One can actually use the glass diffuser, provided you are using a "more than 4-DIY co2" setup. Then there'd be enough pressure. Don't forget to use a check valve to stop back-flow and a bubble counter to further diffuse the gas.

Get Seachem Flourish Excel to supplement Carbon to your plants. Increase dosage to the recommended dosage on the bottle slowly: so that your plants can get used to it, likened to breaking-in your plants. Also sudden addition of supplements may sometimes promote algae growth.

Addition of Ferrite/root tabs, would enhance the root systems of your stem plants. But only use root tabs in your future plantings because your JBL base fert would be more than adequate for the time being.

ggMing is right about the glass diffuser. needs a lot of pressure. i think i need a 2-bottle DIY CO2 setup. the bottle that i have is leaking CO2. i need to silicone glue the holes.

i shook the CO2 bottle today, there was enough pressure to force the bubbles out, but only for about 5 second. then, the water seep back into the tube. i need a check valve.

i guess this will be my sunday project!

i wan to get a plant tank ...anybody tell me the basic small tank how much is it cost ...
wat should i do for a new tank ...

a small tank to start... its depandce on ur budget, $ can be alot difference.maybe you let us know ur budget?

i wish to start with a small tank 1st ...
my budget around 200 - 300 like that ....

Once you done your small tank let us know the cost, I am interested in Ocean fish.

yea will let u know the cost after done everything ....hehe....
u interested in marine fish ka .....
actually i have a marine fish tank rite now ......
if u need help on marine fish u can pm me ask me .....

Im going to start rearing marine fishes again.. but need to buy again the set ups, coz the old ones dunoe go where..

I would go for lion fish. anyone got 1 ar? Those like got spikes 1. Very beautiful.

ANyway i need some tips on starting up the tank pls.. Coz last time those fishes and corals tat i bought last time ended up dead.. so hard to rear..

okay... marine fish...

Go for a 3' tank... thats like the minimum of the minimum....
get a tank with a sump tank as filtration...
get the biggest sumptank you can get...
get a cover for the tank... fully covered with vents...

now, you'll need a return pump...
and a protein skimmer...

biological media plays a huge role in any aquarium be it marine or freshwater...

live rock and some coral chips or fine sand...

marine is not hard to keep... you;ll only need to watch out for the water quality...
unlike planted tanks where you got to take care of the water parameters, the lightings, co2, fertilization and so on....

but don't be penny wise, pound foolish... marine does not come cheap...
be prepared for 2-3k... of course, a lot of shops would tell you a 600 dollars budget can start....
thats when in months later, people find their fish dead and say marine hard to keep...

any question, do PM me... i would be happy to advise ....
peace!!

[quote=^MochI^,Mar 6 2008, 10:46 PM]Im going to start rearing marine fishes again.. but need to buy again the set ups, coz the old ones dunoe go where..

I would go for lion fish. anyone got 1 ar? Those like got spikes 1. Very beautiful.

ANyway i need some tips on starting up the tank pls.. Coz last time those fishes and corals tat i bought last time ended up dead.. so hard to rear..

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or you may start with a 2'ft tank also ......so u may cut off ur budget .....
a 2ft tanks is cost bout 200+- .....
den you need to buy the chemical product .......
for a new tank set up u may need 2 week time for the water b4 u put in any fishie or coral ...
let the water quality stable only can put in fish .......

you would like to go for the lion fish u can .......but you tank must be big ......
coz if you put in lion fish u may not putting the small fish anymore .....
you have to put fish like Tang .....coz lion fish will eat all the small fish ......

anything that u need to know can also PM me .....

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Added on March 7, 2008, 9:30 am
Very agree with the below the actual need to use around 2 - 3k ......
that time wen i set up is use about 400 - 500 only ......but at last add this add that
all around 2-3k dy

be prepared for 2-3k... of course, a lot of shops would tell you a 600 dollars budget can start....
thats when in months later, people find their fish dead and say marine hard to keep...

any question, do PM me... i would be happy to advise ....
peace!!

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This post has been edited by cavien: Mar 7 2008, 09:30 AM

do you have the tank? or everything from zero?

everything from zero ...
mind to pm me your MSn for me easy to ask ./..

