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post Jun 6 2017, 11:40 PM

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QUOTE(tsg_7 @ Jun 3 2017, 03:43 PM)
I think TS,s job is surveyor...
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I would like to describe my job as a legal professional by day, and a car's safety activist by night. I can be found "roaming" around the area of Putrajaya, especially in and around the Palace of Justice and the Attorney General's Chamber. I can also be found around Bangi/Kajang, where my alma mater is located.
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post Jun 6 2017, 11:55 PM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jun 6 2017, 10:46 PM)
Thanks

The last one. I often saw people put phone mount holder too close tl where the airbags will potentially deploy. I once put it near the most right hand side of the windscreen and realised it was mounted too close to the curtain airbag "hole"

Cant imagine if the airbag deploys and the holder hit the driver. Cause of death = phone holder and airbag, that wud be pointless to have many airbags if that kind of object kill us insted
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You mean this hole as pointed by the red pointer here?

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Oh that "hole". I just realized that the side airbags in Iriz is not "full on" or complete. That hole was there for a reason. I need to do more research on this.

Iriz's side airbags are not just VERTICALLY short, it also HORIZONTALLY short too.

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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 6 2017, 10:58 AM)
I prefer more on Qoros 3 SUV design...
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BLIMEY!

You know. For someone who's coming from P.E.R.O.D.U.A, you do have a good taste.

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post Jun 7 2017, 01:31 AM

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QUOTE(maxizanc @ Jun 6 2017, 08:57 PM)
Good observation ts on the iriz curtain airbags. Hopefully they rectify it soon.

Anyway my sitting position also quite far from steering wheel. If too close, it wont be confortable as i have a very quite long pair of arm. Am i in trouble?
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post Jun 7 2017, 01:59 AM

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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Jun 3 2017, 04:05 PM)
-7 airbags
- ABD EBD VSC BA TRC
- HPF. Steel Body
- Build as a tank
- 19 inch rims
- Top Speed 270KM/h
- Euro NCAP 5 stars at 150KM Crash
Would people want this safe car? Who is going to pay for its fc, maintenance? Yup the buyers.

People would prefer a
Good basic reliable cheap maintenance and good fc car. Cap weight at 900-1000KGs. Dont build tank that sucks petrol. Safety is important, but make sure your car can sell first, Mr Proton.

Market no money to afford Proton tank already.
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Proton Preve's Side Airbags - Does it live up to the industry's standards?

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post Jun 7 2017, 05:25 AM

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QUOTE(syafiqsm @ Jun 6 2017, 11:55 PM)
You mean this hole as pointed by the red pointer here?

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Oh that "hole". I just realized that the side airbags in Iriz is not "full on" or complete. That hole was there for a reason. I need to do more research on this.

Iriz's side airbags are not just VERTICALLY short, it also HORIZONTALLY short too.
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Yes wtf

Why looks like no airbag comes from that hole?
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post Jun 7 2017, 12:37 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Jun 7 2017, 08:05 AM)
westerner leg long mah , asian short leg with tummy how
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TS FINAL COMMENTARY


THE PREVE & SUPRIMA S

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When I first embarked on this research, the intention was to answer one simple question: "What is the SAFEST and MOST AFFORDABLE car in Malaysia?". Throughout my 9-month of exploration, it was apparent from the outset that Proton cars with HPF steels will emerge as the answer to this question. But it was not just ALL Proton cars with HPF steels. It's just THAT Proton cars.

Proton Preve was truly a game changer as far as car’s safety in Malaysia is concerned. Before Preve was conceived, almost all cars sold in Malaysia were nothing more than "tin milo". Malaysia had became a dumping ground by first world carmakers to dump their third world products. Granted, Japanese are not known for producing cars with strong body back then. Not many people have heard about Hot Press Forming, High Strength Steels, Ultra High Strength Steels, and Advanced High Strength Steels in those years.

Then, came the Preve. Unfortunately, its entry into local car scene as a 5-Star ANCAP rated was not that spectacular. In 2012, the very year it was launched, it became a laughing stock for the public when one of the test drive cars had involved in an accident which caused the car's lower arm to break. The photo was taken by a passerby at an angle that made the immobile Preve looked "funny". It was like a runway model that falls halfway through. It had became an amusement to some. It was not until a few years later in 2014, when Amalina, a nurse from Terengganu got involved in a freak accident on LPT highway. The car's engine was ejected a few metres away. Some people were quick to conclude that there was something wrong with the Preve’s overall quality. However, they failed to note that the only thing that matter, the occupant herself suffered no injury and was able to walk like nothing had happened.

