i bring in 20 unit samsung 21700 10A 4800MAH batt, which is true rating on capacity and A output.

For single 21700 regulated MOD:
is good/perfect for below 40W/10a : 4400mah
Below 40W/5a : 4700mah
15A will be slight overheat n MAH will drop, also damage battery in long term.


Body color RAW.
Prices PM me (i don't want to ruin others business here).

This post has been edited by SonnyCooL: Feb 10 2018, 03:32 PM

I think I know which dude but his shop only lists up to vtc 6 atm.

With regards to the TC...I wanted to know the general consensus on vaping 316L - what temp is acceptable and if this mod would kick me out of tc if my coil is wrong.

Maybe an example would better serve to explain my situation. Lol.

I'm on an SMM tank, using one of the stock coils, which I've ready is stainless steel. Tried TC on my vtc mini but got kicked out of tc after a few puffs. Same tank, on the skystar. I'm not getting kicked out of TC, but taking a puff more than 4s on 320f and 47w gives me an almost burnt vape. Curious if this is supposed to happen. I haven't tried dry burning it yet since my dominant arm is in a cast.

Also, what temps are you running for your build?

Final question (for now) - where'd you get the reload? From my understand they don't do it anymore right? Which means I'm left with clones...FT? Mixed reviews on there

I think the 30q is even harder to find bro besides, I read the the vtc6 can only do 15a. 30 under certain conditions. I work on a worst-case-scenario so am more inclined towards the vtc5 (or possibly 6s) myself. Also, read a comparison between the 25r and vtc 5...25r did better. By a marginal amount only lah.

to be honest 30A constant ? that is nearly impossible ..... most u get is spike for 1 second n it reach 80C d
which version 25R u get (green or Blue) ? i still using a lot blue 25r which is pretty impress (even my bicycle i use 25R)

Lol. Yeah, not likely to do 30A constant. Still, it's peace of mind for me.

Getting the green one. Will see if it's legit or not. Have done some research on it. Hopefully it's not too outdated

i don't worry on that, i still have a lot 25R green not breaking it yet




My blue 25R

got a bunch of 30q for my friend and vtc5a for myself from vapekulture @ jaya shopping centre recently since illumn has been on backorder & nkon has been out for awhile, as for authenticity scott hasn't given me a reason to mistrust him so far so I didn't mind paying 40/45myr each for the 30q/vtc5a respectively even though there are others selling cheaper

This post has been edited by olivur: Feb 10 2018, 10:03 PM


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i don't buy out side cause i asked one seller (forget who) where he source his VTC5a, he reply, he got man inside SONY MALAYSIA, so he get sources authentic VTC, i was like WTF ? malaysia don't even have single unit VTC import, what we import is READY made product.

This post has been edited by SonnyCooL: Feb 10 2018, 10:05 PM

he prolly meant one of nedim's lines, which is basically how every vape item gets in the country lol

hahahah i mistype, he said he got man inside SONY Malaysia, so he can sources n his product is confirm authentic ....

lmfao gila kencang line dia

DUDE. That's a LOT! Lol. Enough for a few lifetime.

Shame you don't sell them anymore.

Damn. That's quite a price. To be expected for a b&m though. Well worth it for the peace of mind though.

Problem with a lot of these resellers is they don't give a damn about safety and such. As long as they can make a sale, it's good enough. I worry for the vaping scene here... Incompetent sellers + ignorant vapers... We're lucky the only thing slapped on us so far is the issue with nicotine in our juices.

yeah I'd usually get my stash from nkon but I guess I was out of the loop for a bit since as a mech user nothing new lately has really caught my attention (mainly thanks to it going full cycle with squonking making a comeback and chinese companies purging new products every other day) and before I knew it it was time to change ditch my year old vtc4s :c

and the blame isn't solely on unscrupulous sellers imho, especially when the norm here is to buy say a mod, and it's battery ada free? charger ada free? tank ada free? wire? kapas? tweezer? flavour? lol c:

This post has been edited by olivur: Feb 10 2018, 11:33 PM

I have both, actually all three members of the hi-cap brigade (HG2, 30Q and the VTC6).

The VTC6s, while the they do get hotter then the Sammys when pushed to the limit (they can actually do 20a while they're "just" rated at 15a, go read Mooch's review), they also seem to wear out (lose charge cap) slower compared to the 30Qs when they're being drained at more "reasonable" rates (they're one of the preferred laptop batt packs for a reason). Hence, they go into my ADV, SS TC setup for the capacity and the "durability" (as I don't really push them to the max on that setup).

