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post May 19 2017, 08:46 PM, updated 9y ago

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Abang2 come seesee my humble booth at nsk kuchai lama huehue come give some advice and give me knowledge

Give advice on what u think about this place haha
Thanks to all sifu thst gave me advice earlier and I've came so far for my humble booth.. I've did everything I can for this to happen I give my honest appreciation and thank you to everyone here!


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got frozen sotong guting, i love sotong gunting.
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post May 19 2017, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ May 19 2017, 08:50 PM)
got frozen sotong guting, i love sotong gunting.
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post May 19 2017, 08:57 PM

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post May 19 2017, 09:01 PM

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why la rebut business with the junk food shop?
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post May 19 2017, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(dewill @ May 19 2017, 09:01 PM)
why la rebut business with the junk food shop?
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Free rental bro.. masuk dalam 1 day rm230 I can't afford lul
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QUOTE(hightechgadgets8 @ May 19 2017, 08:57 PM)
passed by yesterday
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Come pass by again hahaha see u around!
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post May 19 2017, 11:07 PM

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Ah, it is so close. I surely will drop by your booth.
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post May 19 2017, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(soul12 @ May 19 2017, 11:07 PM)
Ah, it is so close. I surely will drop by your booth.
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Hehe thank you for your support ! Really appreciate it! Thank you <3
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post May 19 2017, 11:38 PM

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Good luck wei
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post May 20 2017, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ May 19 2017, 11:38 PM)
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thank you bro!!! <3
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post May 20 2017, 02:16 AM

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Hi. I wanted to say something today, I saw your threads but I had not much time until now:

- How do you compare your chips vs one container of fried nga ku? In pricing and weight. Do you feel you can expand until your bag of chips can replace this container jar in CNY?
- Do you still sell original salted taste? Pringles sour cream might swing people to buy the can instead of your chips or Indian tapioca chips, may be cheaper vs your products.
- Have you seen the Pappadam snack in local stores? Especially in Speedmart99. Are you heading in that way of expansion?


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post May 20 2017, 09:44 AM

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All the best bro... will drop by support this weekend
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post May 20 2017, 03:58 PM

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How's business so far especially weekends? NSK Kuchai is like warzone...
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post May 20 2017, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(fu'house @ May 20 2017, 02:16 AM)
Hi. I wanted to say something today, I saw your threads but I had not much time until now:

- How do you compare your chips vs one container of fried nga ku? In pricing and weight. Do you feel you can expand until your bag of chips can replace this container jar in CNY?
- Do you still sell original salted taste? Pringles sour cream might swing people to buy the can instead of your chips or Indian tapioca chips, may be cheaper vs your products.
- Have you seen the Pappadam snack in local stores? Especially in Speedmart99. Are you heading in that way of expansion?
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Hey bro thank you for your concern I will answer base on 1 2

1) I've never want to replace the container during cny I will still continue to do the canister one during cny with my packets. The price and weight is 4 packets equal to 1 canister

2) yes custom make I will do. If customer would like to compare my product to tapioca I got no comment. My product is not potato chips or starch like Pringle. It's different thing.. my thing is considered premium and it must be imported. Potato chips can plant anywhere easily and available throughout the year. So customer need to understand we are premium.. we need time to do personal branding.. just like cashew nut.
3) yes I will be going 99 speed mart. Within 1 or 2 years time. Sorry I'm still oversea now will get back to u for more question soon tqtq
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post May 20 2017, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ May 20 2017, 03:58 PM)
How's business so far especially weekends?  NSK Kuchai is like warzone...
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Haha not bad bro hehe cari makan skit boleh haha
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QUOTE(hackinz @ May 20 2017, 09:44 AM)
All the best bro... will drop by support this weekend
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Thanks bro! Looking forward! Thanks for the support!
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post May 20 2017, 09:39 PM

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post May 21 2017, 11:39 AM

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QUOTE(acepilot12 @ May 19 2017, 08:53 PM)
Hahaha wat dat? XD
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where is your halal logo?
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post May 21 2017, 12:36 PM

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i come out from Nsk 10pm ytday u tutup kedai edi bro...
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post May 21 2017, 02:10 PM

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didn't notice

would have buy it from you if i know about it

booth will be there until when?


