All IT position is outsourced to iPerintis.

Thank you very much Bro.

i attended chit chat last 2 weeks...dunno yet when they will call for SI..

hye..

after two years..

when u stay inside long enough, u know la. i dont know about other companies, i guess all of them sama aja.is not what u know, its who u know.

petronas with PPerformanceAppraisal. every year 10% number of staff in every department must be FORCE RANKED to M3. two years consecutively u got M3, got two options, must blah or improve in 6 months.

its not that consequence of getting M3 bothers you, its how they force rank those 10%.

because of that, the environment is not that comfortable at all (i dont say all will feel this way). Your fren may not trust you. Frens may not want to teach you too much. Ass kissers everywhere. Blaming culture. Too many non core job related initiatives KPIs that burden you. A huge urge to be visible to top management no matter in what way.

i guess, there are certain people born and can adapt and survive in this type of environment. just think at once, are you this type? if not, contract staff only la. no need to be permanent. same also, insecure just like contract work maaa. benefits alaa, like you really use them, hehe.

hehehehe. straight from bottom of my heart.

i have interview at petronas on wednesday for service desk executive... anyone can help me?

Heard exactly the same story from 2 of my frens which currently in PGB and PCSB....
i got offers from Petronas last month but i decline..partly bcoz of the forced ranking environment which make me uncomfortable....
Somehow i am not convince my performance will be fairly evaluated/appreciated by the mgmt or colleagues.....
But the main reason i decline bcoz the employment term & benefit are not that attractive anymore compared to last time....
even though the salary jump is >30%, it is still not good enuf to make me resign and take the challenge (risk)....

can u share with me about the interview?

Basically consist of normal interview, case study and skill set or personal quality evaluation based on your experience...
no role playing game, math test, english test whatsoever considering im not fresh grad (> 5 years experience)...

I know of a couple of friends who have left the company because of this M3 shenanigans. The M3 is not an issue, it's the force ranking as one of the posters said. There are several levels of ranking and the systems needs to be refined. After each level, you will be forced ranked and sometimes there is no one defending you (your supervisors defended you at the lower levels) Once it's gone to the upper levels, there is only the PPA form that defends you ....

Thankfully I am out of that system .....

i'm a fresh graduate....

Hi there,

I would appreciate if someone can explain to me if my SI was NOT successful but the people in the department still wanted me to work with them.

Is there still a chance of getting the job?

Thanks

I have secured a position as an audit exec for Petroleum Management Unit (PMU) under PSC Audit, . I am currently working with PNB (Permodalan Nasional Berhad) so should I leave for Petronas? I was before that with Public Bank Berhad (as my 1st job) in internal auditing. i have been working for more than 4 years.. any comment?

Aaahhhh PSC Audit, the department that makes all Operators (Exxon/Shell/Talisman etc etc) tremble.

What grade did they give you? E2 or E1?

azraeil:

not sure coz on the offer letter, it only says:

Tawaran Jawatan: Eksekutif (Audit)
Kod Jawatan: 01090166

Gaji permulaan: not even 5k

Any ideas?

What about the benefits working with Petronas? I also heard that the new management is considering to stop the force rank policy.. is this true?

Anyway, I'm more concern on whether I should leave PNB though

This post has been edited by epiyana: Jun 22 2011, 10:07 PM

To all the senior who ever attended Petronas Structured Interview, may u all share what topics and situation of CASE STUDY and ROLE PLAY given to u???

I have gone through and passede telephone chi-chat session followed by online ability test...

And now i have confirmed with Petronas HR personnel that they will arrange an interview with me soon, and i want to get this job very much!!! ...

I applied for engineering executive E1 position. i only hav abt 2 years of experience but without any O&G experience.

so may all the senior out there pls share ur experience with me


a) CASE STUDY TOPICS

b) ROLE PLAY SITUATION


THX FOR UR INFO AND YOUR ASSISTANT WILL BE APPRECIATED



This post has been edited by gsc12345: Jul 1 2011, 01:19 PM

whaffark this newbie, come register and necro like 20 petronas threads. i look at j&c forum suddenly thought since when is this the petronas forum?

Am I doing smthing wrong ? Pls tel me
I jz try get some help,no bad intention at all.
Pls guide me n gv a chance to me

The other day they gave me a topic on customers' complaint but please bare in mind that i am an experienced staff from banking background so the topic could be different.