The 30Qs go to my high drain (claps and other crazy wire) Dna200 dripper setup, due to their cooler running at the 20a limit. Also, their slightly faster wear doesn't really matter as I don't really use the "Claps" setup all that often.

The HG2s? Backups, for my old RX2/3. They're not better than either of the above (prolly because mine not really high grade ones) but is good enough for typical use.

Oh and I got my new batch of VTC6s straight from Japan (actually, I got them IN Japan during the Osaka Vape Fest thing late last year), and this new batch is actually even better than the ones I got from GB. Maybe it was taken from a better grade batch, or maybe swiped straight from the Kumamoto plant... though TBH, from their serial numbers, my VTC6s, old and new, are ALL from Kumamoto actually lol.



marquis I'm currently Vaping a dual coil, 40ohm-ish, spaced 316L setup at 460f, 60w preheat (1s) and 50w constant. Mats used are GV 316L wire (28AWG I think, need to check) + Kendo Gold cotton.

TBH this setup actually really does very well ONLY with my ADV juice (the N100 Lava Flow)... as with my N100 Lime Candy thingy, it burns things up ever so slightly.

That said, I'm really just Vaping this Lime thingy while waiting for my Lava Flow supplies to arrive, so I'm not gonna reset everything, BUT that just goes to show that TC settings (heck, setting in general lah) is EXTREMELY subjective, and highly dependent on what you're Vaping, how you like to Vape it, and what you're Vaping it on.

You can take my setup as a guideline if you want, BUT my setup is pretty TH heavy (coz tekak naga, what to do), so take whatever numbers I put up there and put it down a few notches lest you cough yourself to death with the TH.

In regards to Mods kicking you out of TC, well some tanks have shit electrical connection down to the 510 (and TBH, sometimes the 510 themselves are shit) so what you get is an erratic ohm reading... which is the main thing behind being kicked out of TC. Crappy coils can ALSO do that, so watch out for those too, but yeah most of the time you get kicked out simply because the mod can't consistently measure the ohm increase you're supposed to get while TC-Vaping... or whatever wire you're using isn't responding the way it should (aka, according to its TCR value).

So, if you get kicked out on one tank and can TC okay on another, look at your coils first. If your coils are okay, then it's probably the tank. If the tank TCs fine on another mod, well, then that particular tank probably just hates that particular mod. As unscientific as it may sound, with the crap tolerances that Mods and Tanks are being manufactured, its actually not that unlikely lol.

AND, to be COMPLETELY honest, folks use 316L simply because it's the easiest SS wire to get (and because most Mods have a setting for it). It's actually NOT the best SS wire for TC, due to its crap TCR. 430 SS is actually better for TC... but due to the lack of Nickel it RUSTS like nobody's business (plus its pretty hard to get here too).

316L TC is actually pretty much of a crap shoot if you go too far below 0.5 ohms (0.3-0.4 is still kinda sorta okay though), so you gotta keep in mind not to build (or buy coils that are built) too low.

As for the Reload, yeah mine is a clone. Unfortunately, having to INSTALL a freaking app just to get the ori (when they were still selling them) didn't really sit all that well for me... not that they shipped to Malaysia anyway. So yeah, I got mine from Debubu on Shopee, as I was REALLY in need of a tank back then and FT was gonna be Effing Terlajak shipping wise for sure.

Wasn't even a Kindbright clone IINM, but it was made reasonably well (besides the sharp-ish top) and I got one spare glass so I was pretty happy already.

Fuuuuuh. Apologies for the info dump but yeah, TC Vaping is actually all this lol. Hence why most folks just don't bother. Personally I still think TC is pretty awesome for ADV setups though (in terms of Vape consistency and wick/coil longevity), so I do hope you keep at it.

I'll be around if you have any more issues with TC.

And, folks, do correct me if I'm wrong anywhere. One of the disadvantages of carrying all this info around is that you tend to mix things up lol.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Feb 11 2018, 01:17 AM

those 25R from ready product, which means u see some nipple on positive n Negative part ..... some ppl don't like it ....



