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Ramjade
post Jul 26 2018, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(Sumofwhich @ Jul 26 2018, 05:48 PM)
We will declare the interest rate on a monthly basis and after we declare the rate then you can view your profit in your portfolio.

You still entitled for one day interest on 25 July if you withdraw before 9am on 26 July.

Kindly refer below on the PMMMF dividend calculation.

Formula: Amount x Dividend Rate x Day / 365 = Total Dividend

For the T + 0 withdrawal, means that you will receive the money in your bank account (if Maybank account) on the same day you make a redemption transaction.
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Nice. I didn't even bother about this. All I bother is
1) I sell, I can get back my money
2) how fast I can get back my money
3) stuff which give me the highest interest

If you want to boost it, can try parking money in amanah saham fixed price fund. Min 6%p.a. To buy and sell is a hassle.
Ramjade
post Aug 1 2018, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Aug 1 2018, 10:19 PM)
Yup its basically that interest for month of July in calculation. Do they actually tell us anywhere that the month of July's interest is 3.6865%?
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Yup. Received my payment. I noticed they have been paying on the 1st of every month.
It's available on https://www.eunittrust.com.my/
Scroll down and you can see how much is the rate for the month.

Another place you can check is fund factsheet of the fund.
https://www.eunittrust.com.my/Home/FundDetail/?fcode=001100

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post Aug 14 2018, 06:36 AM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Aug 13 2018, 11:39 PM)
Sifu Ramjade, is there a dedicated thread to discuss about this fund as I'm new to fund and only recently invest in asb.

Wish to know how much the minimum to put this in, and there are board rate shown in tabulation in the link given but none the tenure shows 3.69% (besides the ads banner)? So it works almost like this eGIA? The only con is it take longer times (few days) to get the fund back to saving accounts compared to eGIA, am I right?
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Here you go. Interest changes more or less every month but they have been more than Egia since Egia drop to below 3.5.

Check the fund fact sheet. Yes take slightly longer time. Keep in mind each transaction better be in RM500 (have to read the TnC again). For me doesn't really matter as well my transaction with them memang >RM500.

QUOTE(final @ Aug 13 2018, 11:40 PM)
huh..tis is a totally new thing for me, thx for sharing.

the interest rate is around 3.xx daily?
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No one is going to give you 3.xx/day. Is 3.xx/year.
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post Aug 19 2018, 09:28 AM

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QUOTE(bla2sheep @ Aug 19 2018, 09:07 AM)
Bro, mind to share more about the philip money market fund?
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More info can be found in this thread. I wrote a short summary at this link.
https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...post&p=89986305

Just reply to this thread.

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post Aug 20 2018, 10:52 AM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Aug 19 2018, 11:50 PM)
Bro, based on the tnc, we should be charged RM5 if we withdraw full amount? I understand you don't get charged despites few times done with full withdrawals.

So by right, how much should be left in to avoid the RM5 charges ya?
OT: in Singapore, any place could be like this fund that good to park for temporary fund? Thinking to park while in the midst of learning to invest in SREITs.

I saw you mentioned Citibank MaxiGain is the easier, but min 70k oh, right?
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Never tried. So can't tell you the answer

For SG part, best would be ParkwayLife Reit if you can get it at 2.5x.
Second would be Citibank maxi gain. Need SGD15k to open.
More info
https://theboywhoprocrastinates.blogspot.co...-for-2018.html/
https://heartlandboy.com/citi-maxigain-savings-account/
Third DBS multiplier
Fourth SSB (not sure if we can buy)
Fifth Cimb fast saver.
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post Aug 20 2018, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Aug 20 2018, 11:33 AM)
Thanks bro for all the recommendation.

Will start with Parkway Life as to start SReit then.

eUT quite efficient, got my account opened already.
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At current price now worth going in.

QUOTE(verbatin @ Aug 20 2018, 01:36 PM)
I tried going to their website to open an account

https://www.eunittrust.com.my/

under “getting started” pull down menu, there is registration and eUT opening form for me to choose.