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post May 21 2017, 03:35 PM

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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ May 20 2017, 03:58 PM)
How's business so far especially weekends?  NSK Kuchai is like warzone...
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NSK for massage.
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post May 21 2017, 04:11 PM

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QUOTE(K.I.T.T @ May 21 2017, 11:39 AM)
where is your halal logo?
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Haha sorry bro too hard to get so never plan to get it yet. It's long process and high requirement
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post May 21 2017, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(ChickenWing @ May 21 2017, 12:36 PM)
i come out from Nsk 10pm ytday u tutup kedai edi bro...
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Owh yes yesterday my promoter got family emergency so he have to left earlier no worries I'm trying to find new promoter , if u ever drop by there again I really hope I can serve you personally to appreciate your support!
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post May 21 2017, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(loui @ May 21 2017, 02:10 PM)
didn't notice

would have buy it from you if i know about it

booth will be there until when?
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Ohh haha it's available until tonight but I'm planning to open during weekdays also hopefully I'm able to find promoter there? But really thanks bro for your support hopefully I can see u around soon!
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post May 22 2017, 10:21 AM

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QUOTE(acepilot12 @ May 19 2017, 08:46 PM)
Abang2 come seesee my humble booth at nsk kuchai lama huehue come give some advice and give me knowledge

Give advice on what u think about this place haha
Thanks to all sifu thst gave me advice earlier and I've came so far for my humble booth.. I've did everything I can for this to happen I give my honest appreciation and thank you to everyone here!
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Hi Ryan Them biggrin.gif
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post May 22 2017, 02:09 PM

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I bought 3 from the snack shop in NSK Kuchai Lama, 4.90 each.

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Why is there a package inside the package??

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It's really hard to justify the amount.If I buy two,I could instead get a large pack of Hipster chips imported from US,UK,JPN,Korea.Lays sour cream flavor isnt a bad alternative plus it tastes really good also.
Consumers dont really care if they are Arrowhead or Potato chips.

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Taste test:Got some burnt chips in the package when there arent much chips to begin with.The chips are thin and with inconsistent thickness,wish there were just a tat more thicand cruchier.The pack i opened was label Original Flavour but is has sour cream seasonkng in it.Factory error??

I would rate it a generous 3/5.I don't think I would buy it again in a very long time.


HALAL certified Arrowhead Chips is a untapped market.I think it's the direction where your product should go before others.






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post May 22 2017, 02:22 PM

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QUOTE(mattfrank @ May 22 2017, 02:09 PM)
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I bought 3 from the snack shop in NSK Kuchai Lama, 4.90 each.

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Why is there a package inside the package??

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It's really hard to justify the amount.If I buy two,I could instead get a large pack of Hipster chips imported from US,UK,JPN,Korea.Lays sour cream flavor isnt a bad alternative plus it tastes really good also.
Consumers dont really care if they are Arrowhead or Potato chips.

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Taste test:Got some burnt chips in the package when there arent much chips to begin with.The chips are thin and with inconsistent thickness,wish there were just a tat more thicand cruchier.The pack i opened was label Original Flavour but is has sour cream seasonkng in it.Factory error??

I would rate it a generous 3/5.I don't think I would buy it again in a very long time.
HALAL certified Arrowhead Chips is a untapped market.I think it's the direction where your product should go before others.
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Serious rm4.90 per package? Wow..

Looks like it's selling based on weight so if it's 200 grams then still acceptable
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post May 22 2017, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(mattfrank @ May 22 2017, 02:09 PM)
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I bought 3 from the snack shop in NSK Kuchai Lama, 4.90 each.

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Why is there a package inside the package??

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It's really hard to justify the amount.If I buy two,I could instead get a large pack of Hipster chips imported from US,UK,JPN,Korea.Lays sour cream flavor isnt a bad alternative plus it tastes really good also.
Consumers dont really care if they are Arrowhead or Potato chips.

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Taste test:Got some burnt chips in the package when there arent much chips to begin with.The chips are thin and with inconsistent thickness,wish there were just a tat more thicand cruchier.The pack i opened was label Original Flavour but is has sour cream seasonkng in it.Factory error??

I would rate it a generous 3/5.I don't think I would buy it again in a very long time.
HALAL certified Arrowhead Chips is a untapped market.I think it's the direction where your product should go before others.
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Heyy, thank you for purchasing it at nsk kuchai lama.. i will explain to you slowly

1) if you wonder why is there a package inside a package it's because the internal one is to protect the chips from rancidity and avoid crushing during transportation. It should have any problem with the packaging. I really appreciate that you have the curiosity to ask.

