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post Apr 14 2017, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(angelaers @ Apr 14 2017, 04:00 PM)
i like bright colors, so if it is available when i get my copy of arms, i am getting this
and then i am swapping the left/right with my neon set hehehehehe

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post Apr 25 2017, 02:24 PM

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actually how much is an amiibo usually in malaysia? is it selling at a fixed price, or the price increases over time (due to rarity?). Is it possible to buy amiibos that were released in the past?
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post Apr 25 2017, 02:25 PM

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QUOTE(king_kong @ Apr 25 2017, 12:16 PM)
hi, does anyone have issues with the left joycon, any fix recommendations besides sending it back to SG for warranty?
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i just realized that problem yesterday (i don't usually sit in front of tv to play most of the time, the most i did was in front of my workstation monitor)
am quite tempted to try this https://www.cnet.com/news/nintendo-switch-j...vity-issue-fix/
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post Apr 26 2017, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Apr 25 2017, 03:56 PM)
Hoard a bunch of amiibos, some could go as cheap as 30 or even lower. Standard price is like rm60 or slightly above. And yes some amiibos are rare and it could go up to RM80 or higher.
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Where do you get urs?
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post May 2 2017, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(kitg90 @ Apr 30 2017, 08:21 PM)
Do you guys get the scratches when you dock?
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not on mine
some got their switch scratched because the dock is slightly bent tho
to be safe put on a layer of protector to the screen
especially if u bring the dock everywhere

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post May 2 2017, 10:28 PM

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Just realized the physical edition of puyo puyo tetris is much more expensive than the eshop us version (rm189 Vs 30dollars), lol im getting electronic copy then
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post May 2 2017, 10:50 PM

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QUOTE(Superman7 @ May 2 2017, 10:31 PM)
Good hint. Where did you get the physical copy from?
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Was thinking of getting it from impulse because I still have unused coupons lol
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post May 2 2017, 11:23 PM

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QUOTE(Superman7 @ May 2 2017, 10:59 PM)
Unfortunately the coupon can only be used once per item. Means you'll have to spend on 10 items in 3 months to fully benefit from the 100 voucher. I only used 2 so far.
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Me too... And sadly arms is releasing 3 days after my coupon expires lol
Was thinking to get the banana joy con and the game together
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post May 5 2017, 05:30 PM

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QUOTE(fookiat @ May 5 2017, 04:04 PM)
there's only option up to 4 players in the game menu
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4 players on the same switch u mean?
because I think he is asking if it is possible to share the game (1 cartridge) with multiple NS's in local network multiplayer
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post May 17 2017, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(Chocobos @ May 17 2017, 09:18 AM)
Looks like a normal exercise routine to me haha!
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lol im gonna play arms like that when it comes out ....
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post Jun 5 2017, 10:42 AM

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Played briefly, still dun understand why Nintendo wouldn't publish which port I should open for each game ): (also the DMZ oso wouldn't work for some reason, and not forgetting setting DMZ will limit my network to only have one switch connected for online play). In the end played by tethering internet connection from my mobile phone, quite decent (:
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post Jun 7 2017, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jun 7 2017, 05:28 PM)
Also the hopes of Pokemon Stars coming to the Switch is still there. Just because they deny Ultra isn't coming doesn't mean Stars won't make it either. Another remake would be fine as well. Looks like they are milking a lot lately on the Pokemon franchise anyway, might as well milk it more.

Just waiting if Nintendo is planning for a successor for the 3ds or just stick with the Switch. If no successor for sure the mainline Pokemon game will come at some point.
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i suppose i will believe it when i see it heh
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post Jun 9 2017, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 9 2017, 02:50 AM)
for real.