This post has been edited by SonnyCooL: Feb 11 2018, 01:40 AM

Try guess mooch battery from who ... hahhahaha
Btw is true, lg n sony don't sell their product direct to public, exporting n international batt trade is not as easy as u think, try think abt world environment and certain agreement.
1. Sony manufacture in japan. (Very small factory, actually i do suspect they don't have their own factory now, most rewrap batt, is base on their current finacial status + they don't produce that much product compare to those day)
2. Lg manufacturing in china, export from hk.
3. Most samsung manufacturing from malaysia,
4. Panasonic partial manufacturing in malaysia. ( they also world bigger battery manufacture + reserve).

This post has been edited by SonnyCooL: Feb 11 2018, 01:49 AM

AFAIK, the "small" Kumamoto plant is STILL churning out 18650 batts (after "pausing" for a bit due to the Kumamoto earthquake a few years back), but yeah, I THINK I did hear that they did tutup kedai a few out-of-JP plants afterwards due to their current "situation"... so you're probably correct that they're probably not making as much 18650s as they used to.

But they ARE still churning, at least last I checked. Even my "Japan" batch of 4 VTC6s are still very new (bought Nov 2017, serials indicate Sept-Oct 2017 batch from Kumamoto).

As for Sammy manufacturing in MY, I can concur as its actually part of the serial number, and most of my Sammy 18650s are clearly labeled as being from Malaysia.

Pana and LG I'm not privy as I wasn't (and still aren't) entirely curious about them lol, though Pana being big in the battery world I do know as Tesla pretty much buys TONNES of batts from them (or used to anyway, not sure now if Tesla is still stocking from them or from someone else).

As for it not being entirely easy, really bro, if there's a need, there will be folks willing to supply. If Sony/LG doesn't sell direct to public, there will still be ways and means. I mean all of mine pretty much checks out in terms of serial numbers and approximate performance (in terms of physical appearance, drain characteristics, caps and the fact that they're wearing those DAMN fragile Sony warps), so they're pretty much fine in my books.

Though, of course, being in a world where fakes run rampant (and the fact that you don't want your potential lithium-based explosives to be "fake"), I do agree that it pays to be a tad... weary and careful.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Feb 11 2018, 02:55 AM

sorry bro ... i'm ex-importer of 18650 for malaysia vape for VE but as i said EX, knowledge might not as good compare with current user (especially google research) .....

for others USER: how to check fake battery: check the word "3"

This post has been edited by SonnyCooL: Feb 11 2018, 04:07 AM

Well, I already knew you were involved in the battery trade, that was never in doubt lol. I was just bouncing my readings on the Kuma plant in particular because I did look up into it quite a bit last year...

... though the Tech manufacturing world moves quick so only God knows what they're up to these days TBH.

Oh well, if Sony really IS exiting the 18650 business, hopefully Sammy will stick around to cover up the slack, at least for us high drain vape folks anyway.

This post has been edited by Eiraku: Feb 11 2018, 05:31 AM

any recommended seller at shopee for vtc5a ar lg hg2?

Thanks man. Appreciate info dumps tbh. Only way one can learn. Ultra appreciative since it's targeted info, so minimises my own need for research and piecing it all together. A couple more questions if you don't mind

1) I take it the reload is your ADV setup? Any difference in juice consumption between a dual coil setup against a single coil Clapton? Flavour wise?

2) I'm starting to get a bit of a burnt hit when pulling for more than 5s, 320F, 47W on an SS Clapton (.27 Ohm). From what I've read, running at TC is supposed to help against this. Any ideas as to why?

3) Since you've mentioned the Reload, I've done a bit more research and am contemplating between that, and the Merlin Mini for a dual coil option. Of the two, which do you find better? I think I'm gonna go with the Reload anyways, since it's only about ten dollars. Thanks for the debubu info. Will possibly look into that if I become impatient. Any other tank you would recommend?


Still can be used though right even with the nip? Anymore tips on identifying an authentic 25R? Didn't realise how much of a guru that walks amongst us

I misread @Eiraku 's post earlier. There *is* stock for the VTC6s. I misread the "s" for an "a". There is a dude here that has a shop in Shopee. Haven't personally bought from him yet as his cells were out of stock last I checked. You could give them a try. Shop name is patch-something I think.

I'd stay away from HG2 right now. Just...too many fakes in the market man. But hey, I'm still a bit of a noob, maybe our otais here can help you out.