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I have a story.
The intern was a foreigner. When started working, day 1 already screwing up project.
Day after day, the intern screwed up even more. Koliks only then realized the intern used fake resume.
The intern's english language so crappy till communication also a problem to us. The intern can't understand what koliks were talking about.
Even koliks and i used the most basic english telling the intern what to do, the intern still can screwed up the work.
The intern dont really know use a pc, worse than first time user.
koliks also scared give any work to the intern.
The intern everyday go office enjoy air con, no do anything contribute to the company and pandai pandai self approved leave LOL.
In the end, received scolding from boss directly and fired after a week or so.

This post has been edited by rooney723: Apr 17 2017, 10:21 PM

Intern=TS=Srious

i just remember one time one intern kena kantoi for faking sick.

Intern said she's feelling unwell so need to go home after lunch.

Later that evening after office hour, the mother called up the company to ask where's her daughter.

Intern become gf to one of the staff. They probably had sex.

How did he get past the interview session?


Pls dont lie to employers... Having them misinterpret your knowledge is their own fault.... But if you lie about your own knowledge is just menyusahkan everyone

Not yet fire. Intern on watch list.
Very pandai bodek supervisor, when supervisor not in buat perangai, instructions not followed.

Which country that intern from?

i hear its interviewed by kolik with no interviewing exp

intern woh ....... intern pun boleh kena fired means really really bad lor ...

Lol no wonder... The kolik must be very malu... Just another guy trying to help a friend... Maybe thought too highly of them.

This is why we now resort to calling the applicant's university to verify that they were actually enrolled there and successfully graduated. Too many fake degrees etc. these days.

my story was

few years ago, there is 1 freshgrad come to here for few months .. just know how to execute based on step by step guideline. if facing some abnormality ..dunno how to debug already...will just stop there.. guideline wrote 1 to 10 with screenshot.. he/she just know follow step. thats it ..

he/she expecting all abnormality should be recorded and step should be provided

u come here to be engineer..not operator

This post has been edited by fantasy1989: Apr 17 2017, 10:37 PM

My company is executing this strategy. Kena scolded by boss coz problems not in procedure. I told her if like dat my procedure will reach 1000pages. She said then let it be if not how new joiners want to work smoothly.

redundant or regression process is fine

but in RnD ..it's impossible to write all observation and step by step guideline for every project. Because every project architecture is different

the most is ..issue observed, and root cause need to record down only

My process is loans and each companies loans is different as it tobcaters them. How to write a procedure to suit them??? Even if types of loans are well known but not the conditions...

Which is why the current gen workers being breed are textbook type..unable to think, talk and act. And people wonder why their salary so low...

just ask a intern to resign last saturday

already working for 6 month still dont know a shit what he doing, ask him spend more time on work
to familiarize the job instead of going home on time at 5.30 everyday.

you know what he answer me ???
"saya nak jaga gerai burger kat sebelah malam"

WTF if you think your burger stall is more important then you job , your welcome to leave

just ask a intern to resign last saturday

already working for 6 month still dont know a shit what he doing, ask him spend more time on work
to familiarize the job instead of going home on time at 5.30 everyday.

you know what he answer me ???
"saya nak jaga gerai burger kat sebelah malam"

WTF if you think your burger stall is more important then you job , your welcome to leave

6month intern? That is long for period for intership

2 interns at IE
Play Starcraft
U r fired

for 6 months he been working

at 5th month , i ask him a simple question
2 of our company product , how you differential it ??

but he cannot answer..........
now you know why 6 months

Assuming standard intern salary 500, yeah whats wrong he have other job.. the purpose of internship is to learn.. not doing full time job.. some internship esp at mnc dont learn anything still pass and graduate..

foreign uni u also call?

u dum engineer u no need to write out all problems, sure there will be similar cases that you can lump them together and write a general step to trouble shoot such issues without having to write out redundant problems.

ur boss is right, if you don't have a proper guidelines, don't say newbees, even experienced ones will have their own way of doing things because like ur boss said, there's no proper procedure so everything is tru trial & error.

