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post May 17 2017, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 10:19 AM)
Usually technical guys like software or coding people will use iphone, iphone anytime better than stupid android. Samsung always offer stupid high performance spec on paper but in real they could not performed as good as iphone. ios is brilliant compare to stupid android os.
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yes Google is very stupid.

indeed.

ios is brilliantttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

said no one
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post May 17 2017, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ May 17 2017, 10:06 AM)
my ipad mini2 been having lagging issue lately. that is despite i have never updated the iOS since day 1. and no other games too, just 1 candy crush.  care to explain why it lags?
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Everybody definition of lag is different. Some ppl, a small lag , also u call lag. Some ppl freaking bad lag like those old samsungs and asus then only call lag.

How bad is your lag? Post video la. Btw , ur mini 2 is pretty old. So some minor lag is not surprising.
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post May 17 2017, 10:23 AM

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Thing about the S8 is that the screens aren't literally as big as you'd expect it to be.
Since screens are measured diagonally, and in the case of the S8 it is stretched to an 18:9 ratio.

What this means is that you don't have more screen estate to work on, you have more screen to reach because it's so long.
If I'm Samsung I'll accurately state the surface area of the screen instead of the outdated diagonally measured screen size. It makes a false impression.
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post May 17 2017, 10:23 AM

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so many butthurt android users in this thread. Tech geek must only use android phone issit? what do you call Linus then? snob
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post May 17 2017, 10:25 AM

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S8 is a good phone. But the problem is the price. At that price , its totally not worth it.

And besides the screen, i cant find a single Unique selling point that will make me want to change to S8. Its just too normal and feels like a slightly upgraded s7 edge


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QUOTE(andrewhtf @ May 17 2017, 10:06 AM)
my ipad mini2 been having lagging issue lately. that is despite i have never updated the iOS since day 1. and no other games too, just 1 candy crush.  care to explain why it lags?
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my ipad mini 1 since 2013 until today ok je.
updated last with iOS 9.0.

use it mainly for work, youtube and to browse /k.
no games, i hate mobile games.



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post May 17 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(manypplwan @ May 17 2017, 10:23 AM)
so many butthurt android users in this thread. Tech geek must only use android phone issit? what do you call Linus then? snob
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>Android is the best! iOS SUCKKKK
>have you used an iPhone before?
>no, because apple suck



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post May 17 2017, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(fabianz03 @ May 17 2017, 10:23 AM)
Thing about the S8 is that the screens aren't literally as big as you'd expect it to be.
Since screens are measured diagonally, and in the case of the S8 it is stretched to an 18:9 ratio.

What this means is that you don't have more screen estate to work on, you have more screen to reach because it's so long.
If I'm Samsung I'll accurately state the surface area of the screen instead of the outdated diagonally measured screen size. It makes a false impression.
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That's why you are not Samsung or part of their marketing team.

It's mmg their main purpose to create a false impression. They didn't mislead because it's still a fact, just that it create a form of an impression that the screen is big. whistling.gif

Is marketing...
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post May 17 2017, 10:27 AM

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Been using IOS for 5 years, love the speed, fluidity, stablity and better app quality.

Changed to android because fucuking too many constrains in IOS. Transfer one file also susah. IOS can't even transfer using cable without itunes installed. I can live with a laggier phone.
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Where is the songlap guy who like to bash appflefags? biggrin.gif.
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post May 17 2017, 10:28 AM

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So you guys literally read what TS wrote? What TS wrote?

S8+ is a piece of garbage that have poor quality and can't last more than 1.5 years? Yea... come to iPhone, mmg tahan lazak and can update to latest iOS version in future lagi. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 10:19 AM)
Usually technical guys like software or coding people will use iphone, iphone anytime better than stupid android. Samsung always offer stupid high performance spec on paper but in real they could not performed as good as iphone. ios is brilliant compare to stupid android os.
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Sorry, i do prefer using nokia S60.. battery 1 week.. nokia 6120 classic rock till now ..
Iphone only for lazy user and i have been mention many times the annoyance movin from android to iphone..
Yes iphone got better graphic and spec compare to android..
But to said android stupid don't They both linux core also.. not diff.

