Sorry May17 means 31May2017.

Unifi areas also a lot of breakdowns. TM is also busy with buildup of bandwidth and upgrading existing unifi customers and delay is already reported. Streamyx may be more stable than Unifi in the next few months.

HyppTV (worth RM30) is included in RM129/149 Unifi Lite package. You can get 9 free premium channels for x months, under "Jumbo Breakout Campaign"
https://www.tm.com.my/hypptv/Pages/promo/ju...REAKOUT-TNC.pdf

https://www.tm.com.my/AboutTM/InvestorRelat...Plan%202017.pdf
Look at Page 8... FY2013, 88% Unifi customers were VIP5 (RM149 or less). 1H2016, 32% were still at 5mbps and a large portion of 68% (10mbps or higher) were ex-VIP5 customer who enjoyed free upgrade to 10mbps but still paying RM149 or less. Those VIP5 or ex-VIP5 users are being converted to Unifi Lite. So don't assume many existing customers will go for downgrade from 30/50 to 10. Logically almost none of Unifi 100 users will be interested to downgrade as they can downgrade to 30/50 anytime, affordability is not an issue. Without VIP5(RM149) or Unifi Lite, a lot of existing Streamyx users at new Unifi areas (HSBB2, after 2015) reject TM's offer to upgrade to Unifi 30/50/100.

This post has been edited by ClarenceT: May 11 2017, 02:47 PM

I am guessing, I am not working for TM or TM's agent. This is what I observed at Unifi Advance marketing campaign. Why standard Unifi 30 at RM199 then they promoted at RM179 (bcoz secretly Voice RM20 is not included)? Haha if they really want to convert Streamyx 1/2/4/8 users to Unifi Lite, they may use the same marketing strategy again. For 1 month free subscription, you can already get this incentive at TM's website for Streamyx and Unifi 30/50/100, but not extended to Unifi Lite yet!

Free upgrade to 50Mbps is for those existing customers subscribed before 28/2/2017. A lot of existing Streamyx/Unifi customers get discounts (RM10/RM20/...) from TM, especially beyond contract period. So they are buying VIP5(being converted to Unifi Lite) at RM129/139, Adv30/50 at RM169 etc. We should expect another revision (price and speed) in 2019.

http://www.soyacincau.com/2016/04/05/tm-un...rom-rm199month/

Unifi Lite 10 is the replacement product provided by TM for existing Unifi VIP 5 users (free upgrade from 5 to 10). Most of the Unifi customers will be using Unifi Lite. TM outlets had discontinued selling VIP5 since 2015 and yet to officially launch (or relaunch) Unifi Lite. Only some TM authorised agents are allowed to (pre) sell at certain locations at this moment.

This post has been edited by ClarenceT: May 12 2017, 01:40 PM

It is an alternative product, not a upgrade or downgrade. Unifi Lite RM129 (RM137 after +GST) doesn't come with free calls (+RM20) and HyppTV box but download at 12mbps(+/-) and upload at 6mbps(+/-); And, Streamyx 8mbps RM140 (RM149 after +GST) enjoyed free calls to TM numbers, HyppTV box, download at 10mbps(+/-) and upload at 1mbps (+/-).

This post has been edited by ClarenceT: May 12 2017, 02:10 PM

TM must have some new products to encourage existing Streamyx users at HSBB & SUBB areas to convert to Unifi. Then they can remove the copper network as running dual systems (PSTN copper and IP Fibre) is not productive and could be costly in maintaining old and obsolete system. TM could anytime launch ADSL2+ 10/16/21mbps (using existing copper lines) but it never happens, they go for VDSL2/FTTH instead. They will have to switch off Streamyx when ADSL technology is dead.

This post has been edited by ClarenceT: May 12 2017, 03:57 PM

Just wait lah, you will get it (or similar product), it is just a matter of time. Very soon, even you don't convert to VDSL/FTTH, they will stop your ADSL.

This post has been edited by ClarenceT: May 12 2017, 04:12 PM

I haven't seen the terms and conditions, I can't answer you. Worse case, you can get Unifi Lite in April 2018 when your contract ends.

They are doing it since 2015 under HSBB2+SUBB projects and partly funded by Govt. Their capital investment will be at highest in 2017. They shall upgrade their backbone, exchange, cabinet (fibre from exchange to roadside cabinet or building) first before providing the unifi service at "last mile". Also,they don't install copper lines at new housing areas.

This post has been edited by ClarenceT: May 12 2017, 05:10 PM

Haha the promo is 9 free premium HyppTV channels for x months. Important or rubbish?