Have you seen Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild running in 4K? The graphics and texture assets are just up-ressed from the stock graphics, and it looks magnificent in 4K. I've tested it on the emulator (CEMU), but the ever changing nature of emulator and requirement to download updated versions of the emulator, needs to retweak. But the fact is, assets already present inside the game is beautiful enough for the game to run by increasing the resolution. The same principle with 3DS and its Citra emulator, the only thing holding it back is the pathetic hardware inside the 3DS itself. Move those assets to Switch and you have the same effect as you've seen there. Games these days running on emulators are developed with graphics engine with in-game quality toggles already built-in, all you need is to enable them on different hardware.

That's the technical side of it, but judging from the reaction of Nintendo fans (here and elsewhere), they'll even take the game at 240p as it is, and even then, running it rendered at 240p, and blowing it up to 720 screen on the switch, would already show huge improvement over the shitty screen of the 3DS.
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u r talking as if porting software that runs on one hardware to another is a button click away
it would be nice if that's so easy
often times it involves a lot of testing, and vomiting out a lot of platform specific code (every hardware + os combo has different way to produce graphics, play sounds, handles input and stuff, also not forgetting from DS -> switch, there is a screen fewer on switch)
considering they are selling you for a profit (so that they can pay the team properly at least), i suppose they have a lot of work to do to ensure the game is not only playable, but gives u good experience while playing it too (you wouldn't want a buggy game would you?)
instead of pet-project kinda nature of emulator development (i.e. the emulator devs typically won't die of hunger because they don't get paid to do their stuff, also speaking as a user of emulator, have you donated for their work?)

yea, i am a bit disappointed for not seeing a port of pokemon on switch (whichever version)
but that's okay, i suppose sooner or later we shall see one *finger crossed*
(argh, gimme back me 8 mins)


UPDATE:
yes, supporting mainstream game development engine like unity and unreal is there for switch, but being mainstream doesn't mean everyone uses it
and also doesn't mean you "write once and it runs on everything" kinda thing
often times there would be some work to do to optimize performance on each platform (hardware + OS combo)

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post Jun 9 2017, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 9 2017, 12:22 PM)
You dont understand, this isn't PORTING, this is up-resolution. You use the same game asset and running it at higher resolution. No changes or extra work need to be done on the original game assets. Sure, you can troubleshoot and debug to make sure everything works, but as exemplified by Capcom with its MHXX "port" (if you wanna call that a port), that process doesn't take long. In MHXX's case, they're doing extra work on the game assets (improving geometry, adding texture details, etc), but the process I described is up-resolution. It's literally running the same game at higher resolution. That's what the image I linked meant, it's thesame game, but in the case of 3DS, the resulting image is downgraded to fit into the poor 3DS 240p screen.

This isn't about asking for a new Pokemon (not a remake, refresh, or a port of the current shitty 240p ones), this is about using the SAME game and uprezzing it. That Citra emulator image is proof, the emulator is not doing anything other than running the game at a higher resolution, using THE SAME ASSETS. Optimizing the game to run on the Switch? The game literally runs on 240p on the 3DS, and how many times more powerful is the Switch compared to the paltry 3DS? Even running that same same at 480p would've resulted in improvement already, good enough to put it on eShop for sale. TRY that Citra emulator, to get what I mean. I've tested LoZ BOTW WiiU running on emulator on my gaming PC, all I did was turn a few toggles in to run the game at 4K, using THE SAME GAME ASSETS, and the results are stunning. There are trickeries here, there are no SPECIAL VERSIONS of the game that has higher texture or better geometric details, it's the SAME GAME running at higher resolution.

You're sacrificing your eyeballs for the sake of portability, in this case, being able to play Pokemon portably but having to suffer through 240p 3DS image quality, when the game can scale up further to better resolution, USING THE SAME GAME ASSETS. Now, with the Switch, you have the option of running portably at a much more palatable 720p, is that bad? I have the original Nvidia Shield Portable, and running emulators on those is a dream, and that's running on a less capable hardware than the Switch.

