Singapore has started selling this tyre. Anyone started selling this on our side?

The Malaysian website doesn't have it yet so probably not yet except from individual direct importers.

This seller in singapore listed it in their website :
http://kimhoeco.com/product/continental-pr...-6-2354018-95y/

The price seems good, even better with the discount coupon code. Wonder how the price will be translated when it arrives on our shore.

Feel tempted to get it change there as my very own Christmas present half a year later

What size are you using? If the price is close to PS4, I'd suggest better go with PS4.

225/45/R18 or 235/40/R18.

I salivate for the PS4, but I don't really mind trading a little bit of performance for more comfort and a little more thread life in the CPC6. Not to forget that need to fork out about 20% extra compared to CPC6.

My main target is the Dunlop Sportmaxx RT2. Loved the thread and the surface design, the tyre label ratings also seemed very good. But seems like Dunlop is not releasing this sleeper in the region. Even singapore still stuck with version 1. I know can order, but don't want to risk a blowout without a quick replacement available. At least i have the feeling that CPC6 will have greater likeliness to be launched here rather than the RT2.

Better stick to 225/45/18 coz much more common size so cheaper, and slightly more comfortable coz taller sidewall too.

I doubt CPC6 will last longer than PS4, probably about the same lifetime at best. Because usually Continental high performance tires have a bit lower tread wear rating (280). Usually Continental tires are expensive too (especially those good ones made in Europe) but yeah if it's really 20% cheaper then should be a good option to try. Other good option if you want comfort in a high performance tires is the new F1A3 becasue it's the quietest but I also doubt it's cheaper coz they're still made in Germany.

Yup, unfortunately here in Malaysia nobody sells the RT series! Maybe because here the Dunlop brand is under Continental and it will clash with the CSC series hence they don't import them. It's also a good tire that I wanted to try but cannot get one. It will not last long though coz tread wear rating is only 240 which is even less than CSC5.

I will try CPC6 if it's 20% cheaper than PS4.

I did consider F1A3, but looking at the price, i'm not so keen anymore as the CPC6 seemed to excel more than the F1A3 generally.

From this review, the CPC6 seems to have wear characteristics improved pretty well :
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...r-Tyre-Test.htm

Some time ago when the PS4 was launched, michelin's uk website have a comparison webpage with a few counterparts. It excelled in all except for wear against the F1A3. But seems like the page was replaced. Under the test above, the F1A3's wear is inferior to the CPC6, so highly likely that it can outlast the PS4.

Well, you can consider CPC6 for your next change. The marketing positioning for this product is to replace both CSC5 and CPC5, but improved upon them. Will just be slightly inferior to CSC6, but have very good noise and comfort ratings.

Hehehe if based on that review, I'm even more interested to try that Falken FK510 now! Seems like very cheap and cheerful type of deal.

You cannot trust reviews/comparisons posted in their own website, surely biased!

All F1s have tread wear rating of 300. I used F1D5 before and it lasted >50k km despite my occasional abusive driving, so I expect the the F1A3 also should last the about same. Right now I'm using CSC5 and it wears a bit faster than the F1D5. But yeah the CPC6 is designed to improve on the CSC5 on comfort, noise, and maybe durability a bit but not really on ultimate performance, have to wait and see for more reviews. So far this CSC5 is the best I've ever used though.

Note though in that review above, aquaplaning resistance of the CPC6 is not so good, and for Malaysia where got often heavy rain, aquaplaning resistance is quite an important criteria. That's why PS3 was so popular here.

Btw you're driving the Mazda 3 right? If I were you I'd actually downgrade to 17 using lightweight rims and 235/45/17 tires, much more beneficial for performance and comfort too.

FK510 also a rare creature here, asked a few places also don't have. This tyre also under my radar, just not sure about the cost of it. Just that the rolling resistance quite high, could have a noticeable impact on fuel economy.

Aquaplanning resistance should still be better than a worn down tyre. The much received V701 also had an issue with aquaplanning, the tone in the review seemed to be harsher than the CPC6.