Which one should I choose?

I tried to fill in the information by clicking on Registration form.  I was asked to fill in the postal code and which state I am from. I am from Singapore it appears that I cannot leave this field postal code blank. Hmmm...I am not able to proceed further as the postal code field is mandatory

I tried email them but no gotten a reply.

Can account opening all done online or do I need to go down their office?
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I believe you can fill in SG address with post code.
Just wait la. No one replies so early. Wait few 1-2 days.

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post Aug 22 2018, 07:07 AM

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QUOTE(verbatin @ Aug 21 2018, 11:01 PM)
i am interested in buying Phillips MMF fund. I tried checking at their website. don't seem to be able find which bank they accept if i want to deposit money to buy phillp MMF. went to their FAQ but could not find such information.

i am from Singapore so only holding UOB M'sia and OCBC M'sia. Do they accept internet bank transfer from these 2 bank?

regarding Affin Hwang Select Bond Fund, do they pay out regular dividend? i check the annualise returns (below) and is this returns inclusive of dividend (if any)?

1 Year 0.54
2 Years 3.21
3 Years 4.61
5 Years 5.84
10 Years 6.39

thanks
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As long as the bank is part of FPX network, you can use FPX to pay. But of course because you are not using maybank, then need to wait longer for your money.

If you want to use lots of service in Malaysia, best to open a maybnak account. Both ocbc and UOB are the same. Limited branches and atm. Just close one of them and get maybank account.

Keep in mind that dividend in UT means nothing as is exit left pocket, enter right pocket. By receiving dividends, the value of the fund does not change.
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post Aug 23 2018, 09:33 PM

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QUOTE(fairylord @ Aug 23 2018, 07:03 PM)
I have just placed an amount to philip mmf , is the amount only appears tmr 1030am? Or it Will be listed immediately somewhere in online account?
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Won't appear so fast. Wait a while.
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post Aug 23 2018, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(glauncher @ Aug 23 2018, 10:24 PM)
sorry if it's asked before. I paid on Tue afternoon, so as expected today noon I got the email that the transaction is processed, but I don't see the update in Account Holding (still blank) until now. Is it normal?

New investor just opened account few days ago...
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Yesterday raya la. Cut off time is morning 1030am for Phillip money market fund which means your money must reach them before 1030am. So only process today since you bought in the afternoon.

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post Aug 27 2018, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Sumofwhich @ Aug 27 2018, 12:20 AM)
eGIA must retain for 1 month minimum right? Last time used to have daily interest
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Forget Egia. Old news. Is totally useless nowadays.
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QUOTE(fairylord @ Aug 27 2018, 04:01 PM)
Any other fund good vest in before the end of free commission eUT promo?
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For money market will forever be free. eUT freq does free service charge promo.
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post Aug 28 2018, 04:33 PM

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QUOTE(verbatin @ Aug 28 2018, 01:42 PM)
for Philip mutual money market fund, there isn't a service charge (unless it is unit trust) and I can deposit to MMF anytime?
no need to wait for promo and is there is no min amount like 5k?

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No service charge. Money market fund is unit trust which invest in mainly FDs

No need. Those are for other UT than money market fund. Of course for money market, better to make sure your transaction is min RM500.
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QUOTE(fairylord @ Aug 28 2018, 06:42 PM)
Sifu, is there a special way to do withdrawal? I received the same amount as I put in on 24/8, zero interest oh.
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Bro interest paid once a month on the beginning of the month. Withdraw your maybank account.
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QUOTE(fairylord @ Aug 28 2018, 06:58 PM)
Ah, forgotten you mentioned it before. tongue.gif

So will check the bank for the interest amount on 1/9.

Thanks.
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Interest won't be paid to bank account doh.gif It will be paid into your Phillip money market fund.
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QUOTE(fairylord @ Aug 28 2018, 08:22 PM)
Haha, I see. Not auto, will that interest be reinvested or placed in eUT some wallet?
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Reinvest back into Phillip MMF
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post Sep 9 2018, 11:04 PM

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PMMMF is now at 3.7%p.a!!!!
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post Sep 10 2018, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Sep 10 2018, 11:45 AM)
most of my funds are in red. ranging from -2% to -10%.