2 ) I'm sorry that i couldn't satisfy you but because this arrowhead chips is not potato chips, i honestly can't compete with big companies like lays and product like potato chips. I apologize in this because the cost price is really too high for me. I hope you can give me a chance to improve again as I'm very new company and I do everything manually.

3 ) Again, i apologize regarding the inconsistent thickness but i've spent lots of money in custom making the slicer. This is the best thickness to do the frying in order to cook it 100% in certain period. Yes it stated '' original flavour '' but our company's original stands for sour cream. This is because I have to print the packaging in very very high volume and if majority doesn't accept the sour cream flavour i can still change it to others. If i put sour cream flavour in the packaging and print 5k + pieces it might be a waste.. So to be safe i make it oriignal flavour . For the burnt chips I apologize but i will explain why, as I'm doing it manually there will be some overcooked chips because one time frying is approx 10 packets so cooked earlier and some took longer this is why I will work on buying a machine which will be sure that the chips will not be overcooked or not cooked, I'm very new and there's long way for me to learn and experience, I give my deep apology to you with my humble thank you

4 ) Thank you for rating me I will make sure I can improve more and more in coming months, I'm sorry that I couldn't satisfy your taste bud but I promise that I will make it better and better each time you buy it in coming future.

5 ) I will not get halal so soon as i'm a very poor entrepreneur, i couldn't afford the amount and a shop yet.

If you would like a refund, I will make a full refund to you with a phone call apology, i hope you can give me more chance in coming future and I'm really sorry that I'm not as perfect as Lay's and Hipster's chips or Pringles, I'm a very small dust compare to them. It's a very long journey from the first day until today.. I apologize that I couldn't make the best chips and make you spent for 3 packets that you are not satisfied with. I'm deeply sorry.

Do pm me if you have time, I will personally refund to you and send you new packets. Hope to serve you soon in future, thank you for your feedback
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ May 22 2017, 02:22 PM)
Serious rm4.90 per package? Wow..

Looks like it's selling based on weight so if it's 200 grams then still acceptable
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yes it is RM4.90.. I'm sorry but my cost is really too high for this product. I am not potato chips but I wish i can compete with them.. I do import this product from overseas and require lots of process before putting it into a packaging. I apologize in that it's a little pricey. Compare to cashew nut I think my product should stand like them but not potato chips. I apologize again but I promise I will do my very best to satisfy the majority, hope to serve you in near future ! ^^
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QUOTE(prozdennis @ May 22 2017, 10:21 AM)
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QUOTE(acepilot12 @ May 22 2017, 04:29 PM)
yes it is RM4.90.. I'm sorry but my cost is really too high for this product. I am not potato chips but I wish i can compete with them.. I do import this product from overseas and require lots of process before putting it into a packaging. I apologize in that it's a little pricey. Compare to cashew nut I think my product should stand like them but not potato chips. I apologize again but I promise I will do my very best to satisfy the majority, hope to serve you in near future ! ^^
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ok. thanks for the explanation..
btw, i assuming u selling based on gram rite? how many gram per packet?

i love cashew nut alot.. in fact, i bought raw and goreng them myself.. lol..
damn expensive wey.. 1kg rm50

anyway, good luck~~!!!! all the best rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(xcxa23 @ May 22 2017, 04:40 PM)
ok. thanks for the explanation..
btw, i assuming u selling based on gram rite? how many gram per packet?

i love cashew nut alot.. in fact, i bought raw and goreng them myself.. lol..
damn expensive wey.. 1kg rm50

anyway, good luck~~!!!!  all the best  rclxms.gif
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Yes it is base on gram, each packet is 40 grams nett ( exclude weight of packaging ) so is all base on the chips only

Yesyes i love cashew nut too! it's quite pricey and I'm too poor for that haha , how do you goreng them? would really love to know more haha it's also a pricey product XD

thank youuu! i would definitely do my best hehe with your wish I'm sure I can make this better and better! ^^ <3 <3 <3
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QUOTE(acepilot12 @ May 22 2017, 04:27 PM)
Heyy, thank you for purchasing it at nsk kuchai lama.. i will explain to you slowly

1) if you wonder why is there a package inside a package it's because the internal one is to protect the chips from rancidity and avoid crushing during transportation. It should have any problem with the packaging. I really appreciate that you have the curiosity to ask.