You very observant, yes i'm driving Mazda3. Already a bit of a pinch to get proper replacement tyres, cannot break a hole in my budget for another set of rims Where are you based, want to try you X someday

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Jun 5 2017, 05:12 PM

Falken should be much cheaper than those top brands, maybe just around 60% of the price of the those.

Yeah V701 doesn't look promising in that review. It only won as the most comfortable tire!

My X? Nothing special la, just a normal sedan, already getting old some more. Some people already say no more value one.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 5 2017, 07:02 PM

I think the V701 would be the most affordable, followed by the FK510, then the CPC6.

If i'm adventurous, i may even try the RE003 for the fun of it Strange that this tyre can't be found on european shores, only the predecessor RE002 available there. Was looking for the label rating only found this out. The exact opposite of the Dunlop issue we discussed earlier.

Change the X lah The Kia Stinger could be a nice replacement, or maybe the VW Arteon if the wallet feeling more generous

I think FK510 can be cheaper than V701. This is based on the pricing of the previous FK453 model and because I never heard/seen Yokohama cheaper than Falken for similar competing models but I can be wrong.

RE003 is strong in the dry and reasonable/decent in the wet but the tread wear is only 220 and already confirmed will finish faster. The compound is not easily chipped though, similar to my CSC5 which only chips a little bit so far as opposed to PS3 or F1D5 which are chipping a lot more.

Kia & VW? No thx bro, I don't have confidence yet in Korean cars and also in VW. Furthermore, those are big cars. If I were to change, I would want smaller, more agile, and faster, don't want as big as my X anymore, AWD turbo with simple manual gearbox would be best. Anyway economy is tough, no money to spend on fancy cars coz got other much more important priorities.

Didn't know that the position and Falken and Yokohama as such, i presume them to be of same market positioning. I'll try another shop that has Falken signboard, see whether can get this or not. The FK510 could be like the Sportmaxx RT2, never to be introduced into our markets here.

By the way, earlier on you talked about lightened wheels. May i know what is your setup and what brand of wheels you use?

The previous version FK453 was available here, so I'm hoping the FK510 should be too.

I'm using Prodrive forged rims GC-07C, staggered sizes 17x7.5/8.5 (weight 6.6/6.9kg) with tires CSC5 225/50/17 fr & CSC3 245/45/17 rr.

wow forged Must be expensive, how much you paid for it?

I shouldn't be able to afford it, i'm more of a cheapskate looking for well conditioned 2nd hand flow formed wheels of reputable brands not exceeding 3k.

Well it's an old rim so I bought them used hence already more affordable at rm2+k (forgot exactly how much already, need to check the receipt).

Oh, not too bad. Does it look like this :

http://www.mudah.my/Prodrive+gc+07c+17+jap...su-53186085.htm

https://sg.carousell.com/p/original-prodriv...uery%3Dprodrive

Exactly the same as the one in mudah.
It's not that expensive because it's not as popular as Rays but actually similar class of rims. It's actually also made by Rays. The good thing about it, it's very rare and no fakes/replicas are made, unlike those popular ones.

I see, good good.

You have any other similar rim recommendations that won't break my bank?

Taiwan made Advanti Storm series, cheap and cheerful and can get new for about the same budget or even less. Of course it's not forged but flow forming technology so pretty lightweight also.

Edit: or you want to just buy mine?

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 7 2017, 10:20 AM

RE003 might have lower threadwear rating. I have all four new RE003 on my car since 25k-28k km ago and I can vouch that I hardly see much wear. Even the Mrs and my colleagues were surprised when I asked them to gauge the age/mileage of my RE003s. I haven't tried PS4 yet. Most likely will fit them on wife's car. In summary, my RE003's dry and wet grip is nothing short of awesome. I suspect the only areas that Michelin PS4 will eclipse it are in wet grip and aquaplaning resistance.