It was the case like this that had opened people’s eyes to what safe car can do in a serious accident like Amalina’s. As time goes by, more and more serious accidents involving Preve started to emerge. Some of these did make it to social media and became a viral sensation. While some just went under the radar and unknown to most people. Fast forward to this day, there are so many accidents that have become a living proof of Preve's indisputable safety.

Preve is a VERY SAFE CAR, so does its sibling, the Suprima. If we remove those who didn’t wear the seatbelts out of the numbers, there were ONLY TWO (2) fatalities recorded over the course of 5 YEARS! While the "SUPREME" has successfully blocked all catastrophic and life-threatening intrusions from ever reaching its occupants inside. There was NO DEATH recorded in Proton Suprima since it was launched back in 2013! You tell me what are other cars in the Malaysian market sub-100k that possess such an audacity in relentlessly protecting its occupants? Proton Preve & Suprima should be awarded a Medal of Valor for the service rendered. It's a job well done.

Please continue the "activism" in encouraging Rakyat to buy safe cars. If they value their lives and the lives of the loved ones, they don't have to break the bank just to afford one. It's not hard to figure it out. It's the very car that they may see everyday on the road.

The research that I have done is of course “unscientific”. The intention is to impart knowledge and instill awareness on the Rakyat, rather than to please peer-review experts. I would encourage “real researchers” in quantitative field to take up this for a further research. Write it up and make publications. It’s a very interesting topic!

Today, I unequivocally declare that Proton Preve is the SAFEST and MOST AFFORDABLE car in Malaysia! while the Suprima takes the runner-up spot. This is not because the Suprima is less safe than the Preve, but because it is pricier.


HIATUS

I may not be able to frequent this thread all that much from now on. I have to answer a higher calling. I have been re-assigned to a new team that will be dealing with a very important project. I need to retire being a "car safety activist" in Lowyat's Kopitiam. grin.gifgrin.gifgrin.gifgrin.gifgrin.gif


I would appreciate if you guys could keep the STAT COUNTER updated should a new fatality arises:


STAT COUNTER:

- Total Reported Number of Deaths for Each Model (as of 30th May 2017) -

[1] Proton PREVE: 5 deaths (since 2012)

[2] Proton SUPRIMA S: NONE (since 2013)

[3] Proton IRIZ: 4 deaths (since 2014)

[4] Proton PERSONA (2nd Gen): NONE (since 2016)


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there was a fatal accident in Kuala Pilah this morning. The Preve driver died.. ohmy.gif

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Seorang maut, tujuh cedera dalam kemalangan jalan raya

12 Jun 2017 11:59 AM
KUALA PILAH 12 Jun - Seorang lelaki maut manakala tujuh lagi cedera selepas terlibat dalam kemalangan membabitkan tiga kenderaan di Kampung Inas di sini pagi tadi.

Dalam kejadian kira-kira pukul 8.20 pagi itu, mangsa berusia 50-an, yang merupakan pemandu Proton Preve meninggal dunia di lokasi kejadian manakala empat lelaki dalam kenderaan itu cedera.


Difahamkan, dua wanita yang menaiki kereta Proton Exora mengalami kecederaan parah. 


Kemalangan turut melibatkan seorang wanita yang menunggang motosikal jenis Honda Wave.


Ketua Operasi dari Balai Bomba dan Penyelamat Kuala Pilah, Adnan Yaacob berkata, seramai tujuh anggota bergegas ke lokasi kejadian bersama dua jentera sebaik menerima panggilan kecemasan pada pukul 8.27 pagi.


“Setibanya di lokasi kejadian, semua mangsa dalam dua kenderaan itu telah dikeluarkan oleh orang awam.


“Kemalangan mengakibatkan kereta jenis Proton Preve yang terbakar 30 peratus di bahagian enjin. Seorang daripada lapan mangsa nahas disahkan meninggal dunia oleh pihak hospital,” katanya ketika dihubungi hari ini.


Adnan berkata, mayat dan mangsa yang cedera dihantar ke Hospital Tuanku Ampuan Najihah di sini. - UTUSAN ONLINE

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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 12 2017, 12:58 PM)
such a spoiler news to the tered's grand finale
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i didn't realize TS sudah pencen laugh.gif
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QUOTE(joe_kopitiam @ Jun 12 2017, 12:53 PM)
can an unbuckled rear passenger cause so much damage?  unsure.gif
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Yes, a lot of damage.

WARNING!!! A bit of gore

https://www.facebook.com/DailyTrafficReport...hc_location=ufi
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post Jun 12 2017, 01:37 PM

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This is a good reminder to buckle up behind, pity the front occupants




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post Jun 12 2017, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Toyoi @ Jun 12 2017, 12:58 PM)
such a spoiler news to the tered's grand finale
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Driver died due to impact from rear passenger not buckled down.

