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V1. Swiftlet Keeping-EVERYTHING About The Industry, Techniques, Tips, Tricks, Complaints etc
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crazybird
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Jan 3 2008, 12:18 AM
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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Jan 2 2008, 01:46 PM) Below are the correct http.
Harry's Blog , http://swiftletfarming.blogspot.com/
Sky nest's Blog, http://diyswiftletfarming.blogspot.comPls visit these site. Thanks Hi swiftbuild, Happy new year to you all and a properous new year... Sky nest .....i think you owe everyone a sincere apology and stop posting ....if you do not want anyone to copy cat you ...want to share but scare... KIA SU PPL... YOU ARE ALSO CHARGING PPL FOR YOUR RM 3000..SO WHY HARRY CAN'T.....?.... HMMMM!swiftbuild ..this guy are talking about himself...as again...beware..of what skynest doing.....he is still learning ... Bad new year to you skynest.....ur blog should be stop immediately and post adult side..dont play play...he no nothing..unfamous in malaysia and only singapore... Ryan ..thanks for your info and seeseng my consultant charge me eveything for RM 28K.
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crazybird
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Jan 5 2008, 06:28 AM
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Thnks for the info, swiftbuild
can i ask if the wood still got litle bit of wood smell..issit ok and how do i get it off and what actually is the recommened size for planks and what is the keenel dog entrance hole and style? Please pm me if anyone can assists me. Thanks in advanced.
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TSseeseng
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Jan 5 2008, 01:40 PM
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QUOTE(crazybird @ Jan 5 2008, 06:28 AM) Thnks for the info, swiftbuild can i ask if the wood still got litle bit of wood smell..issit ok and how do i get it off and what actually is the recommened size for planks and what is the keenel dog entrance hole and style? Please pm me if anyone can assists me. Thanks in advanced. Meranti wood sure got little bit of wood smell. A lot less smell than other wood. As long as it's odourless no big deal. Normally hand-sawed parts will have a bit of burnt smell. Most commonly use plank size is 1'x6' Isn't your consultant "pao" everything? For town shoplots nowadays not recommended to use DK entrance lah. Later enforcing license very high chance they won't approve.
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Tirokswifts
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Jan 10 2008, 02:08 PM
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Hi,
I am new to this Forum. Let me introduce myself. I am Tirokswifts from KT, a newbie in swiftlet farming. I am proud that my kampung friends like Seeseng, Kent KT and Jef are actively participating in this forum and they are all knowledgable. I wish to take part in this forum and one day form a team to help each other and others who are interested in swiftlet farming to set up their farm. Though we are staying in the same town I have not me you all personally. I am working near the Waterfront. Seeseng If you look from the waterfront jetty. On the right is your birdhouse and on the left, the tall building is my work site. We could have met but only that we didn't know each others name. Hope to meet all of you and form a DIY Swiftlet Club in KT.
This post has been edited by Tirokswifts: Jan 10 2008, 10:52 PM
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swifbuild
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Jan 10 2008, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(Tirokswifts @ Jan 10 2008, 02:08 PM) Hi, I am new to this Forum. Let me introduce myself. I am Tirokswifts from KT, a newbie in swiftlet farming. I am proud that my kampung friends like Sengseng, Kent KT and Jef are actively participating in this forum and they are all knowledgable. I wish to take part in this forum and one day form a team to help each other and others who are interested in swiftlet farming to set up their farm. Though we are staying in the same town I have not me you all personally. I am working near the Waterfront.Seeseng If you look from the waterfront jetty. On the right is your birdhouse and on the right, the tall building is my work site. We could have met but only that we didn't know each others name. Hope to met all of you and form a DIY Swiftlet Club in KT. Welcome, I have seen yr blog, birds started to build nest in yr farm already. Its a good start. Yr site is very interesting. Regards Swifbuild
