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Amps/Pedals BOSS GT 8 vs KORG AX3000G vs POD XT LIVE, Comparison based on ur likings + style

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Equilibrium777
post Mar 21 2007, 10:37 PM

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GT-8 good models, good tone, if you're using a good amp then you won't use the amp models. . . the models are good if you connect direct to a PA for performance or if you do recording into your pc. . .

just don't feel sad if a GT-9 coems out. . . xD technology is so fast nowadays. . .
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post Mar 21 2007, 11:10 PM

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i don't like the GT-8 ODs and amp models. The OD modellers sound like they are runned through an expander and are dynamically very dead (eg playing hard just sounds like a volume boost and nothing more). And you can hear the typical sharp rough SS OD characteristics. But for effects like chorus, flanger, etc the GT-8 is really good. Definitely gives you flexibility and nothing much to complain about.

Can't really compare it with the KORG or the POD as i havent tried both of them before. But if you're going for tone, i would save the 1k++ and abit (...actually alot) more for a tube combo. Or using a software modeller is cheaper. Like i said I don't know about Line6 stuff but Native Instruments guitar rig 2 is an interesting piece of software. It comes with a foot controller with a built in sound card so you can connect directly into your PA/computer/wherever.

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post Mar 21 2007, 11:18 PM

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again, korg technology is what is used for the modelling found in the vox valvetronix amps.
so i would say its pretty good.

if all you care about is good distortion, why not just get an amp?
paying all that money for a multi-fx when you will only utilize 10% of it is a serious waste.
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post Mar 21 2007, 11:20 PM

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True. A decent Vox AD30vt will be less then RM1.4k.
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post Mar 21 2007, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 21 2007, 11:20 PM)
True. A decent Vox AD30vt will be less then RM1.4k.
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wow
thats some overpriced vox
i got mine at 800 lol =p
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i get your point

@bassix
ah yes, that i agree very much
it isnt dynamic until you "make" it dynamic, the dynamic picking setting lol
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post Mar 22 2007, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 21 2007, 11:18 PM)
again, korg technology is what is used for the modelling found in the vox valvetronix amps.
so i would say its pretty good.

if all you care about is good distortion, why not just get an amp?
paying all that money for a multi-fx when you will only utilize 10% of it is a serious waste.
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I wanna explore more effects.. I will try to use more effects and one thing is.. I don't want the need to play with other effects sacrifices my main effect which is the distortion....
I do not want to invest in Stompbox anymore as it will costs me more and more and since I have the budget now. I feel it is time to go for a GT8...
I have tried GT6 sounds all and it sounds nice.
GT8 I have seen alot of people using them and it still sounds good. Just not sure some people prefer the older GT6 instead of the GT8. I have no idea on this anyway

I currently owning a Laney MXD120.. actually... overall it suits my likings.. and the price is quite affordable

I juz sold off my stompboxes only left MD-2 available.. so I guess I have decided to purchase a multi-effect.. Just would like to know more and understand more from all of you guys who are more well-versed in these effects. Hopefully I will be able to understand it and then at last try them myself and make a final decision.

All the comments and advises will help me achieve a better decision. Hehe

Thanks in Advance..

Of coz.. still wish to welcome more comments and arguments about the multi-effects..

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post Mar 22 2007, 04:04 AM

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Well, you can get the GT8. OD patches are abit dry for my taste, but I think it has marvellous effects. And then start saving again for an amp for your OD tone. If you want good tone you have to be prepared to pay for it. Unfortunately that's the way it goes sad.gif

Besides, you can always get an OD pedal for your distortion and use the GT8 as purely FX. I never liked OD pedals but it's definitely alot cheaper than an amp. The GT8 fuzz patches however are useful for recording if you are into fuzz and heavy distortion. I actually used it on my fretless bass once and quite liked it. Perfect for techno-ish electronic stuff. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 22 2007, 10:55 AM

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I've never tried the Korg or the PodXT. But you can get good tone from the GT-8... if you have the patience.

The learning curve can be quite bloody steep - so many parameters which can be tweaked, and which have to be tweaked in order to get good tone. The GT-8's "tweakability" is second to none in that price range and that's a blessing or a curse, depending on what you're looking for. GT-8 = plug and pray.

Pod can be upgraded, no doubt, with all those extra FX, amp models etc. But it ain't free... IIRC, USD50-100 for each upgrade pack.

GT-8 on the other hand allows you to insert external pedals into your FX chain - h3ll, you could probably stick the Pod in the GT-8 fx chain and use the Pod just for the amp modelling... laugh.gif
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post Mar 22 2007, 11:18 AM

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Speaking of which, I'm BLOODY happy with my ToneLab SE to get the 80s metal crunch I so desperately seek. No upgradability, but has MIDI In/Out to use the unit as a controller AND FX loop as well.

It has the best distortions in my book, partially because it uses a 12AX7 tube to get the warmth of the distortions. The JCM800 sounds KILLER with my ZW-44 Overdrive hooked to the FX Loop.