2 ) I'm sorry that i couldn't satisfy you but because this arrowhead chips is not potato chips, i honestly can't compete with big companies like lays and product like potato chips. I apologize in this because the cost price is really too high for me. I hope you can give me a chance to improve again as I'm very new company and I do everything manually.

3 ) Again, i apologize regarding the inconsistent thickness but i've spent lots of money in custom making the slicer. This is the best thickness to do the frying in order to cook it 100% in certain period. Yes it stated '' original flavour '' but our company's original stands for sour cream. This is because I have to print the packaging in very very high volume and if majority doesn't accept the sour cream flavour i can still change it to others. If i put sour cream flavour in the packaging and print 5k + pieces it might be a waste.. So to be safe i make it oriignal flavour . For the burnt chips I apologize but i will explain why, as I'm doing it manually there will be some overcooked chips because one time frying is approx 10 packets so cooked earlier and some took longer this is why I will work on buying a machine which will be sure that the chips will not be overcooked or not cooked, I'm very new and there's long way for me to learn and experience, I give my deep apology to you with my humble thank you

4 ) Thank you for rating me I will make sure I can improve more and more in coming months, I'm sorry that I couldn't satisfy your taste bud but I promise that I will make it better and better each time you buy it in coming future.

5 ) I will not get halal so soon as i'm a very poor entrepreneur, i couldn't afford the amount and a shop yet.

If you would like a refund, I will make a full refund to you with a phone call apology, i hope you can give me more chance in coming future and I'm really sorry that I'm not as perfect as Lay's and Hipster's chips or Pringles, I'm a very small dust compare to them. It's a very long journey from the first day until today.. I apologize that I couldn't make the best chips and make you spent for 3 packets that you are not satisfied with. I'm deeply sorry.

Do pm me if you have time, I will personally refund to you and send you new packets. Hope to serve you soon in future, thank you for your feedback
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Nah,I'm not saying your chips are unpalatable or asking for a refund.I just wanna give you my honest opinion so you can get a better idea on how you could improve your product.

The Ngagu chips people have known for years have always been lightly salted.Id would advise not making Sour Cream flavour the original,as a lot of auntie $ uncle aren't fond of this Western flavour.


I wish you many success.

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QUOTE(mattfrank @ May 22 2017, 04:52 PM)
Nah,I'm not saying your chips are unpalatable or asking for a refund.I just wanna give you my honest opinion so you can get a better idea on how you could improve your product.

The Ngagu chips people have known for years have always been lightly salted.Id would advise not making Sour Cream flavour the original,as a lot of auntie $  uncle aren't fond of this Western flavour.
I wish you many success.
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thank you thank you.. thank you for your honest opinion from this i can make more and more improvement and i promise I will.

Your advise I will note it down and discuss with the owner, maybe i will make 2 types and customers can choose from there.. thank you again hope to serve you in near future, i appreciate everything you said to me thank you! <3
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Let me break down a bit & address few different points.

QUOTE(acepilot12 @ May 22 2017, 04:27 PM)
1 ) if you wonder why is there a package inside a package it's because the internal one is to protect the chips from rancidity and avoid crushing during transportation. It should have any problem with the packaging. I really appreciate that you have the curiosity to ask.
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The external one is supposed to protect the chips from both rancidity & crushing. Crushing wise, that's why you have to pump air into it so that it acts as a cushion. Try to squeeze Twisties or Mr Potato packets & you'll know what I mean. Is it cheaper to use one good quality package vs your current internal + external package? I thought you double pack because your external package from China isn't safe for food lol.

QUOTE(acepilot12 @ May 22 2017, 04:27 PM)
2 ) I'm sorry that i couldn't satisfy you but because this arrowhead chips is not potato chips, i honestly can't compete with big companies like lays and product like potato chips. I apologize in this because the cost price is really too high for me. I hope you can give me a chance to improve again as I'm very new company and I do everything manually.
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Probably you need to stop marketing it as a snack or chips? Dunno how many people jump at your price already. The moment you do, people start comparing it with their regular snacks which is way cheaper than yours & then they get heart attack with your price.