Cabin still intact. Front and rear doors still can open.

kesian Toyoi pancut awal.
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QUOTE(joe_kopitiam @ Jun 12 2017, 12:53 PM)
there was a fatal accident in Kuala Pilah this morning. The Preve driver died..  ohmy.gif
can an unbuckled rear passenger cause so much damage?  unsure.gif
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/...r-in-crash.html

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During a car accident at 30mph (about 50kmh) , a typical rear passenger is flung forward at 30mph with a force of 3.5tons. That is enough to crush the driver or front passenger fatally. The heavier the passenger, the more damage they cause.


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QUOTE(sanadi @ Jun 12 2017, 01:21 PM)
Yes, a lot of damage.

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shit guys now i'm gonna insist my passengers to buckle up too sweat.gif
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QUOTE(syafiqsm @ Jun 7 2017, 11:52 PM)
TS FINAL COMMENTARY
THE PREVE & SUPRIMA S

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When I first embarked on this research, the intention was to answer one simple question: "What is the SAFEST and MOST AFFORDABLE car in Malaysia?". Throughout my 9-month of exploration, it was apparent from the outset that Proton cars with HPF steels will emerge as the answer to this question. But it was not just ALL Proton cars with HPF steels. It's just THAT Proton cars.

Proton Preve was truly a game changer as far as car’s safety in Malaysia is concerned. Before Preve was conceived, almost all cars sold in Malaysia were nothing more than "tin milo". Malaysia had became a dumping ground by first world carmakers to dump their third world products. Granted, Japanese are not known for producing cars with strong body back then. Not many people have heard about Hot Press Forming, High Strength Steels, Ultra High Strength Steels, and Advanced High Strength Steels in those years.

Then, came the Preve. Unfortunately, its entry into local car scene as a 5-Star ANCAP rated was not that spectacular. In 2012, the very year it was launched, it became a laughing stock for the public when one of the test drive cars had involved in an accident which caused the car's lower arm to break. The photo was taken by a passerby at an angle that made the immobile Preve looked "funny". It was like a runway model that falls halfway through. It had became an amusement to some. It was not until a few years later in 2014, when Amalina, a nurse from Terengganu got involved in a freak accident on LPT highway. The car's engine was ejected a few metres away. Some people were quick to conclude that there was something wrong with the Preve’s overall quality. However, they failed to note that the only thing that matter, the occupant herself suffered no injury and was able to walk like nothing had happened.

It was the case like this that had opened people’s eyes to what safe car can do in a serious accident like Amalina’s. As time goes by, more and more serious accidents involving Preve started to emerge. Some of these did make it to social media and became a viral sensation. While some just went under the radar and unknown to most people. Fast forward to this day, there are so many accidents that have become a living proof of Preve's indisputable safety.

Preve is a VERY SAFE CAR, so does its sibling, the Suprima. If we remove those who didn’t wear the seatbelts out of the numbers, there were ONLY TWO (2) fatalities recorded over the course of 5 YEARS! While the "SUPREME" has successfully blocked all catastrophic and life-threatening intrusions from ever reaching its occupants inside. There was NO DEATH recorded in Proton Suprima since it was launched back in 2013! You tell me what are other cars in the Malaysian market sub-100k that possess such an audacity in relentlessly protecting its occupants? Proton Preve & Suprima should be awarded a Medal of Valor for the service rendered. It's a job well done.

Please continue the "activism" in encouraging Rakyat to buy safe cars. If they value their lives and the lives of the loved ones, they don't have to break the bank just to afford one. It's not hard to figure it out. It's the very car that they may see everyday on the road.

The research that I have done is of course “unscientific”. The intention is to impart knowledge and instill awareness on the Rakyat, rather than to please peer-review experts. I would encourage “real researchers” in quantitative field to take up this for a further research. Write it up and make publications. It’s a very interesting topic!

Today, I unequivocally declare that Proton Preve is the SAFEST and MOST AFFORDABLE car in Malaysia! while the Suprima takes the runner-up spot. This is not because the Suprima is less safe than the Preve, but because it is pricier.


HIATUS

I may not be able to frequent this thread all that much from now on. I have to answer a higher calling. I have been re-assigned to a new team that will be dealing with a very important project. I need to retire being a "car safety activist" in Lowyat's Kopitiam. :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin: 
I would appreciate if you guys could keep the STAT COUNTER updated should a new fatality arises:
STAT COUNTER:

- Total Reported Number of Deaths for Each Model (as of 30th May 2017) -

[1] Proton PREVE: 5 deaths (since 2012)

[2] Proton SUPRIMA S: NONE (since 2013)

[3] Proton IRIZ: 4 deaths (since 2014)

[4] Proton PERSONA (2nd Gen): NONE (since 2016)

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