This is also to alleviate the concern about games being separated by two platforms instead of one (3DS ONLY instead of both 3DS and Switch). Like I mentioned earlier, people have sold their 3DSes to fund for their Switech, also under the pretext that Nintendo had said to them that they're "unifying mobile and home platforms into a single platform". That's what the Switch promise is.......that's what they're banking on when Nintendo claimed that. See what happens now? Most early adopters are the hardest of hardcore Nintendo fans, and see how Nintendo treated them? I think even a mention of the games "coming soon" to Switch would've alleviate that feeling of betrayal that these Switch players felt about that Pokémon announcement.
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I don't see why this is not a port
while both are running on ARM CPU, but the system software / OS running on top of both platforms are different
so they have different api calls to play sound, different api to render graphics, different api to handle controls
(for instance, just because ur pc is capable of running windows and linux, it doesnt mean all the games u play under windows would automagically work under linux, duh~)
(the marketing speech "write once, run everywhere" is a joke to a lot of programmers if you ask me)
(also i would be really sad if u r my project manager)

I am not familiar with DS's emulator, but usually an emulator emulates one specific platform (and possibly adding some enhancement)
if you must insist it is not much of an effort to make 3DS game run on switch (OK, if you don't think this is a port)
I suppose the better analogy is play 3DS games on a Wii U emulator (CEMU?) (or even a switch emulator, if it exists already)
Or run a Wii U game in a Wii Emulator (Dolphin)
(both wii and wii u are kinda similar, i think, Wii U is just offering better resolution mar /s )

having graphics asset is important, but it is not the only component in making a game work
as of Capcom's MHXX game, I suppose they put in effort in making sure their engine handles platform abstraction properly so porting is less an effort (not a hardcore gamer, not sure what game engine it is built with)

also to be fair, nintendo didn't really promise to bring pokemon to switch this soon prior to the direct
(yes, i hope for one, but im fine if they need more time)

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post Jun 9 2017, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(stringfellow @ Jun 9 2017, 03:55 PM)
Take it as "virtual console" then. Or "emulation". The Switch is bursting at the seam with so much processing power, you seriously think emulating a 240p 3DS games is difficult?
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Im sure the emulation community would welcome your expertise
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post Jun 16 2017, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(Captain_Luigi @ Jun 16 2017, 04:46 PM)
I am getting left joycon issue and i have not noticed it. Guess i have to buy Pro controller. Is it worth to buy?
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lol, how do u know you have issue when you don't notice it?
sure, buy one if you want to (:
I am buying an extra pair of joy con for arms lol

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post Jun 16 2017, 06:45 PM

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QUOTE(Rei7 @ Jun 16 2017, 06:14 PM)
Most nintendo games yeah pre-ordered. I really like the game during test punch, definitely must have. Although I think Splatoon 2 is gonna be better and etc, but this game deserve a purchase. Not a bad new IP by Nintendo.
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too lazy to drive over to impulse to pre-order with my disc voucher (cos in total i gotta drive there twice, not worth the rm 10 lol)
but apparently yellow joycon is not coming together ):
i want those banana joycon ler
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post Jun 16 2017, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Jun 16 2017, 06:50 PM)
yeah.. me too. Lazy to drive there just for the RM10 voucher.
Maybe I'll just buy from the eStore. Lazy switching the game cards.
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i like physical stuff, so gonna buy the physical copy lol
looks like if i am going to buy this weekend i would have to make another trip to get the joycon
but nvm, my sister doesnt look like interested to play with me for now (with the motion control)
we shall play with the joycon for now i suppose
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post Jun 16 2017, 07:27 PM

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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Jun 16 2017, 07:21 PM)
what's so special about the yellow joycon? just the colour?
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yea, but i like bright colors, so...
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post Jun 19 2017, 04:02 PM

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QUOTE(Superman7 @ Jun 16 2017, 07:56 PM)
and you need 2nd joycons for ARMS wrestling laugh.gif
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exactly (:
played a bit with it, while the single player mode is fun
the online multiplayer party mode is more exciting
even though i suck in it lol

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