I'm selling soaps for RM40. Ordinary soap is RM5 only. If I go around telling people I'm selling soap, of course it won't sell. Have to justify why it's worth RM40 & make people go "Oh yea, this item is usually around RM40 anyway". That's how Starbucks manage to sell their coffee & Chatime sells their bubble tea. Of course there'll be people who will say "Crazy, RM2 kopi selling for RM15" or "RM3 sugar water selling for RM7". You can't please everyone, so the key is to either please the majority (mass market) or the minority who can afford (niche market).

QUOTE(acepilot12 @ May 22 2017, 04:27 PM)
4 ) Thank you for rating me I will make sure I can improve more and more in coming months, I'm sorry that I couldn't satisfy your taste bud but I promise that I will make it better and better each time you buy it in coming future.
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You can't please everyone's taste bud. Just don't compromise on your product quality & safety.


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QUOTE(NightHeart @ May 22 2017, 08:01 PM)
Let me break down a bit & address few different points.
The external one is supposed to protect the chips from both rancidity & crushing. Crushing wise, that's why you have to pump air into it so that it acts as a cushion. Try to squeeze Twisties or Mr Potato packets & you'll know what I mean. Is it cheaper to use one good quality package vs your current internal + external package? I thought you double pack because your external package from China isn't safe for food lol.
Probably you need to stop marketing it as a snack or chips? Dunno how many people jump at your price already. The moment you do, people start comparing it with their regular snacks which is way cheaper than yours & then they get heart attack with your price.

I'm selling soaps for RM40. Ordinary soap is RM5 only. If I go around telling people I'm selling soap, of course it won't sell. Have to justify why it's worth RM40 & make people go "Oh yea, this item is usually around RM40 anyway". That's how Starbucks manage to sell their coffee & Chatime sells their bubble tea. Of course there'll be people who will say "Crazy, RM2 kopi selling for RM15" or "RM3 sugar water selling for RM7". You can't please everyone, so the key is to either please the majority (mass market) or the minority who can afford (niche market).
You can't please everyone's taste bud. Just don't compromise on your product quality & safety.
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1 ) Yes at first I was having some problem with the packaging but I've talked to the supplier about that and also i've bring it to one of my friend that manufacture packaging. He say that my material used is same as the one that mister potato , lays but the problem that i have is that the external part ( the 1 part that face outside ) has a problem with the ink. My previous printer used some cheap ink that can easily wash off. So now I need to change everything to avoid the packaging change the taste of the arrowhead..

But really thank you for the second part, I think i need to look into that.. Just like you say RM2 kopi selling RM15 but still got people buy.. I think it's really about how they brand themself? I will take note in this part and make sure that everything is good again before i expand bigger.. I honestly appreciate your advice and I will keep it as gold and implement it into my snacks, with your advice and opinion i'm sure i can go further if i implement it, very thank you. I will take note in this ^^
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QUOTE(acepilot12 @ May 22 2017, 10:56 PM)
1 ) Yes at first I was having some problem with the packaging but I've talked to the supplier about that and also i've bring it to one of my friend that manufacture packaging. He say that my material used is same as the one that mister potato , lays but the problem that i have is that the external part ( the 1 part that face outside ) has a problem with the ink. My previous printer used some cheap ink that can easily wash off. So now I need to change everything to avoid the packaging change the taste of the arrowhead..

But really thank you for the second part, I think i need to look into that.. Just like you say RM2 kopi selling RM15 but still got people buy.. I think it's really about how they brand themself? I will take note in this part and make sure that everything is good again before i expand bigger.. I honestly appreciate your advice and I will keep it as gold and implement it into my snacks, with your advice and opinion i'm sure i can go further if i implement it, very thank you. I will take note in this ^^
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So if you use better ink (better quality packaging), it'll be cheaper than external + internal packaging? I'm not familiar with this honestly lol, just throwing food for thoughts to you only.

Because you buy directly from China without technical experience, probably that's why you can't ask for sample printing first for you to check & test quality. Maybe for now, no choice just pay a bit higher price to get the packaging locally. Once you expert already & know the exact specs that you need only go to China source. Even that also sometimes those PRC will try to con you, so be careful la when you're in China - talk, discuss & paid for specs A but deliver specs B to you.

Branding is different, it's when Starbucks vs Coffee Beans (direct competitor), why should buy Starbucks's RM15 coffee vs Coffee Beans's RM15 coffee? But for Starbucks vs Kopitiam (indirect competitor), "why should buy Starbucks's RM15 coffee vs RM2 kopi", it's called Product Positioning.

 

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