 讲题 (3)：開拓燕窩市場經驗談

　　　　　 主讲者 ：駱榮富先生

4. 讲题 (4)：燕窩下游工業

　　 主讲者 ：黃祥華先生

5. 讲题 (5)：燕窩業的前景

　 主讲者 ：拿督巴杜卡馬興松

　

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RM100 per person.
I will be attending and hope to meet you guys there.

http://www.chinesechamber.org.my/mainwnc.htm

If i were you, i will avoid investing in commercial shop lot for BH instead of purposed built BH on agri land. There were indications from the local councils to discourage BH in the populated area and the recent statement from Terengganu MB was one good example. The risk is high if the BH is located in the commercial area cos we never know when the local town council want to chase us out due to political reason.
BH is a long term investment, if you have a choice better avoid the risk which is clearly visible before your own eyes.

Wow !!.... what an overreaction from you West Wing. Sorry if i ever stepped on your toe.
Relax Bro....It was just merely my spontaneous personal view responded to long2292 query in open forum.. ..... I did not purposely write a stand alone post with intention to scare off new investor and i am not even from the group of people who wanted to built the so called BH Eco farm. I join this thread simply because I am interested to DIY a small BH my self and learn from all sifus here that is all.

My intention to reply long2292 query was just want to share some of my little info I heard from my BH owner friends from KT that there were people sabotaging town BH owners by hanging banner in KT town area to urge state government to take action against BH owners. Maybe nothing will happen in the next foreseeable future but the political pressure is getting heavier then ever from the non breeders...therefore we can't just look at the bright side only as local council policies changes is a risk in swiflet farming that breeders can not deny.......wait a minute ?? is it wrong or too sensitive to share such info here ?? But the title of this thread is "Swiftlet Farming-EVERYTHING About The Industry" what ?
To all town BH owners, no offence intended. I am just sharing info here in this open forum.


Anyway, I have learn quite a fair bit of swiflet knowledges from your previous posts and including your last post as your mentioned about the disadvantages of BH farming in Kg area and the risk of so called BH Eco park. Thank you for sharing and kudos to thread starter seeseng and all sifus here who were willing to share their experiences in this very tight-mouthed industry. .

About the ultrasound, I did ask this question to CS experts before and they too rejected the claim that it will attract more births. CS said swiflets have more or less the sound hearing ability as human being and what human can't hear, Swiflets can't hear it too. CS advised don't wait money on this method.


Well, to me, you don't sound boosting at all. you are just being truthful in your writing and I respect your willingness to share and help other fellow man and your unselfishness virtue.

To all Sifus
I will be building a 20' x 70' x 11' x 3 storey BH on a agri land soon but still undecided on the design and lay out of the BH.
I would appreciate if you can share your experience and expert opinion in this matter.

Thanks for the feed backs.
Yes, my BH friends also advice me to built the BH wider like 24' if budget is not an issue. My contractor charge me RM34 per sqft (including material and nesting plank), there will be an additional cost of 4' x 70' x 3storey x RM34 = RM28,560.00.
My BH design will adopt the tunnel method that is, a void area (roving area) of 20' x 16' from top floor to ground level at the end of the building. The balance of 20' x 54' x 3 floors will be designated for the nesting area.

Is 20' w x 16' d x 42' h good enough for internal roving area ?
( i have a 20'w x 16'd x 9' h foyer on top of the building for the entrance hole )

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Aug 26 2008, 02:12 PM

Below is the basic sketch of my BH. Please comment or better still, criticise.
To view larger image, click the image then ctrl +


This post has been edited by aeiou228: Aug 27 2008, 02:41 PM

Yes, yes, thank you ! thank you ! Recently one BH owner fell to his death ( tunnel type BH ) in Terengganu. Safety features in my BH will be the main priority.

http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=18071688

Dear West Wing
I read your above posting#1091 with interest and now I have 2nd thought for my yet to build BH side entry hole. If I change to open roof entrance (on top of the tunnel) How can i solve these issues
1) Direct sunlight from top during noon time ?
2) Rain water dispersement ?
3) Tweeters placement to prevent direct rain fall ?

my draft BH design is here:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=19500812

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Aug 28 2008, 09:08 PM

Where is the best location to open the LAL ( Lubang Antara Lantai ) between 2 floors in a 20 x 70 stand alone BH ?
According to Dr E Nugroho of EKA Walet book, the idea place is at the end corner where nesting room entrance hole is at the opposite end. If the LAL is located along the side wall, the birds will tend to fly straight and chances of flying down/up the LAL is lesser. LAL at the corner will force the bird to turn and while turning it is easier for the birds to fly down to the LAL.

Can any experience Sifu here give me suggestion and opinion on this situation ?

Thank you Swift4ever and West Wing for your valuable feed back.

Malay reserved land doesn't really benefit the Malay in terms of monetary gain but in terms of preserving the Malay land, yes indeed.
Malay property developer pay lower price to the Malay reserved land owner because the developed properties on a Malay reserved land fetch lower prices than the free hole titled properties. As a result, you hardly see any Malay reserved area developed into a big township. One good example is Kg Baru located just right in the heart of Kuala Lumpur.

That kind of price is only justifiable for constructing a normal residence house but it will be indeed very expensive for a BH.

Agreed agreed, we don't talk politic, we talk bird here.

I hv these BH questions to ask all sifu,

1) Do I need 3 units hygrostat for a 3 floors BH (20'x70') ?

2) If I do, how is it possible to connect to one water pump to mist spray 3 different floor individually ?

3) If Q 2) is not possible, buying 2 extra hygrostats will be a waste doesn't it ?

Thanks for your opinion, swift4ever.
I plan to have 3 hygrostat for each floor but then I don't know how to connect to one water pump so that it can spray mist individually in each floor according to the respective hygrostat.

Wow.... ! West Wing, this is such a marvellous ideal. I have been squeezing my little brain cells left and right for about a week now to find a solution for this but to no avail.
Well, Thank you Sir, you solved me a problem. As wise old sayings, old ginger is always spicier.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Sep 11 2008, 11:02 PM

Thank you for the lengthy mist spray installation details. Yes, I know the shop in Kg Cina, will go there to do some shopping when my BH completed.

You mean when the required humidity is reached and the Hygrostat shut down the electric flow valve, the water pump wouldn't off simultaneously ?

The above problem can be overcome by fixing a electric flow valve + Hygrostat on each floor main water outlet as suggested by West Wing earlier isn't it ?

Wow....very complicated. Is there any 'wonder valve' just fix before the water inlet of the pump that can do this wonder..... no water supply, pump wouldn't power on even thought Hygrostat trigger the electric flow valve to open the water flow in the pipe ?

Aaaik... then might as well use 3 water pump for 3 floors ?? back to square one again.

I have visited almost all the swiflets blogs and web sites in Malaysia and Indonesia and my preference is here in LYN. Why ? Because unlike Blog, I can post questions here and there are so many sifus here are willing to share their experiences in swiflet farming with you without expecting anything in return. The sifu here are mostly experience BH rancher themselves and off course some of them are part time consultant.
Swiftbuild, Harry, Pak henmulia, W.O.S.G are some of my favourite blog sites that worth reading and I really appreciate these bloggers who are willing to share their knowledges and pictures in swiflet farming to all of us.

This post has been edited by aeiou228: Sep 15 2008, 06:10 PM

Guys, I have a piece of Agri land in Kuala Terengganu. Can build several stand alone BHs. The land is right below the flying path of Swiflets. Any one interested to JV please PM me.