I they really consider you as an experienced staff then there should not be any Role Play. RP is only meant for fresh grads.

So prepare more for the presentation of case study and also make sure that u more or less remember the answers that u have given for your online ability test because they have a session just to verify that.

Anyhow I have rejected their offer.. salary not so competitive but the main reason is - the benefits suck and only good for fresh grads or maybe experienced staff who have never enjoyed the REAL benefits before.

PLUS of course due to a MUCH better offer from the future owner of Warisan Merdeka Tower

ANYWAY GOOD LUCK!!

Same case like me...i ditch their offer...they have cut off all the nice benefit for new comer....
hence the salary offered i have to normalise to minus RM700.

Petronas benefits vs (inside bracket my current company):
- no housing loan or car loan...(current company, housing loan interest subsidy - minus BLR 4% for up to RM450k loan, car loan-RM65k free interest loan)
- 15 days annual leave & 1 day paternity..(after confirmation 22 days AL, 3 days paternity)
- medical benefits: Outpatient RM 4k annually plus dependants, hospitalisation/major medical RM75k staff & RM20k each dependants (RM20k outpatient plus dependants, hospitalisation/major medical RM50k staff & RM50k each dependants)
- dental RM400 annually, no optical (dental RM1,400 each dependant, optical RM400 each dependant)
- unclear policy on reimbursable professional membership and study scholarship/assistance (memberships fees reimbursable up to 2 professional bodies annually, full scholarship for ACCA, ICAEW. partial scholarship for CIA, ESH/DOSH professional qualifications. max bonding period 3 years depends on amount of scholarship).

But petronas still have plus points in my case such as:
maternity 4k normal, 6k scissor......(none currently)
EPF employer contribution 19% (my company 16%)

the above based on what HRM personnel informed to me via e-mail...coz apparently in my case they do not mail the employee term & benefits with the offer letter..After due consideration, i was of the opinion that the offer (within 35% increment) still does not able to compensate other benefits which ill lose if i leave current company...PLUS ive received several other offer from non-MNC company who willing to offered 35% increment as well but the benefits much more worse....

Wow, I didn't know that the benefits have been cut that bad ... I guess they increased the salary and then they cut the benefits. Bear in mind that previously the salary for Petronas was not as competitive as other O&G companies. A lot of staff complained about the salary and in most cases they did not or could not see the "other" benefits.

After 1000 skilled personnel in Geoscience and Petroleum Engineering left (me included) left the company (Do you wonder why our current oil production is now 450K barrels per day instead of the targetted 520K barrels per day?), Petronas decided to implement a new remuneration scheme BUT I guessed they had to cut some other benefots somewhere ...

Epiyana, it's a tough call on whether to stay or go (though you have made your decision). What PSC Audit does is basically they will Audit all the expenses that the Oil Operators (Exxon/Shell/Talisman/Newfield etc etc) makes to PETRONAS. These expenses falls under the Cost Oil Recovery Mechanism so MOST of the time, this are the expenses that will go to the operators and will not fall under the PITA, PSC Share etc etc, so the Audit guys are the most feared people by the Operators. They go to the Operator's offices and basically either endorsed or not endorsed the Cost Oil Recovery accounts.

In some cases, PMU has used this processes to squeeze the operators to implement Malaysianisation. Imagine that 2 million USD cost for one American/British expats that are rejected outright by Audit, and that is for one expat.

Whenever the Operators hire an expat, they require approval from several divisions in PMU and the most persuasive criteria is whether they can claim Cost Oil or not. If they cannot claim the cost oil, they most likely will not hire the person.

That's one part of the PSC Audit scope of work.

Anyway, maybe when I'm 50, I'll return to Petronas and "contribute" to the nation. I loved working in Petronas.

yesterday i got sms from jobstreet petronas lubricant want to view my resume...then i agree...

today HR people call me regarding the position offered (in accounting)...but he just need to forward to hiring manager before any SI...just wish i got it soon..h ...quite proud they are interested on me actually..

my question...HOW IS PETRONAS TODAY? heard a lot of thing +ve & -ve, but it is PETRONAS...a dream GLC co to join actually..is it??

This post has been edited by faris_sn: Jul 7 2011, 11:32 AM