if it's something new, trial & error is normal, but if it's something established, you expect new comers to trial & error & self learn? if problems happened before, write it down, write down how you solved the issue, then when you accumulated sufficient issues, get a junior to compile the writings into categories to reduce the number of pages on your guidelines.

juniors are not freshies, they should already know the job, so they should be the one compiling ur efforts, then u review, and add amendments or if you aren't senior enough write a proposal to your managers so they can incorporate ur proposal and update the guidelines.

if not u will open another thread ranting newbees dunno how to do their job you have to spend this much time to teach them how to troubleshoot.

in the end, u just shooting ur own foot.

hi, i think, even though the intern might not be capable, it's you as the senior/manager that failed.

you should not wait until 5 months baru test him.

i would start testing them after the 1st 20 minutes of briefing on their 1st day, surely you have to give them orientation on their 1st day of work, and it doesn't even need to be too focus on their job scope, you can explain the company's business focus, you can straight away ask some questions to see if they understood anything about the company, this acts as a test gauge to differentiate freshies with potentials & those that you know require tighter monitor & guidance (usually the one that gives you a clueless face). by asking casual question you don't give them pressure to answer but it gives some sort of interaction and they will know what they need to understand in order to know their job.

by 1st week you should be able to tell which intern is good which one aren't.

by 1st month they should already be given tasks to assist the full timers. start with easy task, show them how to do it, then test them on the spot, if they don't get it, teach until they get it.

this is where Malaysia education system fails. everything need spoon feed. that is why, you, as a supervisor only know how to spoon feed the interns instead of being more interactive with them.

i would dare to say you are the one whom failed them. things like this shouldn't be allowed to happen after 5 months. it's like you were sleeping on your task on training the interns.

you should seriously review yourself man, not just for the sake of ur company or the intern, but urself, coz we assume u gonna have a family, have ur own kids, if you teach ur kids like u teach ur interns, they gonna grow up like a rock just like ur inters.

intern used fake resume.

hr dept fail.

and wot was the reason they ended up playing starcraft?

because they weren't given any specific task right?

they r fired.

and u failed.

u should at least call them into ur office and give them a good scolding and explain to them why they should try to learn on their job instead of playing starcraft, and ask them why they were playing starcraft. if they say nothing to do, make sure they are given tasks to do, if the senior u assigned to handle them ignores them, call the senior in, give him a good scolding.

firing them on the spot is just irresponsible.

i know u probably think they are just interns, not really ur problem, u aren't paid to babysit them. but u never know who they know or what they know. firing someone just because they were playing games, without any warnings, is just as unprofessional as those interns playing games on job.

pipul like u, think too highly of urself.

intern asked shop to fake invoice price and share profit

found out and got fired

everyone started as a noob, including you. you just forgotten how noob u were when you started becoz that was long time ago. u probably though u knew everything when you just started and wonder why freshgrads nowadays sucks so bad.

it's the same reason why ur dad think ur soft & incompetent compared to folks back in his days.

u just missed out a really smart intern.

i would call him in and tell them hey you were smart, but u got caught. but ur good, why not work for us, as long as u don't seek personal benefits out of the company & meet ur targets, why not? since i already know u cheated, i'm watching u. if ur good, we will reward u, if u still continue, ur ending will be very bad.

I once took an intern under me. Took him to classes to assist PnP as well as helped me with some admin jobs, but he went flirt with the female students pulak. Sometimes brought along for fieldwork but really cannot tahan beh and think independently. Few months taught to use PowerPoint and Excel also cannot cope simple functions. Almost had the urge to ask him to resign but I remembered I was like that as well long time ago.

kesian - u think all companies are the same? which is a pity no wonder u still earning peanut salary

There is a fine line between making an honest mistake and making a mistake which they knew upfront of the consequence of breaching a code of conduct
Fire them all
Period

we playing them full salary rm1800 permonth , so i get to demand and treat them as a probation worker

i dont need you to tell me how to do my work , and who say i only test them after 5 months ????
is all your assumption dude.

last time my company HR they really called my professor at UK and interview her ..lol

advocado

dude stop telling other forumer how to do their job, your not their boss for god sake

atleast try to fix lol ..instead of click click few button then straight turn the face to you and "question" you why cannot jalan 1?