Haha. Refuse to pay premium price, so don't get premium parts still complaining!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Broadband_Network
As originally proposed wired connections would have provided up to 100 Mbit/s, later increased to 1 Gbit/s; after the election of the Abbott government in 2013 this was downgraded to a minimum of 25 Mbit/s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openreach
In 2009, BT announced Openreach would connect 2.5 million British homes to the higher speed FTTP network service by 2012 and 25% of the UK. However, by the end of September 2015 only 250,000 homes were connected.[18] Instead, BT offered an 'FTTP on Demand' product,[19] but in January 2015, BT stopped taking orders for the on-demand product amid reports that customers were forced to wait over a year to be connected, whilst other orders 'failed' (were not connected).

Some developed nations were ambitious to provide FTTP but end up using VDSL2 due to the cost and demand.

Unifi Lite also use Fibre optic (IP) backbone and either Fibre Optic (FTTP) or existing copper line (VDSL2) at "last mile". So Unifi Lite don't use Streamyx infra till "last mile", otherwise you can use back the same phone number! Voice service at Unifi and Unifi Lite is in fact VOIP (Voice over Internet Protocol). Streamyx(ADSL) uses the frequency spectrum above the band used by voice telephone calls.

VDSL2 limit is not at 10mbps only so TM has rooms to double the speed to 20-25mbps (SUBB requirement) in 2019.

FTTP is more suitable at high density urban areas only such as Klang Valley (and Singapore, Hong Kong etc) as the people are more willing to pay for premium service.

https://www.imoney.my/articles/no-more-slow-internet-by-2017
My friend, Rome wasn't built in a day. The HSBB2/SUBB would take 10 years from 2015, but most of the works will be completed by 2019 (when "double speed, half price" may happen due to capital investment). If your area is not covered after 2025, you are the very unfortunate few percent of population!

Even ADSL2+ download speed can reach 24Mbps (max technical limitatation) but TM never offers this streamyx service.

This post has been edited by ClarenceT: May 13 2017, 11:44 AM

[quote=westlife,May 13 2017, 12:32 PM]
my Friend 2025 is Super Long wait still.

Exactly ADSL2+ can theoretically support higher speed but the max that TM has offered till today is 8Mbps and most importantly it is not even all areas can support. Reason is simple, attenuation of the line is too high for TM to even consider offering it. If they can offer, they should have offered it Long time. Not even need to look for other alternative to offer unifi lite. Same thing for unifi lite they can only offer such Low speed than theoretical it means there are much more technical limitation they cannot overcome. Same issue also not all area can support too.

My house is considered New 3 years++ I also stuck with slow streamyx 4Mbps for 2.5 years before I even get the unifi coverage at my house here. I am Glad that I am the lucky one still as I at least get it. Internet to me is very important at least I have decent Fiber connection to use.
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First, your local TM exchange must be upgraded to support IP platform (around 100+ exchanges had been upgraded). Then, obviously there are some residents in your exchange area (a few km radius) already get their Unifi service.

Then, TM pull fibre optic cable from exchange to the street cabinet (distance is not an issue for fibre optic).

I don't have HSBB2/SUBB design standards. But I guess it could be 0.75-1km radius (from cabinet to the user's premise), then VDSL2 can go 25Mbps or higher (basic requirement for some countries). TM offer 10Mbps now and can "double speed" in 2019 (a bit upset at the beginning but happy at the end). If it is less than 0.5km radius, VDSL can go 50mbps or higher. So in the future, if they want to upgrade, they just need to build VDSL2 cabinet closer to the user's premise. The best scenario, it is FTTH, fibre optic direct to the user's premise.

So it is how and when TM wants to sell their new product? Our friends here can't wait!

This post has been edited by ClarenceT: May 13 2017, 01:13 PM

If your area is already planned under HSBB2/SUBB, it is just a matter of time. just wait.
If it is not, get your housing estate committee/association to help, get 50% of residents willing to convert to Unifi, then it is commercial viable for TM to install the alternative network.

Copper at "last mile" only. Using existing copper lines at the street to cut cost. Unifi (including Lite) is using(Fubre) FTTH or VDSL2 (FTTC/FTTB) technology, different from Streamyx ADSL. So they don't really upgrade Streamyx infra, otherwise they could have launched Streamyx ADSL2+ 10/16/21 Mbps. Technically ADSL2+ can reach 24Mbps only, but VDSL2 can reach 100Mbps.