Hi Weihow,

I'm not sure about the types of potions that nestech sells. All the while I've just been using the CS mating potion and I've found that almost all the baby swiftlets that were born in my farm continued to return every day. Kinda afraid to rock the boat by trying anything new, if you know what I mean.

The timetable that Crystal Swiftlets provided me is that from Jan to May, spraying the potion will help to retain the new baby swifts in my farm while spraying the potion in the 2nd half of the year will help to retain the visiting baby and adult swifts from other farms that fly into your farm to play during the day. The theory is that once these visiting swiftlets get used to the smell of the mating potions by playing inside of your farm, they will find it unfamiliar to stay in their own farms and subsequently migrate to yours.

From my own personal limited experience, the potion truly works. But the drawback is, it costs quite a lot of money. However, I don't mind paying to keep my farms competitive, just take the money out from the sales of edible birds nests. Better to spend a bit than to lose my swiftlets to others. In the end, I may end up spending (losing) more, kinda like penny wise pound foolish.

Thanks for Dr. Chris' link, seeseng. Will check it out later. But they ask questions in order to join? Like what? Will give it a try and report back.

regards,
Sam

After you join the group Dr. Chris will personally email you. Asking your're existing swiftlet farmer or owner of his book. What kind of question they asked u for verification? For me since I'm not yet both so I just purchase the book directly from him. If you haven't owned the book you may buy from him. RM79.90 including postage to anywhere within Malaysia. It's a good book. Try to ask for 10% discount as after I joined the forum I read that he gave 10% discount for forum members. It's better than Crystal's Complete Introductory Guide. Yeah I just bought "The Complete Introductory Guide for Swiftlet Farming" E-Book last night and finished reading it within an hour.

hi everyone i am new here.i am just wondering how much to build up 1 swiftlet farming, and does it need a lot people to take care of it?

i heard someone said after you have collected all your nest you need to clean it again is it true? and can u guys sharing what are the problem you facing doing this biz..

they ask me 3 questions... i forgot 2 questions oledi... but one of it is "what is the first word in page 68..."

Hi...

First of all... i would suggest you to get a own shoplot.
I dunno how much it will charge for other state, but in kuantan, is roughly bout 30k per floor... no need alot of ppl to take care but is very tedious to get a license.

Yes... you can clean it if you wanna directly import to china, HK or SG or u can sell to those middleman...

Where are you from?

i am from johor,actually my parent have plan to do this few years ago,but when they go to pinang,1 of his friend telling him that it is not cheap to build a swiftlet farming.

is it everyshop have birdnest or we need to choose the shop lot.that guy also telling us better we own our own shop,if we dun own our own shop our owner for sure won't sign contract v us anymore and he is something like taking over our biz.

30k per floor is juz renovation or buying that floor+renovating?

I see, he wants to verify that you bought his book or not lah. Are you going to buy his book? RM79.90 possibly got 10% discount. BTW first word in page 68 is "Meranti" I just added a link to an Indonesian forum Klub Peternak Walet The link is at my first post.

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Added on April 12, 2007, 2:35 amThere are lots of things to be done before you set up a fam. First of all before you buy or rent a shop lot for swiftlet farming. You have to observe other swiftlet farms nearby. Observe the swiftlet quantity in that area. Use a few tweeters to play swiftlet external chirping sound on the roof top to see how many swiftlet you can gather. Decide to use the lot from the results. The preparation for the grand opening never comes cheap if you hire consultant or consultant companies. Bear in mind that not many consultants do well. Some consultants provide joint-venture service where you don't have to pay them but they will share the profit from your harvest for up to 20 years. Alternatively if you're daring enaugh you can do most of the job DIY. That's what I'm doing now. Because my under constrution farm has only 32' x 19 nesting area exclude roving area and entrace hole. Not worth it to hire consultant. Most of them charge RM5K to RM10K for advice only. I know a few farmers from outstation that renting shop lots in my area for swiftlet farming. Majority of farmers still own the shop lots themselves.

This post has been edited by seeseng: Apr 12 2007, 11:13 AM

seeseng... just now i try to go in www.sinchew.com.my
under the "east coast news"... i saw something regarding to swiftlet farming in terengganu. I try to go in but the link broken.
It's something like licensing issue....

I've read that. Nothing new. Election coming. "Moon clan" flaming Bee Anne for ignoring licensing issue on swiftlet farms. For many years authorities haven't decide how much fee to imply so until now still no need license yet. Later need license just pay them lah.

