QUOTE(dragenet @ Jun 11 2019, 11:51 AM)
I suggest you delete all the post with defaulter list. Not worth breaking the law right? You have made your point.
Is your name on the list?Why U Buy Cyberjaya? v7
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Jun 11 2019, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 11 2019, 06:27 PM) No bidder. Below 300k also nobody interested in this vacant, non bumi unit. Believe this is a leading indicator of cbj high rise price.And is a 3 bedroom unit, not studio!!! Updated price and details as below: J-06-08, Block J, Mutiara Ville, Persiaran Sepang, Cyber 11, 63000 Cyberjaya Reserve price 🔥🔥RM262,440🔥🔥 935 sqft, end lot unit Freehold Auction: 13 Jul 19 (Sat) *Non bumi lot *Vacant unit Layout: » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 11 2019, 07:41 PM |
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Jun 11 2019, 08:41 PM
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Jun 12 2019, 12:05 PM
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Jun 13 2019, 05:54 AM
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Jun 14 2019, 07:56 AM
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QUOTE(Just Saying @ Jun 14 2019, 06:07 AM) Such a lengthy reply, not only this post but all the previous posts as well. I wonder if you’re jobless? So much free time. FYI, I don’t read your post anymore. Typical of cbj lovers and lousy loser, loss debate/points and resorted to personal attacks.This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 14 2019, 08:12 AM |
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Jun 15 2019, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(dragenet @ Jun 15 2019, 02:56 PM) Initally LRT was planned for Cyberjaya and Putrajaya. You can see there is a bridge crossing the lake from Cyberjaya to Putrajaya, meant for LRT. Then during Badawi era LRT was scrapped altogether, due high cost. LRT was planned to go through Cyberjaya CBD area. Cbj was a playground of ft minister. Hence, monorail, lrt, tram, etc. Autonomous bus will probably be next.Then came Najib's era, SPAD announced alternative plan to connect Cyberjaya, Putrajaya, which is Tram, much cheaper compare to LRT. MRT memang not plan to go through Cyberjaya CBD area. |
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Jun 18 2019, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(kekhitam @ Jun 18 2019, 11:33 AM) Any investment/business have a risk. I feel sorry for those are bleeding each month cause not able to rent/sold their investment. All the big companies? cbj has been existent for over 20 years, more big companies yet to move in?cbj was start with Office and commercial facilities. With the MSC status, all the big companies have moved to cbj. After few years, Residential area are up with plenty highrise and few landed properties with hefty pricetag. Definitely not averyone is afford to buy house for own stay in cbj. You have to be in T20 group to able bought landed properties here. So, not all workers in msc company here are T20. Thats why cbj still have low population and The only thing professional out there are choosing cbj for own stay because of MEX and elite existence, and near to klia/klia2, erl pjaya station. And now with sjkc and a few of international school definitely will attract chinese and expatriates to move in here. In my opinion cbj need another 10-20 years to fully occupied and outsider will stop criticized about cbj. so cbj is now high class township only for t20 group? how many investors could sustain negative cash flow for 10-20 years? QUOTE(kekhitam @ Jun 18 2019, 01:01 PM) Yeay i got your point. If they bought for own stay, there won't be that many vacant units in cbj.If i’m happily married today, might be tomorrow we got divorce If today i’m healthy and able to reply post in here, might be i get hit by nigerian and die tomorrow Nobody know what happen in the future or know when u gonna die. So what is wrong with new gullible young folks want to purchase their first property in cbj for own stay(i presume)? If they afford and plan for own stay, i dont see any issue with this. Well, except for ur previous post, u said people need to think in 5-10years plan if able to liquid the assets if they need to buy and move to bigger house. The thing is, if they choose for own stay of course they have weigh every pro and cons about the city, which is thank to you able to highlight all the cons about cbj. Most of us here are bought for own stay. For those failed investment, we feel sorry for them. as i said, investment have a risk. |
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Jun 19 2019, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(MiLKTea @ Jun 19 2019, 08:25 PM) It's only same story because some ppl just have that bitter feeling about cbj. So weird....what has a city done to him/her that they need to write long-winded grandmother story just to prove their biased points. Some people work in kl/pj/etc but choose to live in cbj. Then these weird ppl cry father mother why you so stupid spend so much on transportation why not just rent a shoebox room nearer to your office. Isn't it weird they dont say the same thing to ppl that work in cbj but live in kl/pj/etc, or even work in kl but live in pj and vice versa? QUOTE(MiLKTea @ Jun 19 2019, 08:45 PM) Who surprised? Peasant like you? Lol. Classic of financially stretched cbj lovers.Talk as if every house in kl/pj/etc are big size and every house in cbj are shoebox size. I say you really have shallow knowledge about cbj. But oh well....haters gonna hate.... |
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Jun 20 2019, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(Namelessone1973 @ Jun 20 2019, 01:53 PM) I think buying house really depends of individual preference. It is not like buying cars where a lot of people take resell value as one of the most important criteria. The surrounding environment, price, accessibility and a lot other factors are taken into consideration. Most people will of course be wary if the area have a lot of empty lots but some will take it as a good opportunity to get a good deal. No doubt Cyberjaya have some problems but is it that bad until its totally unlivable? Only cbj lovers claim other areas are not liveable.QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 20 2019, 04:05 PM) No one would know exactly when is the perfect timing to buy a property ..until and unless u look back maybe 5 to 10 years from now , and say I should buy in Year 2020..coz soon after that the market moves up.. One doesn't need to buy at the bottom, near the bottom is good enough. Besides, property price move slower than stocks, commodities, btc, etc. One could have plenty of time to buy near the bottom.Buy low , but not buying at bottom coz no one knows when the bottom is .... QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 20 2019, 04:23 PM) Only herd members move with the herd.This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 21 2019, 05:13 AM |
