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post Mar 24 2007, 02:30 PM, updated 19y ago

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Was gonna buy the tamron sp 90 next, then replace my 18-70mm with the 18-200mm VR but im wondering if I should just dump my 18-70mm now for the sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 since I've already got the tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 and the sigma can work as my macro lens temporarily. Or should I get the sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 instead of the 50-150mm? damn kau lots of choices out there shakehead.gif but I definitely will pick up the 90mm tamron later rclxms.gif

I'm contemplating whether the VR is needed since I've already got a monopod for the lens.

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post Mar 24 2007, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Mar 24 2007, 02:30 PM)
Was gonna buy the tamron sp 90 next, then replace my 18-70mm with the 18-200mm VR but im wondering if I should just dump my 18-70mm now for the sigma 50-150mm f/2.8 since I've already got the tamron 17-50mm f/2.8 and the sigma can work as my macro lens temporarily. Or should I get the sigma 70-200mm f/2.8 instead of the 50-150mm? damn kau lots of choices out there  shakehead.gif but I definitely will pick up the 90mm tamron later  rclxms.gif

I'm contemplating whether the VR is needed since I've already got a monopod for the lens.
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get the 70-200 f2.8. u wont regret doing so.
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post Mar 25 2007, 05:50 AM

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actually yeah, i've been convinced to get the 70-200mm, and get a 28-80/105mm to fill in the gap. Now the million dollar question is whether I should go with sigma or nikon's non vr version. the nikon is tad slower and around RM30-40 more expensive after adding the hood. I'd like the faster focus speed on the sigma but im a little worried about getting a crap sample from sigma...seems to be pretty common with sigma products.
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QUOTE(scotty @ Mar 24 2007, 05:58 PM)
get the 70-200 f2.8. u wont regret doing so.
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I also say the original 70-200 f2.8, be it Canon white one or Nikon black one
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post Mar 26 2007, 08:19 AM

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the decision is hard....the nikon 80-200mm is slow, focus dependent on body...gonna be pretty slow on my D50, and apparetly the AF/M switch screws up easily.

The sigma is fast, but at f2.8 it is relatively soft compared to the nikon, but at f4 it best even the vr version...sweat.gif well according to reviews of course. Really dunno which to get, they are about the same price
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post Mar 26 2007, 08:41 AM

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You'll be losing the 200mm end. Get the Nikkor one smile.gif
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post Mar 26 2007, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(nairud @ Mar 25 2007, 09:41 PM)
You'll be losing the 200mm end. Get the Nikkor one smile.gif
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how am I losing the 200mm end? they are both 70/80 - 200mm...and both are relatively soft @ 200mm
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post Mar 26 2007, 09:37 AM

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huh?? i thought i saw that you wanted the 50-150mm f2.8 previously
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QUOTE(nairud @ Mar 25 2007, 10:37 PM)
huh?? i thought i saw that you wanted the 50-150mm f2.8 previously
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yup, but i said in post 3 i will be getting the 70-200mm smile.gif it's just a matter of sigma vs nikon. hmm.gif I think photozone says that the nikon focus fast on the D200...don't know how it fairs with mine...all I know is it is slower than the sigma, and all other AF-S lenses
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Mar 26 2007, 09:58 AM)
yup, but i said in post 3 i will be getting the 70-200mm smile.gif it's just a matter of sigma vs nikon.  hmm.gif I think photozone says that the nikon focus fast on the D200...don't know how it fairs with mine...all I know is it is slower than the sigma, and all other AF-S lenses
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Nothing is better than the original lens, Nikkor. besides dont tell me you're gonna stick with your D50 for life right? The body is a consumable already. Lens are here to stay.

it depends on your budget also tongue.gif

You should engrave this in your mind: Old lens dont go, New lens wont come.

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post Mar 26 2007, 10:32 AM

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Nah I won't be sticking with the D50 for long...I'm missing the vertical shutter release already. The Nikkor is not really better than the sigma, they are both good but at different aperture. My budget? even I dunno my own budget tongue.gif but as far as the two lenses are concerned, the are similar in pricing...sigma will be a little cheaper, but also faster and newer tongue.gif
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Mar 26 2007, 08:19 AM)
the decision is hard....the nikon 80-200mm is slow, focus dependent on body...gonna be pretty slow on my D50, and apparetly the AF/M switch screws up easily.

