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TSHansen HKS
post May 24 2017, 10:02 AM, updated 9y ago

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Been using 150cc but honestly feel it is way under power than i expected..

Is the gap between 250cc to 150cc alot? I dont really need that fast speed but 150cc is not a good idea since 150cc can go only around 100-120 km/h.. can go a little bit faster but i think it will be quite vibrating..

I think i need around 140-160 km/h not all the time but n the bike is not exhausted (i dont really know how to describe it but i think u guys know what i mean)..

Disnt really test 250cc but i tested 650cc since my friend is using naza blade 650cc.. the bike is much heavier but the throttle is more macho.. hahahaha

Since the price of naza blade 650cc is around 10-12k second hand with fule injection not carb.. i think it's a good deal..
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post May 24 2017, 10:12 AM

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S1000rr and r1 top up abit.. :'(
Macam top up maxis
TSHansen HKS
post May 24 2017, 10:22 AM

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Is 250cc like "alang - alang"?
TSHansen HKS
post May 24 2017, 10:25 AM

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Hahahahahaha..

Always the problem thooooo..

Dabao anything, especially mcdonald.. they only give paper bag instead of plastic bag that we can hang..


TSHansen HKS
post May 24 2017, 10:33 AM

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Safety first but i think you guys know right.. sometimes when we want to overtake with 150cc is like you want to poop but it stucks..

Not for racing but for daily use..
150 is good enough i think but you can only do it in your dream with 150cc to reach 150km/h

Maintenance for 250cc, is it the same with 650cc?
Like naza blade 650cc the oil engine is around 3.2L..

250cc need that much of amount too? If yes.. better straight to 650cc?

140-160 km/h will be confy on 650cc right? (Based on logic)..

250 and 650 cc riders comment pls.. hahahaa
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post May 24 2017, 10:42 AM

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I am 80-90kg height around 170.. normally i ride my girl at the back to fetch her work also.. her weight is around 50kg..

So normally 80-100km/h..

I am fat overweight.. hahaha
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post May 24 2017, 10:46 AM

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125zr go for 140km/h memang power..

TSHansen HKS
post May 24 2017, 10:56 AM

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Ramai org marah pasal speed ni..

Kena kutuk gao gao..

I think ride 120 is considered as safe riding on normal high way..

Ride 60-80 km/h asik kena horn je..

Ride 60-80 km/h kena kutuk jugak..

Naek bus je lah.. hahahahahaha
TSHansen HKS
post May 24 2017, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ May 24 2017, 11:10 AM)
Based on my past ownership of ZZR250 and Versys650, yea almost same.

Engine oil - 2 botol for both
Oil filter RM30 for 250 RM50 for 650
Petrol 1 tankful about rm26 (given same fuel price) gives me same mileage of 300km, mixed city and hiway riding.
O-ring Chain & sprocket set same for both about rm300+
Tyres 1 set - about RM800 for my 250 and close to rm1k for the 650
basically that's where the similarity in terms of upkeep and running.
it is no brainer for me to pay the same running cost but doesnt get the same enjoyment. so i chose to upgrade.

roadtax is RM50 for 250 and RM250 for 650

power wise 250 is a high revving engine, gotta really throttle it to enjoy the speed - just like kapchais. stock standard condition - u wana go 120 on meter the rpm is already 8k, redline at 12k. u get about 160 tops, 170 maybe in rare occasion. On the 650 going 120 engine rpm only 6k+. squeeze it up to 9k, u get 160 on meter. redline at 11k and u get about 180... on the Er6 where the tuning is slightly different, u can touch 200 at 12k... u run the engine (both 250 & 650) at high rpm for long term, wear and tear is faster - eventually u need to do valve clearance and top overhaul much sooner. so might as well get a bigger one and running the engine un-stressed  at 120-140 so u can ride it long term without much issue.

plus, bigger engine can carry load better than a small engine could and at the same time relatively economical. just an example, back then in 2009 when i was riding to Betong with a friend, both of us carry pillion. he is fatter and heavier than me. i ride zzr 250 while he rides a zx9r. we both fillup full tank in Rawang and rides at the same speed of 120kmh together. when we reach tapah, i have to fillup RM15 for full tank, and he only needs to fillup RM9. simply because for his engine, he is riding at mid-low rpm while i am riding at  8.5k (considered high) rpm.

but then again, for work commute and if your gaji ciput like me, 150cc below is the perfect bike in terms of running and maintenance. everything is cheaper by a large margin compared to 250cc and up, just that on the speed department need to adjust expectations lah. 150cc can run 110-120 but again at high rpm. keep it 80-100 then basically it will be trouble free and safer to boot.
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This kind of comment is the one i have been waiting for.. thanks alot buddy..

Straight to 650cc will be a wise choice right.. yes pls.. hahahaha
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post May 24 2017, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(kapalterbang_737 @ May 24 2017, 11:01 AM)
I changed Naza Blade 4x times edi.. 2x 250 2x 650
I would say go for the 650.. because the weight of bike is almost the same so you will have less power on the 250

Value for money bike i would say, enough power for everyday commute, even for weekend fun

None of my 4 bikes had any problem, never need to leave in workshop whatsoever
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Bang mind if i ask u why do u have 4 bikes with the same cc?

I have read some of ur comments on other post also..very humble and informative.. so basically 250 and 650 weight r around the same? Means it will be very underpower for the 250 class..btw during jam is it gonna be heavy? Bcoz my friend's naza is very heavy.. he rides 650, i tested and it is totally different feeling from my 150cc weight.. hahahha..
My 150cc i think it's heavy but i still can even dance lifting it left and right.. but 650 i read it is around200kg..

Thanks
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post May 24 2017, 02:51 PM

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So basically 650 is worth than 250 no matter what..

Is that the conclusion?

But guys naza blade 650 fuel injection are around 10-12k man.. it's a good deal right
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post May 25 2017, 10:02 AM

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Thanks everyone for the advice.. i will go for 650 or 1000 (if it's a goos deal).. hahaha..

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