Ic, from some other forum, it seems the wear is faster than usual. Maybe you don't drive aggressively in the corners, hence the wear is slow? But the 220 tread wear rating is correct and supposed to indicate it should wear out faster. Other competing tires usually have tread wear rating of around 300.

Yes, PS4 should be better in the wet grip and aquaplaning resistance than RE003.

I don't drive aggressively (spiritedly is more appropriate) but I definitely trash corners more often than not. Let me compare it against the PS4 for a bigger picture. Should be getting them PS4s in the next month or so.

Great, looking forward to your reviews then. What car do you drive btw?

I'm tempted You want to exchange with my OEM rims??

Partly i think the car weight has some effect on this. Mine with 240 rating and i'm approaching 33k, still got 40% thread left. Can reasonably last till 40k or 45k at a stretch. Not too bad for a performance based tyres.

But i pump in above average air pressure at 260kpa. Still within the recommended air pressure range, but on the higher end.

Hahaha, sorry not interested in any OE rims coz they're heavy! Your 18' at least weigh 11-12kg per piece, that's like 60-70% heavier than my forged rims.

Yeah, weight do plays a part too.
Wah you pump pretty hard leh, can be quite harsh, no? I only pump 240-245kpa. Already old man, so cannot take hard ride.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 7 2017, 04:01 PM

If i cabut your wheels, how are you to go about, you still need wheels to move around right? So temporarily use the OEM wheels for the time being in your hunt for a new set What will you be aiming if you were to change?

Not too bad la, i pumped 270-280kpa before and that one feels really damn harsh. For me, below 270kpa still ok, below 240kpa steering response feels a little mushy. Slightly harder also have some favourable impact on my fuel consumption. Not so much on the Mazda, but the previous car can see about 3% improvement.

Hopefully, the CPC6 can improve the NVH a further notch. My mum complained that can't hear me talking when driving the Mazda on a faster pace.

I still have my std 16' rims with expired tires! As replacement I will either go with wider 17' or even go 18' provided can get good lightweight ones at affordable prices and original made in Japan as well.

Like I said, I'm getting old already so my tolerance to hard ride might be much less than younger people!

I think the CPC6 might not be that quiet too, the EU noise rating is still 72db so still typical like other similar high performance tires. CSC5, PS3 & 4 rating are around 71-73db. In contrast, the F1A3 is rated at only 68db, which is over twice more quiet than those others.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Jun 7 2017, 06:53 PM

Bro 6UE5T,

Wanna ask u.

My ori tyre size was 205/55/R16. I have upgraded to 215/45/R17, is it a correct size up? Thks.

I checked online, seems 225/45/R17 is the best up size. Disadvantage is tyre more expensive than 215/45.
Advantages?

Yes 225/45/17 is the better conversion size.
Advantages: better grip coz wider, and more comfortable coz 0.4cm taller sidewall plus also slightly higher ground clearance due to that 0.4cm. Subjectively looks better too coz less fender gaps by 0.4cm and looks meaner coz wider from the back. So in summary, should've gone with 225/45/17 coz it's the better choice.

Found some good replacements that could suit you :
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/main-line-wheels/z-in/
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/ultraform/
http://konigwheels.com/wheels/flow-formed-wheels/rennform/

They licensed Enkei's MAT process and has a plant in Taiwan, so manufacturing cost and duties are lower. Got a quote before for a set of 18in for around RM2000 almost 1 years ago.

Ya, noted on the noise ratings for CPC6, just hope that they might release a more comprehensive list of label ratings. Some sizes might have more favourable rating. But if that's the case, i might fall back to the V701 or FK510 as they are rated between 68-70db. Just don't know how hard it is to get a set of FK510...

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Jun 8 2017, 10:56 AM

I heard from a forum member in ZTH, that Konig is not as strong and a bit prone to knocks & dings. For Taiwan made, Advanti is better even though using the same technology from Enkei. Anyway I'm more inclined to look for used Japanese rims.