I plan to cut loss afew to invest into a business.

is that a wise idea? rather than take up another personal loan to start the business.

my only fund in green is TA global tech
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Know why is the market red. That's why is all about timing. I am still in the green. Right now is a good time to buy if you want. Want to wait for it to drop further to buy also good idea. This is a global event as money is flowing out from countries into US as US is seen as attractive and safe now. Don't understand. Let me give you an eg. FD in Malaysia offering say 2.5% vs 2% in US? Which will you put in? Majority will put in US.

Buying when market is in the green is a very foolish thing to do. Is what majority of retail investors will do. That's why majority of the people loss money when come to investing

If you cannot tahan losses best to look at safe thing like FD, Amanah saham fixed price and EPF. Stocks/unit trust will not be suitable for you.

How sure are your business profit > loan interest? What happen if business rugi? Cut loss and continue paying loan?

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QUOTE(Jitty @ Sep 10 2018, 12:14 PM)
Thanks Ramjade for the advice.

Will think further on starting my business with partners.

You are right, seem like a quite foolish choice to start business with a personal loan.  smile.gif
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Of course sometimes cutting loss is good as you can buy cheaper. That's if it drop more.

QUOTE(coolguy99 @ Sep 10 2018, 12:14 PM)
Money market fund? Is it similar to fund supermart where it is a place to park your money?
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Yes even better.
1) higher returns
2) same day liquidity if you use maybank and withdraw before cut off time compare to FSM where need to wait like for 1 day.
If you use FSM MMF, you withdraw after cut off time, need to wait 2 days for money to come in
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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Sep 10 2018, 12:26 PM)
Hey Ramjade, you dont invest in anything local? REITS, Unit Trusts, Shares?
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Why? Simple. Do you believe in the power of the RM? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

Tell why should I invest in Malaysian REITs giving me mere 5% dividend when amanah saham fixed price is giving me risk free min 6%.

If you don't want to talk about amanah saham, let's compare Malaysian reit vs Singapore reits or Hong Kong reits. I can get higher dividends when I invest in those market, so why should I pick Malaysian REITs which is giving me mere 5% and below?

Why I don't invest unit trust in Malaysia? Why should I invest in Malaysian unit trust and pay service charge of 1.5%-1.75% (depending on which platform you are using) when I can buy unit trust for free any time I want? Besides that, I can get same % of returns overseas or more vs I invest via unit trust from malaysia. So again why should I pay extra charges? Let's not mention selection of fund overseas is more diverse + better quality vs what's offer by FSM MY and eUT MT

So tell me again why should I bother with Malaysian investment when overseas stuff can make my money work harder?

To add icing to the cake, with fintech help, I am able send money overseas via money changer rates. Saving more money vs compare to using local banks.

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QUOTE(SwarmTroll @ Sep 10 2018, 12:50 PM)
I have just started investing not too long ago and have been putting my capital mostly in amanah saham and PMMMF (parking here instead of savings account). Was thinking to diversify and try out other things soon, ETFs, REITS, etc.

I would need a large or sizable capital to start a foreign investment no?
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Not necessarily. Since I invest primarily in SG, my I started with SGD12k only. Allow me to buy 3 reits only. But 3 is more than enough as they are already giving me >6%p.a dividend. You don't need to be HNWI but as you are starting with small amount, cost is very important.

SG UT also same like Malaysia. Starting only cost SGD1k. Subsequent purchase is SGD1000 or SGD500. Only differences is it is SGD and not RM.

With active work + dividend investing, you have more money to pump back in. Eventually your dividends will enable you to buy a counter on it's own. No discount just wait for price to drop. There's no hurry.

My amanah saham is my last resort watchest. Should 2008 happen again, that will be unlocked. For now, I am not touching it.

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