I started working a year ago with another freshie, I'm also fresh grad

When I'm not sure i will go ask and discuss but the other guy, when he got nothing to do or don't understand he just go facbook and wait

I go tell him off quietly y u on Facebook then he sohai go say I'm not his boss blah blah

He got sacked after 3 months and i had to pick up his work

For some reason​ he never want to discuss problem encounterd with our supervisor think highly of himself argue all the time


Sometimes ppl with great cert but attitude really shit

Ayam internship last time eight month.

even if it's programming, the codes & language may not be the same, but the idea is similar. there should be a general guideline, then a detailed guideline based on the system. don't tell me if i teach you how to eat using a tea spoon, you won't know how to eat with a soup spoon because they are different?

and there is a reason why companies pushing for gold standards, so their system can be easily migrated or used for expansion.

no wonder u still kuli.

if they surfed illegal website like porn, no excuse. but gaming, everyone does it.

must have a reason. maybe they weren't given any tasks to do? won't you surf facebook or post in /k too?

then u have writing problem since you wrote you found out they can't differentiate company products after 5 MONTHS.

and u really full of urself.

ur superior probably vomit blood when reading ur reports.

26 years old Intern, Segi Grad.
First impression was she was pretty smart and intelligent, had lots of certs and CGPA was pretty decent.
But the red flag was that she left several courses unfinished and switched over to another.
Head of HR decided to hire her anyway.
I left by the time she came in, but I heard from my ex colleagues that her true colors came out after she became an intern.
Wearing spaghetti straps (covered with cardigan) to a formal dress code office, using the patients' room to sleep, changing her top in front of everyone.
One day, it seems she had enough and decided to throw in her resignation letter and never turned up.
The head had to call her back in to office for her to show her face.
Eventually they decided they didn't want her too, so they fired her.

coz ur a product of a failed education system.

and u expect others to be different.

if i were you, i would not wait until 5 months. by 3rd month you should be able to tell who can make it and who can't, who has the heart to work & learn & who don't. you don't keep those you know are hopeless for another 3 months before you fire them, or worse continue keeping them.

i can say you don't really have the power to make the call.

and you don't really care since it's not ur money & company.

i mean what is the point of keeping useless staffs for more than 3 months? unless they have special cable or connection that may be worth the trouble.

If they got no task to do they should ask for more work
It shows that they are proactive

at the beginning, it's better to ask straight away when facing trouble instead of sitting there starring at the monitor trying to figure out what went wrong for a simple problem.

if after few times they still do that then you can complain and try to teach them how to think.

just like small kid, if he don't know something, he will straight ask why right? after few times, he would start to get a grip on it.

you were once a noob urself, remember that.

Hospital?

Nope. Pharma firm.

ur discrediting them that they may have requested tasks but maybe ignored by their lead and with no working experience & social experience they were afraid to approach their manager as it would bring trouble to their lead which in turn set trouble among themselves?

if u are the manager, you should keep at least a weekly update from the lead and from the interns, not just sit there and assume they are alright like Tom Cruise in Top Gun.

if no tasks were given to interns u should be able to tell by shooting few simple questions, then you call the lead in and ask him to explain why the interns aren't improving.

i can tell you most leads aren't interested in training interns because they aren't part of the fulltime team and they know they will most likely leave after finishing their internship and they know in such short time it's hard to train them to be actually helpful, so they are deadweight, might as well let them rot and focus on own work.

if the lead is Indian Expat, expect even worse.

let's see

fire within hours on first day

come work lembik lembik then eat ular. it just 2 hour before lunch. then after lunch come in late 1 hour. i terus fire him.

got several fired as same reason as TS story,

got few working lembik lembik then suka suka grandma die grandpa die,auntie die, sick la, fake mc, printing fake mc, print fake doctor letter, freaking lot excuse. fired within 1 months

got few caught at outside while lepak somewhere while i travel around doing work.