Bro,
My rim specs:

SIZE : 17X7.5JJ
PCD : 5X108
ET : +38

can fit 225/45/R17?

can

Thks bro wkc5657.

Yes can, 225 tires can fit rims from 7jj-8.5jj with 7.5-8jj as the ideal fit.

Thks bro 6UE5T.

Went hunting for Fk510 today, shop called distributor, no stock. And tried some hunting in singapore, also can't find any traces of it. Either it will be damn late, or maybe rebranded. Judging from the speed of Michelin and Continental launching their latest products, i believe will start seeing the CPC6 on our shores around Q3 this year.

Had so much hope for the FK510...but reality is that it is not arriving anytime soon. I'm starting to consider the Nitto Invo, found 1 place distributing, will go ask another day when free. The water evacuation groves looked damn insane, just wonder the price....or maybe i should fall back to the V701 for latest tyres at a pinch. F1A3 very promising, but priced on average higher than the PS4

You got any idea about Nitto tyres?

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Jun 11 2017, 12:04 AM

Yes F1A3 seems more expensive now since still made in Germany as opposed to PS4 made in Thailand.

Not sure, never tired Nitto before and never read any reviews on them yet.

Met another tyre shop manager, FK510 not brought into Malaysia. But that fellor crazy enough to quote me 700+ for V701 225/45/R18

Really head chopping nowadays....

better u can buy ps4 for less than rm 700.
luckily u know the price if not kena chop kao kao.

Sometimes, i kind of envy those people who live in mid peninsular. Despite near the capital city, the prices are actually more reasonable than those found in the south. Sometimes, despite going through the hassle, singapore is actually cheaper

Yalor. Penang's also the same. The tyres always more expensive than those at KL.

Cant even find CPC5 in malaysia
stupid continental malaysia ask u to use CC6.
lol

Can't say that continental malaysia stupid because from overall market perspective, malaysia market is more value orientated, unlike in more mature markets where people think more about safety and performance.

Correct too
majority prefer eco tyre.

It this continental tyres is suitable for every car? my car id honda civic but im not sure either conti tyres can use for my car or not?


This post has been edited by farhanah: Nov 21 2017, 09:18 AM

Your car civic FC? If so then yours would already come with continental 😅.

Of course la, it's just like any other tires. Not because the brand name Continental then it's only suitable for continental cars! Continental cars is also a wrong/misleading terminology anyway, only used by Malaysians, don't know how! Nobody else in the world use the term conti cars.

If i'm not mistaken, the term "continental cars" has the continental word it it due to the fact that it is from another continent, hence "continental". But in general, usually relates to western branded cars.

As if Asia is not a continent hence cars made in Asia are not called continental cars? That's why I never use that terminology even though afterwards I know what Malaysians mean by it. First time a Malaysian friend asked me about what I think about Continental cars I was just like, what???

Likewise, for the western countries, asian cars are considered "continental" cars if apply our way of thinking

But westerners do not use that term la!

Already say "if apply our way of thinking" mah....

Anyway, back to the topic. Seems like i was wrong in predicting the CPC6 to be in our market by this quarter. Looks like continental malaysia would prioritise in saturating the market with the MC6, then only trickle in the CPC6. Not sure about those tyre shops that can bring in stuffs unofficially though...

They actually brought in Extreme Contact instead to compete with PS4S! Looks like they'd just settle with MC6 and not bring in CPC6 after all because they already positioned MC6 as PS4 competitor which is actually what the CPC6 is too. Probably can get CPC6 from direct shop imports only.

I see....looks like i'll have to settle for the MC6 in the near future then since FK510 also won't be available here and the new pzero is just too darn expensive now.

Try the Hankook V12 Evo2 or S1 Evo2. I just replaced my wife's car rims with some used ones and they came with the V12E2 at the front still in very good condition (>80%) and they perform very well so far when I tested them yesterday, both in heavy rain condition and dry. These Hankooks should be the best value for money now.