Unfortunately, Vox is discontinuing this amazing device according to CK music. HOWEVER, they ARE adding the ToneLab LE to their lineup, a smaller version of the SE WITH Tube as well. Check it out for yourself and give CK Music a call to see when they are bringing it in.

I bought my ToneLab SE for RM1100 (But that was because they were having sales, original price at RM1800). I'm sure the ToneLab LE Should be priced lower then the SE.

More info on the ToneLab LE here: http://www.voxamps.co.uk/tonelab/tonelab_le.asp
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QUOTE(RustReaver4D1 @ Mar 22 2007, 10:55 AM)
I've never tried the Korg or the PodXT. But you can get good tone from the GT-8... if you have the patience.

The learning curve can be quite bloody steep - so many parameters which can be tweaked, and which have to be tweaked in order to get good tone. The GT-8's "tweakability" is second to none in that price range and that's a blessing or a curse, depending on what you're looking for. GT-8 = plug and pray.

Pod can be upgraded, no doubt, with all those extra FX, amp models etc. But it ain't free... IIRC, USD50-100 for each upgrade pack.

GT-8 on the other hand allows you to insert external pedals into your FX chain - h3ll, you could probably stick the Pod in the GT-8 fx chain and use the Pod just for the amp modelling...  laugh.gif
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i've seen ppl doing that during a gig...using the POD as the modeller and the GT-8 for fx...the result is awesome...bringing the best out of the 2...
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post Mar 22 2007, 02:00 PM

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The best of both worlds, yup. But it's not really cost-effective or practical since you won't be using the GT-8's amp modellers or the Pod's FX - and it'll be bloody bulky to carry around and a complete headache to set-up... laugh.gif

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......unless of course you have a roadie. tongue.gif
Hey, I mean, if you afford a GT-8 and a POD XT, you should be able to fork out some cash for a roadie......
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Not all of us are as fortunate as you to have roadies... tongue.gif
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post Mar 22 2007, 03:04 PM

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Actually, he's my friend who owes me a favor and wants to jam as well...... and since I don't gig, I don't need a "roadie" often.
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post Mar 22 2007, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(blacktrix @ Mar 22 2007, 03:04 PM)
Actually, he's my friend who owes me a favor and wants to jam as well...... and since I don't gig, I don't need a "roadie" often.
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Ok, ok... enough spamming poor davidlow7's thread... tongue.gif icon_rolleyes.gif


davidlow7':
You're running through a Laney MXD120? That's the successor to the Hardcore Max right?

When jamming, I usually hook up my GT-8 through a Laney Hardcore Max half or full stack. It's not exactly transparent, but you can get some nice heavy tones from that combination. Not sure about the Korg though...
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post Mar 22 2007, 04:00 PM

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if your budget is lower maybe you can look at the BOSS ME-5? its a smaller version and it's quite good. . .

Any GT-6 users here?
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post Mar 22 2007, 04:12 PM

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Hmmm, actually getting a 2nd hand GT-6 wouldn't be such a bad idea. They go for sub-RM1,000 now and is not much different than the GT-8.


QUOTE(Equilibrium777 @ Mar 22 2007, 04:00 PM)
Any GT-6 users here?
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Valkyrie's got one. He bought it off a local Eastern Melodic Metal guitarist... biggrin.gif

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post Mar 22 2007, 05:38 PM

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Yeah
Getting a 2nd hand GT6 wouldn't be a bad idea but just can't find 1 at the moment. When people are selling, I have no budget. When I have the budget, nobody is selling. *sad*

I have gone to some Music Shops to order GT8. They don't have stock available and they called alot of their suppliers and they said Malaysia are now short of supply. Unless there are some shops who happened to keep them....
They called Bentley and Do Re Mi.. even them also don't have stocks and they claim that there are alot of people now ordering and not so sure next month you will get the stock or not. But 80% should have..

Another sad case for me...
So they recommended me a POD XT LIVE....
But I can't test them... It is abit hard for me to go KL just to test it personally.. haizzzz
too bad... I guess I may juz have to wait..

But surprisingly.. POD XT Live.. I found it less than RM1600 after discount

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really? wanna ask about a few things on the 6. . . like how to actually work the damn sound on sound. . . and a few other tweak stuff =( so damn complicated. . .
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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Mar 22 2007, 05:38 PM)
Yeah
Getting a 2nd hand GT6 wouldn't be a bad idea but just can't find 1 at the moment. When people are selling, I have no budget. When I have the budget, nobody is selling. *sad*

I have gone to some Music Shops to order GT8. They don't have stock available and they called alot of their suppliers and they said Malaysia are now short of supply. Unless there are some shops who happened to keep them....
They called Bentley and Do Re Mi.. even them also don't have stocks and they claim that there are alot of people now ordering and not so sure next month you will get the stock or not. But 80% should have..

Another sad case for me...
So they recommended me a POD XT LIVE....
But I can't test them... It is abit hard for me to go KL just to test it personally.. haizzzz
too bad... I guess I may juz have to wait..

But surprisingly.. POD XT Live.. I found it less than RM1600 after discount
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where do you stay?
public transport ftw biggrin.gif

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