got 1 guy even fake doctor stamp&signature letter, which the doctor is my fren uncle clinic.

mc leave 2 days between 1st week, the doc tell me that my worker fake sick when i go take meds

come first few days then missing

come first day then steal stuff then go missing

It s about the sense of responsibility, attitude and maturity level... Its common for 21 yrs old to give fk care knowingly they themself as an intern. Literally a 21 yr old and fresh junior grad have same intellect level to carry out job, difference is the factors above. Heck even a 26 27 yr old hop to a new job know zero, he will assume more responsibility and be more serious than an intern in learning.

thanks for being a grammar nazi , so winning a internet argument make you feel superior ???


you drop so low by start calling people names ????
maybe your so high and mighty with power to do what you want

just let me remind you , karma a B!TCH
what goes around comes around, watch for it dude

and you didn't mention, intern is a must for some to complete their degree, they might not be interested to work as an employee, or interested in the field they study at all. which explains why they ular & don't have any responsibilities.

but you, as their guide, should figure out who is really interested in learning & working, and who doesn't. then don't spend so much time on those that clearly aren't interested. but you should try to get them interested 1st. if you already assume, u just let them rot, ur not doing any good either.

i called u a product of a failed education system, how can that be insulting? we all are. just whether we let the failed education shape our mind or not makes the difference.

admit it, our education is a failed system.

that is why you are complaining about intern & fresh grad qualities. have you ever reflected upon urself about it? ur not a kid, take up some responsibility for the education that has gotten from bad during ur times to rotten now. put u in their shoes, would you have acted in the same way under the education system they were brought up with?

i've been criticized way more than you just on the internet alone. if i find it reasonable, i accept it no big deal. also when people criticize u, whether or not they are right or wrong, it also gives information on why they do so, maybe because you couldn't express urself clearly on ur typings that people misunderstood what you're trying to say??? for example.

if u really wanted to clarify that you did not only review them after 5 months, just clarify, no need to point at me and question DID I SAY THAT. clearly you did not make urself clear enough.

and i apologize for the ur superior will vomit blood when they see ur report. that's just based on how muddy ur narration about ur experience was. i'm sayin ur superior probably have lots of question when they read ur report if you typed ur report the same way you tried to tell us ur scenarios.

i know u r successful in ur career and take pride in what you do, but sometimes, sit back and think if you've done absolutely everything correct, or was there something you could have done better?

clearly, letting interns stay for more than 6 months knowing they aren't learning anything, is unacceptable. unless they have special connection that may benefit the company.

what if someone can do work and play games on occasion?

if solitaire or those puzzle games can la..starcraft and do work? Starcraft alone fill up ur screen d

Lol why everyone so serious during internship?
During my internship my supervisor doesn't even care if i do things wrongly because he said i'm still learning and that's the purpose of internship. To learn not to work

Those who are thinking that intern should know everything have the same mentality as chinaman/haji bakhil business atas row kedai

Sekian.

Especially foreign universities.

His burger stall earning him more than your own job

Must be gay company

Got intern took "ice" & used kompeni car mcm father own & curi kompeni mani...stret away bos scold and fired..lol..

That explains my intern now..not much of work to do.
But now getting better la, at least I handle the company facebook, got smth to do.

No ask which segi?main campus? Penang? KL? Subang Jaya?

cheapo labour also fired

intern cost prolly Rm300-500/month oni

if i am the permanent staff i will worry about that company futures.