I got quoted from import shop CPC5 195/50/15
Rm400 satu biji.
Make in EU.

the price seems like more expensive than cc6,
how is the performance?

Whhahaha, what a cut throat price! Really not worth it. Might as well buy PS3, can almost get 2 tires for that price!

CC6 is Continental's lowest level tire la, the worse one with lousy grip, no good for anything other than just silent and lasting forever! CPC series is Continental's mid-range tires, 2 levels above CC series (CC<UC<MC/CPC<CSC<ExC).

OS autocare JB.
yes, special order.
CC6 does not related with performance haha



Anyway, my CPC2 last longer compared with CC5.
CC5 40k sudah botak
CPC2 can last until 60k.

This post has been edited by sg999: Nov 22 2017, 06:59 PM

Oh really? And this was on the same car and same tire size? That's a bit odd coz CC5 tread wear rating is 360 while CPC2 is only 280 (same with CSC range which for me only lasted max 40-45k km). Anyway then it's even worse la, the CC5 is not good for much else lor!
Actually my wife's car comes with CC1 and the treads were still thick even after >60k km until the rubber all hardened and showing cracks, at least with her driving style.

for me continental tyre is famous type of tyres so the price is quite expensive than economic tyres
so i prefer choose economic tyres for use bcuz quality is quite good and the price is met with my budget

yup but i heard from my friend argue that continental tyres almost got problem..but i not sure this is true or not
so i recommend you choose other brand of tyre for using as safety purpose

Yeah, a tire sifu in another forum also has mentioned that there are several cases he knows that Continental tires were bulging or having any other problems. I had used them once and they're very good though, so not sure either how. Maybe it's like the VW, also made in Germany so when working fine they're good stuff but sometimes can be fragile too.

MC5 user here. Car came with it, brand new and stuff. I can vouch that there are issues with bulging for this model. But then now they very quickly come out with MC6 and for me personally I would choose something else, either CPC, Primacy, or even eagle asymmetric.😅

How was the refinement? Is it harsh compared to the older tyre of your wife's car?

Is the MC series manufactured in Malaysia?

Ic. Hopefully Continental has fixed those issues. I suppose I'm pretty lucky to be able to finish off my CSC without any issues.
Eagle Asymmetric is a very good tire, and also higher class than MC, CPC, or Primacy. It's same level as CSC and PS3/4. I'm using that now also.

So far it's very good but also not really apple-to-apple comparison coz previous tires were low end Conti CC series size 185/65/15 while now it's size 225/45/17. It's pretty silent though, equally silent if not better I would say.

MC is made in Malaysia coz it's just for Malaysian market, not international market.

oh wow.....lower profile and wider than previous old tyre, yet almost equal refinement, sounds pretty damn good i say

What size and your budget pls ?
And what do you prioritize ?
Grip or comfort

This post has been edited by regnox: Nov 23 2017, 12:58 PM

Yup, and more importantly, the grip and handling are miles ahead of those shitty CC tires!

Kumho are crap tires la, often hear issues with them and I never heard/read any good reviews whatsoever on any Kumho tires. Buy Hankook, also made in Korea but much better and more proven while still relatively very cheap too.

It could be just the car, civic fc as the tyres are pretty noisy. That was one of the reason to change out of mc5. PS 4 also seems like no no as it is also kind of noisy. There was a test with fancy equipment and all last year that shows Pirelli p zero was quieter amongst the uhp tyres or something.

This post has been edited by alvinrenren: Nov 23 2017, 04:56 PM

Latest comparison test in the US shows Hankook V12 Evo2 was the most silent compared to PS4, PZero, F1A3, & Conti ExC.
http://www.tyrereviews.co.uk/Article/2017-...P-Tyre-Test.htm

Very interesting read, I see there are test results from different labs as well. Although there are slight discrepancies, the general result seem to favour PS4 or PS4S. I also see the results differ if the tyre size change as well.

Thanks for the info.