The sigma is fast, but at f2.8 it is relatively soft compared to the nikon, but at f4 it best even the vr version...sweat.gif well according to reviews of course. Really dunno which to get, they are about the same price
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i dont think the nikkor is that that slow. i also dont think u can go wrong with either smile.gif
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Some say they can't take moving objects with the nikkor....dunno what body they using, and i've read alot about AF-S is faster than the nikkor, hands down....as far as optics, they are both very good....all depends on whether you get a good sample or not anyway...even leica doesnt make perfect lens...I'm gonna call and see if they carry it locally...wanna see if those ppl are exaggerating the speed or what not..
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Mar 26 2007, 12:23 PM)
Some say they can't take moving objects with the nikkor....dunno what body they using, and i've read alot about AF-S is faster than the nikkor, hands down....as far as optics, they are both very good....all depends on whether you get a good sample or not anyway...even leica doesnt make perfect lens...I'm gonna call and see if they carry it locally...wanna see if those ppl are exaggerating the speed or what not..
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ages ago, lens were slower and still people could do it. af-s only makes it much much easier smile.gif i use a lens slower than the nikkor, i think it's possible to take moving objects.
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I've been browsing pbase for sample pictures....they both take very good pictures, I think if the copy is good, both would work very well and the final result will be dependent mostly on the photographer than the lens itself. I'll probably go with the sigma, and hopefully I get a good copy smile.gif

edit: btw, where do you guys usually buy lenses in msia? what is the best price for the sigma in msia? shashinki has it for RM4k+ ohmy.gif

I'm deciding whether I should go for:

-Gray market - 1 year international warranty + 1 yr credit card insurance - RM2522 (total 2 years warranty)

-Gray market + 7 years mack warranty + 1 yr credit card insurance = RM2619 (total 7 years warranty, 2nd year CC warranty overlaps Mack warranty)

-Sigma Canada market - 10 years sigma warranty + 1 yr credit card insurance = RM3672 (total 11 years warranty)

which is a better buy? icon_question.gif *about RM100 extra per year*

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post Mar 26 2007, 03:16 PM

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oh yeah... one thing famous with 3rd party lenses esp sigma is that they're using a 3rd party focusing chip or something like that... so they'll just slap that chip onto the lens and voila, shipped out. they're not like canon and nikon where they have their own chip.

test out properly first b4 taking out that plastic of yours smile.gif i forgot where did i came across that article already
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QUOTE(nairud @ Mar 26 2007, 04:16 AM)
oh yeah... one thing famous with 3rd party lenses esp sigma is that they're using a 3rd party focusing chip or something like that... so they'll just slap that chip onto the lens and voila, shipped out. they're not like canon and nikon where they have their own chip.

test out properly first b4 taking out that plastic of yours smile.gif i forgot where did i came across that article already
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yeah biggrin.gif I emailed sigma about it. The old version's chip is not compatible with D200 and they offered firmware upgrade for those lenses FOC....i asked them if all the new macro version comes with latest firmware.
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QUOTE(nairud @ Mar 26 2007, 10:28 AM)
Nothing is better than the original lens, Nikkor. besides dont tell me  you're gonna stick with your D50 for life right? The body is a consumable already. Lens are here to stay.

it depends on your budget also tongue.gif

You should engrave this in your mind: Old lens dont go, New lens wont come.

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I don't have one single nikkor lens yet.. biggrin.gif
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Get the nikkor, less compatibility issues in the long term. 3rd party lenses if they don't update the chip, the thing can act up.. mine acts up with F-- error whenever i plop on the sb600 with it, without the flash its completely fine. Cleaning contacts etc all doesnt solve it.
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QUOTE(AlamakLor @ Mar 26 2007, 03:20 PM)
yeah biggrin.gif I emailed sigma about it. The old version's chip is not compatible with D200 and they offered firmware upgrade for those lenses FOC....i asked them if all the new macro version comes with latest firmware.
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they got some bug defect on the ealier batch. what is the problem like? exif file all screwed up? focusing?

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