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TSnezumitaro
post Mar 11 2008, 10:44 PM

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the fish and shrimp shouldn't die even gh is 0, i mean shrimp wouldn't die immediately or die in a few day with GH 0, it can be the benefit bacteria not growing well yet.

what soil you are using? yellowish water can be the soil or wood if u hv any.

1ft 50% WC is not good for the fish and shrimp. make it 20% X 2 times a week.

most of the plants i get from firends. but i order plant from aqua world in damansara permai. ss19 NA, those in display tank u can ask if they sale. ask them to cut for u smile.gif
88 sunway mas sometime hv some plants too.. sls near subang air port also.

yes 2 ft or 2.5t tank is easier compare to nano smile.gif but 2.5ft u may need the co2 system loh.
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post Mar 11 2008, 10:49 PM

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post Mar 12 2008, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 11 2008, 10:44 PM)
the fish and shrimp shouldn't die even gh is 0, i mean shrimp wouldn't die immediately or die in a few day with GH 0, it can be the benefit bacteria not growing well yet.

what soil you are using? yellowish water can be the soil or wood if u hv any.

1ft 50% WC is not good for the fish and shrimp. make it 20% X 2 times a week.

most of the plants i get from firends. but i order plant from aqua world in damansara permai. ss19 NA, those in display tank u can ask if they sale. ask them to cut for u smile.gif
88 sunway mas sometime hv some plants too.. sls near subang air port also.

yes 2 ft or 2.5t tank is easier compare to nano smile.gif but 2.5ft u may need the co2 system loh.
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Hi,

I found the cause of the yellowish water problem, it's algae bloom and after a few days without light,stopped dosing liquid fert and daily 20% water change cleared it up. It's actually a bit in green colour. laugh.gif

My 1 feet tank is using Gex (green packaging) and the 2.5 feet tank is using ADA ARCANA soil...

Aqua World at Damansara Permai sounds near.... thumbup.gif

Now waitting for the 2.5 feet tank to finish 'silent cycling'. Can't wait to finish up my mini Atlantis...kekeke laugh.gif laugh.gif


Added on March 12, 2008, 11:07 amHere's a few pics of the setting up process... laugh.gif

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post Mar 12 2008, 11:57 AM

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waw u play until green water ah? LOL.... better WC. later all plants koyak oh.. don't play play..

er ur 2.5ft tank with cover one ah? not hot meh?

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post Mar 12 2008, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(chong82 @ Mar 11 2008, 11:50 AM)
Hi Nezumitaro,

Can you tell me from which Aquatic shop you're getting all those nice plants? The local Aquatic shop around my area in Subang doesn't sell those, but it's for their display only.

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Err... chong82, go to LFS List for near complete list for what you looking for, especially the address for the LFS in Subang.

Btw, your hairgrass planting looks too bushy. plant 1-2 only not 3-5. I'm sure you already trimmed back on the hairgrass before planting. Add more stem plants in the tank, get as much as you possibly can.

Advice #1: If buying stem plants are too expensive, just head on to the nearest fishing pond, you can get free Cabomba, to see what it looks like click HERE. Before you add the plants that you get from the pond into your tank, make sure you wash it and then leave it to soak overnight. Just in case, you might end up with extra parasites like snails.

The white sand is too straight, and I believe its Silica sand (not sure though) but its gonna screw up your water parameters. I had that once, and 1 week after adding, algae bloom! So I don't use it anymore instead I use Shirui sand (get it at Slippery Little Suckers, Ara Damansara - look at the LFS List for complete address)

Nezu: I damn jealous look at your jungle.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Mar 12 2008, 02:24 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 12 2008, 11:57 AM)
waw u play until green water ah? LOL.... better WC. later all plants koyak oh.. don't play play..

er ur 2.5ft tank with cover one ah? not hot meh?
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The tank got no cover, but it's definitely a funny looking tank... laugh.gif

Geediver,

That's the roman style road, that's why its so straight...heheh laugh.gif
Actually I just wanted a short pathway lookalike and I don't have enough white sand, so it's short and straight, since mine are small tank and this is my 2nd attempt with a month's experience in freshwater aquarium, so there's no Amano style in my tank, instead I'm trying to get familiarized with aquascaping...Now im eyeing on my friend's 5 feet tank...kekeke

I'm going to get more stem plants tonight, but what are your recommendations for starter? I just added Red-stem Milfoil and Brazillian Milfoil.