Really? WOw... show us some SHARP picture la. I love marine fish(always called it Ocean fish ) I love those colour, it is SO BRIGHT!

haha.......my tank is not really so nice juz a normal tank only ......
you got marine fish also ???

Not yet. Was really like it, but need extra money to set up a 'proper' size tank baru cantik mah. Too small seem like the marine fish will die easy, no space to swim and hide also.

If you guys wanna go marine then get the biggest tank you guys can afford, or else if its only 3 feet, not really viable in terms of budget plus you will only have a minimum amount of marine life. IMHO, a 'high' tank is the better choice for a marine tank, the ability to re-create a coral wall is more stunning than rock islands formation.

If you're interested to look at marine life in the wild, head on over to Sphere Divers, these photos belong to a friend of mine. The photo album is from his extensive collection of diving photos.

This post has been edited by geediver: Mar 7 2008, 09:16 PM

i had my tank around 1 yr +- ........from a small tank into a bigger tank ...... i start with a small tank bcoz i need to learn how to set a proper water n everything b4 i move to next level .......coz a bigger tank is not easy to take care .....i know the bigger tank is nice ....but u need to know how to adjust the water quality only go for next level .....if not u will feel marine fish is very hard .... i suggest you take a 2ft or 3ft tank .....but have to be very deep .....so your tank will more nicer if y put coral ....

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Added on March 7, 2008, 11:48 pmand pls be prepare some money if you really wan to get a coral and fish tank .... coz a lot of fish is bite coral .....and the fish which is nice and not bite coral is very exp ....

This post has been edited by cavien: Mar 7 2008, 11:48 PM

Hi all, currently i got a small tank setup for around 1 months about 1.5 feet in size...lots of plants, quite crowded i can say. For the CO2 i'm using the Nutrafin CO2 system and the GH drop to < 3. Is it because of the CO@ system too much for a small tank?

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Added on March 10, 2008, 4:57 pma small tank around 1.5 feet and the basic setup is between 100 - 200 budget...it also depends on what kind of item and quality of the item u use...hehehe.

If the gravel and stuff u use ADA or SERA, of course expensive...heheh

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Added on March 10, 2008, 5:16 pmHere's my 1.5 feet tank...

First 2 weeks...Cycling period...Zebra Danios added for cycling purposes...



Tadaaa....After 3 weeks...

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Added on March 10, 2008, 5:19 pmKulih loach and bumble bee happily scouting for food...


This post has been edited by chong82: Mar 10 2008, 05:21 PM

nice one Chong82, share more of the spec of ur tank.

GH is normally <3, unless u add GH+.

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some blur pics of my messy tank... though to take galaxy pic, but so blur..

Hi Nezumitaro,

Can you tell me from which Aquatic shop you're getting all those nice plants? The local Aquatic shop around my area in Subang doesn't sell those, but it's for their display only.

But the test kit indicates GH < 3 is not ok...Cherry Shrimps had died and only the fishes and Yamato shrimp are surviving....heheh
Does anyone know for what reason the water turn to yellowish? Even though im performing water change up to 50%, it still turns to yellowish the next day.

Btw, tonite i'm getting a 2.5 feet tank from one of the Lowyat member, and that's my next project. Probably it'll be easier to maintain a 2 feet tank compared to 1 feet tank.

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Added on March 11, 2008, 11:57 amMy 1 feet tank specs:
1 feet tank
1 hang-on filter
1 Nutrafin CO2 system
1 glass diffuser
1 fan
1 FL 18w
3 Neon Tetra
1 Kulih Loach
2 Bumble Bee
2 Danios Zebra
1 Guppy baby
1 Puffer
1 Golden Algae Eater
1 Oto
1 Yamato shrimp

Lots of plants, dunno whats the name but probably you guys are more familiar compared to me, i'm still trying to learn all those names...heheh
The water chemistry are perfect.....until~~~ after 2 weeks of using the CO2 system, GH went crazy...I used the 5 in 1 test kit.
Yea, probably some of you would say "Heck, you tank is like Sarawak Rumah Panjang, 3 family in 1 roof, crowded"....heheheh
So far all the inhabitants are doing fine with each other, no fin nipping from puffer or weird behavior from the chinese algae eater...amen~~ hehe

This post has been edited by chong82: Mar 11 2008, 12:03 PM