PS4 or PS4S is type from michelin tyre? how is the quality?

cheaper tyres maybe u cn choose viking tyres as it is eco tyre but quality quite okay for use
normally i use this tyres as the price is more cheaper

Both from Michelin . PS4 S is super more expensive than PS4 but quality wise should be same. Performance wise PS4S is better.

which brand of tyre tread is betetr for use? bormally my car tyre became blad in 1 years like this so i need the tyre wic tyre blad in good quality

Using UC6 for 5000km. So far pretty good experience. No hydroplaning or wheel spin on wet road. With less pressure, there is less pull when driving through puddles of water. But could be different speed or softer tyre absorbing the impact.

Handling is decent. Hope it last at least 3yrs.

Let's just put it this way: those are some of the best if not the best tire money can buy! So if got budget, then by all means just buy those! PS4 is available down to 16' while PS4S is only 19' upwards.

That means you have never used better tires before, and that's why you feel the UC is good enough already but comparatively, it's just the 2nd lowest line up from Continental so yeah, like that lor. What size are you using though? Good tires often limited by sizes.

I bet conti premium contact series is much better than UC6
even old model CPC2

Yeah, CPC is 2 level up from UC. Even MC would be better than UC.

Yea for performance u would go for MC as it would be averagely priced. But if you value comfort / nvh, probably find something else. UC would be good for comfort/ nvh but performance looks like lesser.

End of the day, depend on your driving, if drive highway, no jam and relatively fast then get performance. If stuck in jam in kl every morning and evening, u get PS4 or perelli also wasted.

99.9% of drivers don't even know how the car is like at limit, let alone actually knowing the limits of the tyre.

So even highway driving, normal CC range can do well enough circa below 150km/h. So for these drivers, only when absolute real emergency only can see the tyre performance difference.

Question is, would you know exactly or predict when you are going to be in an absolute real emergency situations??
Watch a couple of videos I just posted in the other thread about best tires.

Another question is, whether the driver knows how to handle the car in emergency? If frozen (which most of us happen to), even pilot sport cup can't help the driver out of emergency....

Actually, more critical is driver awareness, and a good to pick up skill, defensive driving.

But being humans, vanity strikes us and we err towards the best performance that we can afford (sometimes can't afford). I admit sometimes i'm like this when it comes to purchases

An example would be the smartphone, many have top range phone but among them, who actually uses more than 50% of the features?

The less skilled the driver, actually the more important a good tires would be! A pro driver is very well trained to handle the car behavior when reaching and over the limit but normal drivers are not. Hence more pro drivers might still get away with driving lesser tires but normal driver are not!

Watch this video as well:

I think a better way of saying would be good tyres gives larger margin for idiocy than lower performing tyres. But yeah, you have a point too.

Well I'm not going to go as far as calling it idiocy coz sometimes it can be just an unfortunate event, which better tires might give more margin to escape or at least lessen the damage.

wow....40% off sticker price!

https://www.mudah.my/Tayar+BARU+215+45+18+C...C6-61055027.htm

This post has been edited by wkc5657: Dec 6 2017, 10:39 AM

Yeah this shop seems to give very competitive pricing. Worth to check out form those looking for tires around Klang Valley.

Had a torn sidewall on my v12evo2 for almost a year. Can see a few strands of metal reinforcing threads start to rust, surprising that the tyre still held up till recently.

Was in singapore, randomly chanced upon a deal in carousell website, SGD100 for a used pair (inclusive installation and balancing). Heck, although i think the hankook can still hold up despite of the tear, just don't want to take the risk anymore.

Despite being 40% worn, the leftover threads are still darn thick, almost as thick as a new v12evo2. No wonder some test say cpc6 has good wear rates.

Also at the workshop, played around with the new goodyear F1A5. The meat is even thicker. For the price, performance and longevity, F1A5 is not cheaper but a better overall value for those staying in johor. Was surprised at the pricing, the workshop people told me that goodyear now market F1 asymmetric series as lower rank, to make space for supersport series.