This post has been edited by seeseng: Apr 12 2007, 01:56 PM


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sifu'S~~~ hahaha i nees some help guys i have 1 farm on for roughly a year now helping to take care of it now but seems that there are still no nest's inside but they seems to fly in n out of the place. any ideas on making it to work ??? darn i just got the thermometer reading inside its 34 hahaha any solutions ??? really need u guys advice, uncles breeding at that area just kept their mouth shut when asking for some advice ish~


i think i need those auto-hydrometer which turns on the humidifier auto to maintain the humidity inside plus iis there any way to control the temp inside ??? seriously need advice man haha oh yea those things cost how much







This post has been edited by hypEr_mad: Apr 12 2007, 11:06 PM

There are many reasons swiftlet test out your place and dislike to stay in it.
1) Too hot or too cold. ideal 27-30 degree
2) Too dry or too humid. ideal 75-90% RH
3) Too dark or too bright. ideal 2-3 lux
4) Presence of predators. (Even rat dropping smell will scare them)
4) Wrong chirping sound. Too loud / too many tweeters / bad quality tweeters.
5) Wrong material of nesting planks / no grooves on planks.
6) Poorly design entrance
7) Presence of chemical smell
8) Internal air pressure results of not enaugh ventilation holes
34 degree max is very high. Your farm is concrete or wooden? The roof is tiles/zinc/asbestos? Need to know these to come out with solutions. Normally to reduce heat you need to install heat dissipitation turbine to draw out hot air from inside the farm. Or install 12" exhaust fan (with grills on both sides) to draw out hot air. Turbine type is silence operation. Is the humidity enaugh?
The device to auto on/off humidifier that trigger on humidity level is call hygrostat or humidistat. I'm still searching for that up and down. There's one supplier selling and I think the price is too high. RM550 for one sucks model that with internal sensor with range of +-15% that sucks. Another good model with external sensor that can screw to nesting plank for best result and range of 1%. That's perfect. But price at RM850. Bummer. So I'm still seaching from other sources now. You can still use timer switch to control humidifier but would fail its purpose on rainy days. Are you using chicken farm humidifier? It's better to wrap it with sound reduction jacket. If you're going to do renovation in the farm remember to off chirping sound better still close the entrance.

This post has been edited by seeseng: Apr 13 2007, 04:21 AM

seeseng... who snap the pic? where was it? and how come got this kind of "blood nest"??? very rare one wor....

thanks man will try to get the above mention details to ya soon
very helpful

That pic I took from Dr. Chris forum. But poster doesn't give any info about the pic. Don't quite like the forum style. Cannot attach anything in typing posts. To upload files there's another section where all the files uploaded there but no info at all. I heard the Indonesian already can produce "blood nest" in swiftlet farms but the formula still remain a secret.

anyone of you mind to sharing 1kg of nest is how much or not?i know different quality got difference price.

i heard someone told me 1kg of nest can cost RM3.5k is it true?


i am a newbie about this industry,if i want to employ someone to renovate my place + consult me until make place got nest,how much will it cost? is there so call consultant market price in this industry?

This post has been edited by GameMonster: Apr 13 2007, 10:32 PM

According to "Complete Introductory Guide to Swiftlet Farming"
In 2006, white edible birds nests were being sold by swiftlet farmers in Malaysia at around RM4300 to RM6500 per kilogram, depending on the quality of the nests sold.
In 2006, whilte edible birds nests that have been processed and sold by retailers to consumers in Hong Kong averaged around RM21500 to RM25000 per kilogram.
That's according to book. Maybe you need to ask Sam for the per kilogram price.
Currently there are many swiftlet farming consultant companies out there. You can survey around. Among those famous are Nest Tech, Crystal Swiftlets etc.

This post has been edited by seeseng: Apr 13 2007, 11:26 PM

wow....what a good business with very very good future.

It's not so simple. Investment is high, failure rate is as high as 50%-70%. Many not fail but fairly passed with poor results. But if after a year your farm is successful, the future is very bright.

This post has been edited by seeseng: Apr 14 2007, 05:01 PM

Latest Update:

Last saturday my swiftlet hse pipe leak... so i go in and repair and then go and have a count on the shit....

so far my swiftlet has operate for 9 weeks and i have more than 30 piles of shit + 4-5 nest base.

Is the result good?

seeseng... regarding on this hygrostat, now i have to consider it oledi...haha

few questions here...
- Where can i get it?
- How to use? details...

Thanks man