There are company even got console, gym and all kind of facilities yet those company still earning money. Its like our government, when it came to corruption, it catch small fish but never really solve root of problem.

why not u request from ur line manager to get more task other than facebook?

also letting intern handle fb is like letting ur youngest sibling represent the whole family. abit risky from company image POV.

i went one company intern..total i get 1k plus (include half commission) hehe

my intern more powerful
immediately after punch in and open laptop, terus watch Youtube
after I back from pantry he still watch Youtube
free time? play Dota. play fckg Dota during office hour! and their seat even @ the entrance and staff walking around was like "wtf?"

probably he/she was thinking too literally... like "how can you differential 2 products, it's not a differential equation..."

ini intern memang ball of steel

Think back of it I don't blame seniors for not putting interns at 100% effort. They are bound to leave, the scope of responsibilities has a limit as well, and it's more of a risk to waste effort guiding important tasks for interns rather than simple ones. Even myself can't trust a lazy technician, what's not an intern? That said I've intern two places before, one was at accenture. Both places there's limitations in the extent of the tasks, and I admit I had my fair share watching movies secretly also. But that didn't mean I am a lazy ass, I performed well but just that my maturity level was to play at the age of 21. Just admit it only 10% of that age don't take things seriously. Like my peers who were the same, came out successful in career also.

my intern 1 month rm1k but do nothing one.

there's always some non-senior or junior that can act as guide.

unless the company biz really good or really short of staff, then they should not accept any interns.

lol~my place use interns as macai only.regardless whatever course they take.one time got one engineering student come but buat kerja jaga bilik fail.

I go home at 530 everyday. What's the problem as long as work finish?

good or bad they still hire
dont believe?
my company group is well known listing
my division is generate commission (my department everyone is boss)
my department is front line..
while rest of the department is support my department
so this division net profit loss..cost too high yet still hire 6 interns come to rescue for 4 month
their qualify masuk to join intern because they represent they uni win overall for trade

x rak interbiu isit

if anything, company is to be blamed for hiring the person

when company do bad, you need more salesman to up the revenue.

this is normal.

you retrench those supporting cast like technical support & engineering.

Sales & HR are the last ones to go. Usually the boss go before HR leaves.

STRONGLY ARGREE

paying them peanuts, expect them to stay back OT.

and he himself dun bother keep checking on their progress.

after 6 months baru complain.

if use speaker or loud volume baru syiok.

The head and manager are away from the office a majority of the time. Particularly around the month she joined, because they were having regional meetings. So no one with power could tell her off. My colleagues who are pretty senior actually dragged her to a private conversation and told her not to do it but she didn't heed the advice.

I know which campus, Subang Jaya. Very pity she turned out to have a rotten attitude. Pretty face, quite voluptuous. Has the brains too, but turned out to be such a problem.

he knows his priority obviously, 6 month and part time after work, it tells u that his current job hv no future

whats wrong of going home on time? fix ur mindset 1st

for me, i choose bosses over job, ofc i would open a hot dog stall burger if i get u as my boss/senior

I actually did sometimes in the past but always received no as answer so I assume they just dont wanna involve amateur n have no interest training me.
The one who will give me task is the senior designer here. She sometimes complain her work is a lot but never ask help from me.

I actually am sad to have this work experience..feels unappreciated and so low
like I am so stupid she just doesnt wanna share work load with me..

Not risky, cause we can only publish draft, any post authorization or message received will be handled directly by boss..

normal? fyi..my department if public want join this department to earn commision no basic salary..they need take 2 paper to get license..
revenue is depend overall market volume..
our division dont have technical & engineering..
they cut other department staff end up suffer like hell..they cant coupe..
cost is from the big fat salary top management wont help the company and wont leave..
certain department cannot simply sack due to their license as well..
sooo..sack staff also got problem...want add more salesman need time and got problem as well when those losses no one pay..
u go guess which industry is tht..

dear advocado,

I came to this thread to read about people and their experience with horrible interns. And not about you telling people what they should do with interns, or whether we are from a failed education system etc.

If you have no stories to share, please step away and let the rest of us enjoy the stories shared here.

thanks

well said.

you can always choose not to read.

thx ur welcome.

yea but you dont see those workers go there for 9hours right.

ignore him lo...what thread he masuk sure like master know it all will tell u about problem siap dengan solution..
if u dont like him kasi block him lo..
not the 1st day in kopitiam

damn man u need to work on your interviewing skills. lol

dayum.

i wanna hire her.