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walet.funny
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Jan 10 2008, 06:36 PM
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Hi all swiftlet farmers here... I also come to know of this site recently. I am a newbie too.. read all posts back to front a few times during the new year holidays + some other individual blogs too; such as Tirokswifts', Harry's + Sky Nest's blogs. I must admit I picked up useful tips here and there. So Tirok.. seem to know you already through your blog. This blog started very well but at some stage.. some got very personal.. and temperature gone up. Seem it never end here and episodes after episodes continues to play out day after day on other stages. Ah ya.. why so serious lah? Swiftlet ranching is a serious business no doubt. Take it easy a little bit and have a laugh some time lah. So I start a Swiftlet's blog at http://swiftletshumor.blogspot.com/Not a serious blogs.. just to look back and have a laugh  )
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zmyeo54
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Jan 10 2008, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Jan 10 2008, 03:41 PM) Welcome, I have seen yr blog, birds started to build nest in yr farm already. Its a good start. Yr site is very interesting. Regards Swifbuild Feel free to drop in http://www.freewebs.com/tirokswifletConstructive critcism appreciated This post has been edited by zmyeo54: Jan 10 2008, 10:08 PM
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Tirokswifts
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Jan 10 2008, 09:43 PM
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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Jan 10 2008, 03:41 PM) Welcome, I have seen yr blog, birds started to build nest in yr farm already. Its a good start. Yr site is very interesting. Regards Swifbuild Swifbuild Thanks for your compliments. Sky Nest had also given negative comments to my farm and what I can say is that he is arrogant. He called others as CON-sultant dan what is he then?. He is still attacking Harry and accusing Harry of doing this and that. I don't think Harry has any bad intentions being such an accomodating person in his blog. Added on January 10, 2008, 11:05 pmSeeseng, My web site has a photo album of KT birdhouse. Is the blue dog kennel entrance which i mentioned in the Kg. China photo belongs to you Does this picture shows your birdhouse?This post has been edited by Tirokswifts: Jan 10 2008, 11:34 PM
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TSseeseng
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Jan 11 2008, 03:36 AM
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QUOTE(Tirokswifts @ Jan 10 2008, 09:43 PM) Swifbuild Thanks for your compliments. Sky Nest had also given negative comments to my farm and what I can say is that he is arrogant. He called others as CON-sultant dan what is he then?. He is still attacking Harry and accusing Harry of doing this and that. I don't think Harry has any bad intentions being such an accomodating person in his blog. Added on January 10, 2008, 11:05 pmSeeseng, My web site has a photo album of KT birdhouse. Is the blue dog kennel entrance which i mentioned in the Kg. China photo belongs to you Does this picture shows your birdhouse?That's not mine. Heard from words of mouths that Tengku Besar of TG is one of the partner of that BH. Your work site should be the Felda building lah if not mistaken. Although never met personally I think I've seen you before at coffee shop opposite Kg.Cina temple. Were you with Mr. Thay L.K. yesterday at opposite The Store coffee shop discussing infrared CCTV? No need to bother by somebody's negative comments. Not all he said are right. Well.... some are right. Someone who said it was a waste of time reading this forum since 19th July 2007 but still keep reading until today. Only make a fool out of himself. No matter how knowledgable you are. There are still things you do not know and possibly a newbie know. We're just human who doesn't make mistakes?