Thanks for providing the hyperlink to the list.

I frequent SS19 NA alot since 2 - 3 years ago, but now only started this hobby.

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post Mar 12 2008, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 11 2008, 10:06 AM)
nice one Chong82, share more of the spec of ur tank. smile.gif

GH is normally <3, unless u add GH+.

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some blur pics of my messy tank... though to take galaxy pic, but so blur.. sad.gif

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wow.... those picture make me feel like i am diving~!!!! thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(cavien @ Mar 11 2008, 10:49 PM)
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WOW! The size is JUST nice. Is an ideal size for me as well, I like NIMO! Why dont you grow some green at the bottom? look even awesome! drool.gif

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TSnezumitaro
post Mar 13 2008, 03:26 PM

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chong don't go for red plant 1st. go for green one 1st. if u really want to try red, get the hardy one rotala red. red plants only add in after ur tank is stable smile.gif

lol ,y crs net blocking me. so very lazy to tidy my tank very jungle now.. so terrible.

here some brigittea.. colors not out yet cos just put them in 1 day ago.

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post Mar 13 2008, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 13 2008, 03:26 PM)
chong don't go for red plant 1st. go for green one 1st.  if u really want to try red, get the hardy one rotala red. red plants only add in after ur tank is stable smile.gif

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I see, I think I mistaken the identity of the red plant I bought, it looks alike, and if i'm not mistaken, the one I bought looks more like Whorly Rotala (Red Rotala). I'll post up more pics and probably some of you guys can identify those plants I bought and comment on it?
TSnezumitaro
post Mar 13 2008, 05:37 PM

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ok ok photo will help.. the red one in pot in my pic.. dont buy those. that is a very sensitive plants, that is why i put them in pot, if die just throw haha no need to clean up their mess.



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post Mar 13 2008, 06:18 PM

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i just started this hobby for 1.5 months.. 2ft gex tank,20w light,3l co2 ,HOB filter,gex soil.
and for ferterlizer i just have ADA brighty k only,what else must i have bcoz the plants are not growth healthy,and become thinner.
1 more question is why after put co2(before this using tablet co2) some plants leaves and roots become yellow ?
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post Mar 14 2008, 08:54 AM

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i am sure the plants are not healthy in your case, its because of not enoguht light..

is your tank 2 X 1 X 1? your tank at least with 45 liter of water, basically u need 45 W of light. if you are keeping stem plants too.

as for the fert, u can get ADA step 1 smile.gif also a 2ft tank, HOB filter is not good enough, u may need a small canister filter.

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post Mar 14 2008, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(-oc-gassa @ Mar 13 2008, 06:18 PM)
i just started this hobby for 1.5 months.. 2ft gex tank,20w light,3l co2 ,HOB filter,gex soil.
and for ferterlizer i just have ADA brighty k only,what else must i have bcoz the plants are not growth healthy,and become thinner.
1 more question is why after put co2(before this using tablet co2) some plants leaves and roots become yellow ?
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HOB filter are not suitable for planted aquarium, it'll blow away all the CO2. Not to say blow but there's another term for it. rclxub.gif
You got only 1 20w light? Too low i think, only around 0.2w per litre. If im not mistaken 0.4 - 0.5w per litre is the minimum. Adding 1 more 20w light might help a bit, but its still consider low light tank. Mine was 2 x 15w light, might change the FL to higher watts...