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post May 17 2017, 10:29 AM

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LG, Samsung pioneer 18:9 screen = Omg, so stupid, no one support that ratio, video, game all look ugly.

iphone 8 (or 8S or 9) adapt 18:9 screen = Wow, so innovation, much pretty.


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QUOTE(pekak07 @ May 17 2017, 08:55 AM)
A little history about me, who I consider myself as one of those called - the tech geek. I ventured into this never ending smartphone game a couple of years back, where my first phone was the Blackberry Storm 2 (it was the first pressure sensitive screen in its own ways yo). And just to name a few phones I have possessed in recent history, just to sorta prove my credentials here - Iphone 5, Iphone 6s, LG Nexus 5, LG G6, LG V10, Samsung S6 Edge, Samsung S7 Edge, Samsung S8+, Huawei Nexus 6P, Google Pixel, HTC Cha Cha, HTC M7, HTC M8, HTC M9, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Z10, Blackkberry Passport, Nokia N9, Nokia Lumia 800, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lenovo Z2 Pro, Sony Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Xperia Z3, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xiaomi Mi3, Xiaomi Mi4, Xiaomi Note, Xiaomi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X, Motorola Droid Maxx and of course a couple that I have missed out. An not just that, the accessories that I have invested in my phones are monstrous. Back then when tempered glass wasn't even a thing I have spent at least thousands trying out different brands around the world, your Mimo Spigen Imos bla bla bla. I even resorted to nano liquid screen protectors, only to hope to find the perfect smartphone.  Anyway, the story here is about the two giants - The Iphone 7+ and the Samsung Galaxy S8+.

With no argument, the S8+ beats the Iphone in all ways aesthetics, and tahts the reason it only took me a heartbeat to pre order this beauty. I'm not gonna talk specs and functions, reviewers around the world will favour the S8+ and no one will disagree, I won't. The S8+ is stunning. So why did I fall back to my, which I would love to call it, the trustworthy Iphone 7+?

18.5 to 9 Screen Ratio

From my experience with phones, first hands on experience that leads to how big the smartphone is, is the width of the phone. Sure Samsung would have done thousands of surveys and focus groups to come to the same conclusion. Small phone, big screen, small width. Tara. So what's the problem here? If samsung, or LG, has decided to maintain the 16 to 9 screen ratio with the width of the S8 there isn't enough marketing noise. It's gonna be another 5.2" smartphone with better body ratio. So, let's increase the height! Now we get infinity display, 84% screen to body ratio, 5.7" screen in a compact body unheard of! Kudos to Samsung it bloody works, paired with 2k super AMOLED screen up to 1000 nits in brightness is amazing feat, claps.

But the thing is, aesthetics over functionality. That is when I first tried the S8, only to realize despite its marketed 5.7" screen, the narrow width makes everything seems....Iphone 5 ish?? Most especially felt during typing. So I quickly got the bigger brother, the plus. Felt much better instantly. many will argue that the transition is here, is real, accept it. 4:3 to 16:9 now 18:9, fine, I'll use it for a month to get myself used to it!

I did not, sadly. Seriously the only experience I'm gonna miss leaving this screen ratio is my e-book reading experience. That's all. Videos are just not produced in that format yet, yeah crop to fit and lose the tops and bottoms, not cool. Most of the games are rendered in 16:9, yeah force the immersion only to find many games have misaligned issues, especially in the game menus. I'm not here to argue that you have to give time for devs and video makers to start adapting the new ratio. Yes it takes time but the problem is, are they, the masses out there, are they gonna adapt? Unless I see all manufacturers start jumping into the ratio, which I don't, we might see mass adoption. On a separate case, if apple decides to trail on this, we might see that happen. And I'm taking an intellectual guess here, this ratio isn't here to stay.

The almighty bezeless display

The first name most would call upon, as a leader to this revolution, the Mi MIX, or the less known Sharp Aquos. NO! Surprise surprise, it's actually SONY. Don't believe me? Check this lil  brother to the original Xperia Z, the Sony Xperia ZL. Was not heavily marketed beside his bigger brother, and guess the smartphone market back then wasn't aware of small bezels.

My argument is, are these actually practical? First of all, they are bloody fragile. with the panels so close to the frame, they are destined to crack upon impact. History proves it, and still is.