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Tirokswifts
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Jan 11 2008, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE(seeseng @ Jan 11 2008, 03:36 AM) That's not mine. Heard from words of mouths that Tengku Besar of TG is one of the partner of that BH. Your work site should be the Felda building lah if not mistaken. Although never met personally I think I've seen you before at coffee shop opposite Kg.Cina temple. Were you with Mr. Thay L.K. yesterday at opposite The Store coffee shop discussing infrared CCTV? No need to bother by somebody's negative comments. Not all he said are right. Well.... some are right. Someone who said it was a waste of time reading this forum since 19th July 2007 but still keep reading until today. Only make a fool out of himself. No matter how knowledgable you are. There are still things you do not know and possibly a newbie know. We're just human who doesn't make mistakes?  The place I work is correct but the person you saw is not me. We will meet one day. Waterfront Food Court which you use to drink was started by my friends and I used to be there but not that often now . Yesterday, after 3 months and 27 days starting the music, I got about 200 birds going in and staying overnight. Last week when I went into the farm, I counted one well-formed nest (no eggs yet) and 3 base nests, all at the joint between straight and corner plank. Is this a good figure for a new standalone farm where the next farm is about 2km away (at Pantai Ali). This farm belongs to my wife's family. I have just JV with a friend to buy a piece of land near to this farm and we intend to set up a standlone farm. We want this to be unique in the sense that they are environment friendly and the most economical. I would really like to get DIY people like you, Jef and Kent KT involve in this project. What do you think about this proposal?. Terengganu is a city now and we must have the city mentality. There is a Mind Festival organised by the State Goverment coming up next week at the TTC and attending the seminars is free . So let us show TERENGGANU BOLEH and Impian Menjadi Realiti. This post has been edited by Tirokswifts: Jan 11 2008, 01:15 PM
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kent kt
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Jan 11 2008, 10:20 AM
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QUOTE(Tirokswifts @ Jan 10 2008, 09:43 PM) Swifbuild Thanks for your compliments. Sky Nest had also given negative comments to my farm and what I can say is that he is arrogant. He called others as CON-sultant dan what is he then?. He is still attacking Harry and accusing Harry of doing this and that. I don't think Harry has any bad intentions being such an accomodating person in his blog. Added on January 10, 2008, 11:05 pmSeeseng, My web site has a photo album of KT birdhouse. Is the blue dog kennel entrance which i mentioned in the Kg. China photo belongs to you Does this picture shows your birdhouse?I also heard it is own by TG and jv with a person name Teo.
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kohloh
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Jan 11 2008, 10:38 AM
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QUOTE(Tirokswifts @ Jan 11 2008, 08:22 AM) The place I work is correct but the person you saw is not me. We will meet one day. Waterfront Food Court which you use to drink was started by my friends and I used to be there but not that often now . Yesterday, after 3 months and 27 days starting the music, I got about 200 birds going in and staying overnight. Last week when I went into the farm, I counted one well-formed nest (no eggs yet) and 3 base nests, all at the joint between straight and corner plank. Is this a good figure for a new standalone farm where the next farm is about 2km away (at Pantai Ali). This farm belongs to my wife's family. I have just JV with a friend to buy a piece of land near to this farm and we intend to set up a standlone farm. We want this to be unique in the sense that they are environment friendly and the most economical. I would really like to get DIY people like you, Jef, Kent KT and Waletandy from Dungun (he is active in SMC but yet to show his presence here) involve in this project. What do you think about this proposal?. Terengganu is a city now and we must have the city mentality. There is a Mind Festival organised by the State Goverment coming up next week at the TTC and attending the seminars is free . So let us show TERENGGANU BOLEH and Impian Menjadi Realiti. Tirok,jangan hari hari gi ambil gambar gedung orang lain & post kat sini,bahaya ni,banyak yg belaku skrg kamu orang tak tahu.nanti problems comes up the menyesal banyak segi yg serdang meniti kegiatan kita skrg Attached thumbnail(s)
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TSseeseng
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Jan 11 2008, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(kohloh @ Jan 11 2008, 10:38 AM) Tirok,jangan hari hari gi ambil gambar gedung orang lain & post kat sini,bahaya ni,banyak yg belaku skrg kamu orang tak tahu.nanti problems comes up the menyesal banyak segi yg serdang meniti kegiatan kita skrg Actually these are things in my mind when I first saw the blog. No offence just my personal opinion we should at least get the farm owner's consent to post their photos publicly. Many may not like to be exposed publicly. Quite some words of mouths going around those "people" intend to so "something" law by law sooner or later. With the "city" name now even a bigger concern. We have to be extra coutious. KT qualify to be city or not you know I know lah.
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swifbuild
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Jan 11 2008, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE(Tirokswifts @ Jan 10 2008, 09:43 PM) Swifbuild Thanks for your compliments. Sky Nest had also given negative comments to my farm and what I can say is that he is arrogant. He called others as CON-sultant dan what is he then?. He is still attacking Harry and accusing Harry of doing this and that. I don't think Harry has any bad intentions being such an accomodating person in his blog. Added on January 10, 2008, 11:05 pmSeeseng, My web site has a photo album of KT birdhouse. Is the blue dog kennel entrance which i mentioned in the Kg. China photo belongs to you Does this picture shows your birdhouse?Good to have yr reply. Like I had said b4 we are here to contribute not pick and criticis others. You see no matter what he said that yr farm was done wrongly yet in a month yr farm has nests already. It shows that he was wrong.