2 feet tank (standard) = 70+- litres
20w / 70 litres = 0.3w per litre

Where did you get the 20w light? Izzit FL or T5? Post some pics and let the sifu here help you... thumbup.gif

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post Mar 14 2008, 09:57 AM

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HOB filter can be use with tank smaller thank 2ft smile.gif it would 'blow' ur co2 away.. filll the water till the output there smile.gif
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post Mar 14 2008, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 14 2008, 09:57 AM)
HOB filter can be use with tank smaller thank 2ft smile.gif it would 'blow' ur co2 away.. filll the water till the output there smile.gif
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Hi,

I'm using 2 x 15w Azoo super light now, do you know where to get better FL for 2" lamp and what brand you recommend???

Thanks~!! rclxms.gif flex.gif


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post Mar 14 2008, 10:52 AM

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actually wat does the plants help in the aquarium??? give vitamin?
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post Mar 14 2008, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(cassplayer @ Mar 14 2008, 10:52 AM)
actually wat does the plants help in the aquarium??? give vitamin?
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Will help in consuming ammonia deposited from fish or leftover food...and the most of all, it makes your tank looks dam nice~!! rclxms.gif rclxms.gif
It also provide some oxigen for the fishes...


Added on March 14, 2008, 12:10 pmHi all gurus,

Specs:
Tank Size - 2.5 feet (18 gallon)
Nutrafin CO2
Canister Filter
50% planted with stems

The current water from tank chemistry:
Nitrites = < 10mg/l
Nitrates = 0 mg/l
GH = < 3'd
KH = 6 - 10d
PH = 6,4

The current water from house tap water:
Nitrites = < 10mg/l
Nitrates = 0 mg/l
GH = < 3'd
KH = < 6d
PH = 6,4

I'm using JBL 5 in 1 test kit currently for testing the water chemistry and now in the 3rd day of silent cycling process. My question is, according to the test kit, GH < 3'd are not ok, so is there any way to increase the GH level?
I'm quite confused with all the methods in this thread.

Same thing happening to my 10 gallon tank, all the shrimps were KOs...

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 13 2008, 03:26 PM)
chong don't go for red plant 1st. go for green one 1st.  if u really want to try red, get the hardy one rotala red. red plants only add in after ur tank is stable smile.gif

lol ,y crs net blocking me. so very lazy to tidy my tank very jungle now.. so terrible.

here some brigittea.. colors not out yet cos just put them in 1 day ago.

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Ah.... feeling like diving again.... love those tiny fish swimming in front of me..... wub.gif
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chong: Your stem plant in the front right forward of the moss covered DW, its going to overtake your background plants in about 1 month. Suggestion: When you trim, trim as low as possible, then cucuk the new trimmings at the back. Why? So the old plants will have 2 shoots instead of one, and if you lighting and fert enough you gonna have nice bush soon


Added on March 14, 2008, 7:47 pmOh ya... DON'T add any fauna YET!

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post Mar 15 2008, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(geediver @ Mar 14 2008, 07:45 PM)
chong: Your stem plant in the front right forward of the moss covered DW, its going to overtake your background plants in about 1 month. Suggestion: When you trim, trim as low as possible, then cucuk the new trimmings at the back. Why? So the old plants will have 2 shoots instead of one, and if you lighting and fert enough you gonna have nice bush soon


Added on March 14, 2008, 7:47 pmOh ya... DON'T add any fauna YET!
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okie, understood~!! I thougth those at the back will out-grow those at the front...seems i'm wrong about it...tomorrow will go to SLS to pay a visit... rclxms.gif

Oh yea, i've checked the water chemistry these past few days, and notice there's no amonnia spike, so i think the cycle havent start yet. I've studied some 'silent cycling' method and none have mention anything regarding how to start the ammonia spike by having the plant there, so my understanding was if there's no inhabitants and no fish food, so where does the ammonia come from and without that how to start the cycle? Hope i can get some answers here.

Thanks so much for those replying to my post..

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