Hand gymnastics. Although the Mi Mix, or the S8+, is extremely gorgeous, I find myself having a hard time to navigate around the screen. I have very little room to grip at the bottom when I type. I have a hard time reaching for the pull down notification from the top, clear notifications, interact with notifications. I have a hard time playing games with little grip on the side (you hold your phone, but your thumbs are shrunk into an awkward position to interact with the controls - Fifa, Mobile Legend etc.).

The Operating System

It's official, the S8 packs the best of the best specs on earth. 10nm processor architecture, Bluetooth 5.1, UFS 2.1 bla bla bla. For a tech person, or a tech audience like LYN members, it means a bloody lot. It means that we feel appreciated when we know manufacturers dish out the best of the best. But to others it means crap. And to the ah lian and ah bengs they only care about screen size and mega pixels.

So you and your sweet S8+ is still probably in a romantic honey moon period, where you glance at here even when there is no notifications, or when the screen is off, to my knowledge some forumers even lick them, yes the S8 fetish. Well mine was a short vacation, honeymoon period all over after the first week. What matters to me next is the user experience. And heads up, the Apple ecosystem beats it flat flat flat.

It's not Samsung's, or Android's fault here, at least on their own. They both offer the best techs, software and hardware the world could ask for. But it's the marriage that's at fault here. I love the customization and the open ecosystem on Android. I used to customize every single detail I could possibly tweak, I own hundreds of widget packs, I browse deviantart and mycolorscreen for inspirations. I love the fact I could download torrent on my phone. I love the pirated APKs. I love the rooting and the kernel level tweaks. I love IFTTT. I love comparing SOT after knowing some guys out in XDA tweaks the CPU and GPU better than stock baked ones. I love trying out different roms. I love all that. I do also love - CONSISTENCY.

If anyone here is willing to debate that Android is more reliable, more consistent, and smoother than IOS, I'm sure you have not used one yet. Take the fanboy out of you and start dealing it like a real man. The integration in the Apple ecosystem is just better. The apps on the Appstore is just plain fluid. The apps are just more polished on IOS, even Google's own offering. I play games on Iphones with close to no frame drops. I don't care if devs optimize them better, I don't care if Samsung needs to power double the pixels, I only want a fluid experience, that's all that matters. And sadly, I experience micro stutters all around the S8+, heck it even loses out to the OP3T and the pixel. So can we conclude that Touchwiz is still culprit here?

Of course there are the minor considerations of future updates, continuity, the  hardware flaws (fingerprint misplacement), single bottom firing speakers etc. These I can compensate for I know no smartphone is perfect.

And for those reasons above, I'm back to an Iphone 7+.
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well said...i tried many times using andriod..but in the end..apple ecosystem is so supreme..no contest here
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post May 17 2017, 10:32 AM

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Nokia 3310 > Iphone 5, Iphone 6s, LG Nexus 5, LG G6, LG V10, Samsung S6 Edge, Samsung S7 Edge, Samsung S8+, Huawei Nexus 6P, Google Pixel, HTC Cha Cha, HTC M7, HTC M8, HTC M9, Blackberry Bold, Blackberry Z10, Blackkberry Passport, Nokia N9, Nokia Lumia 800, Nokia Lumia 1020, Lenovo Z2 Pro, Sony Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 Xperia Z3, Xperia Z5 Premium, Xiaomi Mi3, Xiaomi Mi4, Xiaomi Note, Xiaomi Note 2, Xiaomi Mi Mix, Motorola Droid Turbo, Moto X, Motorola Droid Maxx
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talk about android,

i will go with 3 options

1st) google!, nexus and now pixel (pure android is best)

2nd) OnePlus, a big team of people who uses the pure android and customize and tweak

3rd) name a manufacture who do the less bloatware. (sorry, samsung is not this category)
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post May 17 2017, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(SugarBB @ May 17 2017, 10:19 AM)
Usually technical guys like software or coding people will use iphone, iphone anytime better than stupid android. Samsung always offer stupid high performance spec on paper but in real they could not performed as good as iphone. ios is brilliant compare to stupid android os.
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i fall into that group you mention

and i say ios susah buat kerja sial
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how about battery performance

as far as i know ip charging and batt life sux

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