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Tirokswifts
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Jan 11 2008, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(swifbuild @ Jan 11 2008, 06:04 PM) Good to have yr reply. Like I had said b4 we are here to contribute not pick and criticis others. You see no matter what he said that yr farm was done wrongly yet in a month yr farm has nests already. It shows that he was wrong. I did not post the photos publicly. It is in my web site photo album Say what if I take photographs of KT town and put up in the net. Do I have to ask all the building owners whose building appear in my photos for permission. Their buildings or shops are also valuable. Those birdhouses are so glaringly different and anyone who passes by know that they are birdhouses. There's nothing to hide. What I am showing are more academic to me. I am trying to show the various types of birdhouses. I didn't mentioned names though I have hinted a few who is the owner. No all are the same. We should be proud that KT have so many birdhouses like I am proud that we have knowledgeable people like you in who is leading the discussion on swiftlet farming in Lowyat.NET. The same goes with construction of the birdhouse. The so called experts are saying this and that, can and cannot, but in the end the losers are those who followed them blindly. Some are successful and so some are not. Sometimes it is not because of the so-called experts but it is what the Indonesians called Hok Ki that bring success. Most of the time success will come with logic, common sense and practicality. This industry is still evolving and there are still a lot to learn about the behavior and lifestyles of swiftlets. For example, the recent article on swiftlets in Indonesia being domesticated in enclosed farm defy all known facts. Lets be humble about it. There is nothing personal about it. To make swiftlet farming an industry we must be bold enough to face the authorities, not to antagonise the government but to work clsoely with them. Of course we must put our house in order first. We must comply with the requirements set by the authorities. The authorities have to protect the public and they have to make sure that the public are not affected by this swiftlet farming activities before they issue or implement any licenses. I feel the guidelines given by the authorities as posted in a few blogs including Harry's Blog are reasonable. We are now in a billion dollar industry and we cannot be like the mafia or crooks hiding. We must come face to face with the authorities and we must educate them if we need to. I understand that Dato' TTS is heading the Persstuan Walit in KT and hope he can help to legalise swiftlet farming in the state. So far, the rules and regulations are not out yet but I understand is coming soon. No hide-hide one in this businesslah. When in trouble with the authorities want the YB to help bail out pulak. Mana bolih ini macam. Takut orang tahu tapi nak mintak tolong pulak. This is always the case. This post has been edited by Tirokswifts: Jan 11 2008, 11:43 PM
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TSseeseng
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Jan 11 2008, 10:08 PM
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QUOTE(kent kt @ Jan 11 2008, 10:20 AM) I also heard it is own by TG and jv with a person name Teo. Woot~ if you mention Teo then I know who already. Whole family of Teos very close to Tg. B. Just my personal humble opinion if something can be found at the first page search results of Yahoo or Google by using keywords "Kuala Terengganu swiftlet farm" to me it's consider public since internet has no border. Can be viewed globally unless the content is limited to members only or with password retriction.  Of course town farms got nothing to hide. The authorities is the main problem. Throughout Malaysia how many % of the application for license got rejected? Farmers and associations didn't educate them enaugh? Will state authorities follow the federal guidelines? Even the authority from Sitiawan said the federal guidelines is not suitable to follow by them. In future who knows will there be thing like Manjung Eco Park to be constructed here. This post has been edited by seeseng: Jan 11 2008, 10:30 PM
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izaman
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Jan 12 2008, 02:44 AM
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hi guys. i'm new to this thread. actually i am searching for a business because i already get bored with my job and i could not live like that for another 29 years. i would like to know more about swiftlet farming.
is there any swiftlet farmer from selangor or specifically puchong here? i would like to see more about theswiftlet farming. thanks in advance guys.
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Tirokswifts
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Jan 12 2008, 09:07 AM
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Go and meet Harry. He will be able to help you. For details visit this web site, http://swiftletfarming.blogspot.com/. Do I need Harry's permission since I saw a lot of people are so sensitive when it comes to swiftlet farming.??
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