QUOTE(Haledoch @ Jul 20 2018, 07:41 AM)
I did try to reason the question from the atheistic point of view. Because the question was from an atheist.
It doesn't make sense for an atheist to form a question using something from the Bible (which he doesn't believe already) when he has no knowledge or has limited knowledge on the subject. The question is based around the existence of evil. Obviously the question being given must first assume that evil is real and does exist in this world. Do you agree?
Hence, it is from that reason why I am questioning an atheist such as you as why do you believe that evil exist when you do not believe God exist?
Where do you based your moral from? Is it based on the current government laws? Do they hold the highest moral standard? As you know each country has their own laws. Which of the country in this world has the highest moral standard? Do we based our moral on their standard? What about Hitler's government called Nazi? Are their laws evil or good? Can you define what is evil from the book of Atheism?
Again another fallacy. Nobody was asking you to use the Bible to answer the question nor was the riddle based on the bible but since this is a catholic thread, you get your attributes of god and evil from the Bible. So what else can you base it on? If one were to ask the Mulsims, surely it won't be the Bible, it will be the Quran and they will have to or attempt to answer it based on the attributes of evil and God in the Quran.It doesn't make sense for an atheist to form a question using something from the Bible (which he doesn't believe already) when he has no knowledge or has limited knowledge on the subject. The question is based around the existence of evil. Obviously the question being given must first assume that evil is real and does exist in this world. Do you agree?
Hence, it is from that reason why I am questioning an atheist such as you as why do you believe that evil exist when you do not believe God exist?
Where do you based your moral from? Is it based on the current government laws? Do they hold the highest moral standard? As you know each country has their own laws. Which of the country in this world has the highest moral standard? Do we based our moral on their standard? What about Hitler's government called Nazi? Are their laws evil or good? Can you define what is evil from the book of Atheism?
We all agree that evil exists, including religions, it goes without saying and is the central premise of the riddle.
You don't know what atheism is (I am not trying to be rude), that's why you are asking the preceding questions. Why should we not believe that evil exists when its real? the same validity doesn't apply to god. Morals or what we base our morals on have nothing to do with atheism. You really think atheists have no morals or we are atheists because we like to commit evil? The opposite is most likely true. Atheism is based on knowledge and critical thinking not ignorance.
I put it to you the only difference between an atheist and a theist really is that we believe in one god less.
Hitler and the Nazi Party members were mostly Catholics (more than 90% of them), please don't attempt to conflate all evils on atheism. Your former Pope; Pope Benedict XVI (Ratzinger) was a Nazi party member!!!
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Answering your questions
Where do you based your moral from?
My morals unlike a theist is subjective and mine is based mostly one a single moral code - The Golden Rule: "do ut des" or it is stated in the Bible as such: Do to others as you would have them do to you - Luke 6:31
Is it based on the current government laws?
No.
Do they hold the highest moral standard?
Atheists? Ofcourse not, there have been several atheist mass murderers in history but these people didn't base their killings on atheism unlike religious killings.
As you know each country has their own laws. Which of the country in this world has the highest moral standard?
Surveys have shown less crime is commited in countries which are less religious. So the inference here is less religion - more higher morals, there is no other explanation.
Do we based our moral on their standard? What about Hitler's government called Nazi? Are their laws evil or good? Can you define what is evil from the book of Atheism?
Answered above.
This post has been edited by zamorin: Jul 20 2018, 09:19 AM
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