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 20 2019, 02:59 PM) Extracts : Statistically, home ownership hinder job mobility.Have you heard? Owning a house is an investment, except that it’s really not. Home ownership is a vital wealth-building tool, aside from the fact that it’s financial suicide. Historically, the returns for owning a home outpace stocks, although actually they don’t. Why you should buy: The struggle to save for a home today may provide safety and security later By Jeff Andrews You can find plenty of academics and financial advisers, armed with spreadsheets and economic models, who will be happy to demonstrate how their fiscal wizardry arrived at this conclusive finding: When it comes down to dollars and cents, owning a house just doesn’t add up. If they were analyzing stocks, bonds, or the latest Wall Street product designed to maximize returns, their wisdom would need be needed. But in assessing whether to buy a house, one needs to take qualitative factors into account in addition to those quantitative factors. Because at the end of the day, you need somewhere to live. Shelter is a basic human need The debate over the benefits of homeownership is often discussed in terms of return on investment. That’s not the right way to think about it. Shelter is a basic human need. It won’t make financial sense for everyone or in every city to buy a home, but for many, it will. And if it does, you should do it because you need shelter. It’s not an investment, but it’s not financial suicide Fact: You should not buy a house thinking you’ll get rich off its price appreciation, or that it’ll ultimately pay for itself. In some markets that may be true. But it’s better to not think of homeownership as an investment asset like stocks and bonds, but as the four or more walls in which you live. |
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QUOTE(MiLKTea @ Jun 20 2019, 05:19 PM) In other words you are saying....KL residents work in KL, PJ residents work in PJ, Nilai residents work in Nilai, Semenyih residents work in Semenyih, Puchong residents work in Puchong? Why one needs to limit to kampung? Sg, Phnom Penh, hk, Dubai, Riyadh, London, Doha, etcLMFAO. |
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Jun 20 2019, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(wsoon82 @ Jun 20 2019, 07:33 PM) Some people see some units in a condo lelong for 50% the price then they label all units in that condo at loosing 50% value. But they didn't realise those lelong units may be facing shit pond. And the other side of the units are higher valued. How much value is condo on the other side could be higher?Same like the one unit lelong in my condo for various reasons. I don't think we should make conclusion without looking into details. And don't label all condos in cbj la, people stay there are not stupid people.... Cbj residents are certainly not stupid, just that many bought on emotion or sentiment value. For reasons why there are many foreclosure in cbj. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 21 2019, 05:34 AM |
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QUOTE(wsoon82 @ Jun 21 2019, 08:10 AM) Different condos in an area will certainly fetch different price range, when you zoom into each condo there will be good units and bad units. Except new launch during 2011-2014; there is only a very small percentage of units of a particular project are transacted at any one time. Isn't these numbers perceived as market value? If these transacted was used as benchmark during uptrend, could similarly used as benchmark during other time.When you label many of them with negative word, you don't even know who are them how many of them and the reasons behind their decision for their purchase, the lelong units are 1% (or whatever percentage) of those units in cbj, you use that to label many of them? I am not denying there may be a problem. People should take it into account when making decision but people should not use it as a Conclusion. What is the difference between you and a foreigner who said Malaysian are not civilised, when he/she may never come to Malaysia, even have personal bad experience, does that apply to all Malaysian?? Perception is a very interesting word which I am still learning how to manage. If one claims nigeria, Afghanistan, Syria and Iraq are unsafe country for holiday; do you need to experience to prove it? |
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QUOTE(wsoon82 @ Jun 21 2019, 09:37 AM) You can't take your whatever data and go to a unit owner and say I want your unit at this price. Take the money and sign it..... It is not that simple. If owner has no intention to sell, asking price could be ridiculously/syok sendiri high.Cbj is near to you and you can experience it safely. I went to Nigeria before (certainly not like what you perceived), the other countries yet to experience. There is no point to discuss with someone who is not open. Its your choice, just don't plant the perception on others. |
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QUOTE(xyyap @ Jun 21 2019, 10:21 AM) U are right Unless you are higher than mount Everest, you have no idea how high is next mountain. Only jaguh kampung find his hill is the top of the world.I pity that 3 guys, talk so much for what? Especially ah wild, sorry if I offend him, he better work hard than keep talk EMPTY on his theories If half Malaysian like this, waste time & never focus, no wonder our country income is capped Jaguh kampung mentality is the main reason this country is lagging behind. Until you are wearing a euro 30k watch to work and a private bank client, you are not in top echelon. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 21 2019, 12:23 PM |
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If one has the chance to land klia from the north, could observe vast areas are available and prepared for landed near cbj. |
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QUOTE(kkk8787 @ Jun 22 2019, 10:23 AM) by the master developer themselves in their masterplan. however this was around 5 years ago. when they came out with the masterplan. recent talks with their ppl seems to indicate they are sticking with it although I failed to get a written reply from them. However nothing is set in stone I guess. When cbj was first developed? mid 90's?however at 3000 is still a big amount of landed. per parcel, of SEG say, you only get 100+ max. thats almost close to 30 parcels of SEG. In contrast, When I was in USJ during late 80s early 90s, Sime Darby never actually had a masterplan, they kept building landed residential, and luck was on their side when in mid early 2000s, boom sudden population explosion in USJ , and thats when their commercial flourishes. and the cycle completes, commercial attracts more population, which attracts even better commercials if u were staying in USJ in early 90s, ppl will keep asking you why stay in jungle. Now USJ has matured well. Cyberjaya is sort of half half,not enough population to sustain quality commercials which cant attract more ownstays. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 22 2019, 11:17 AM |
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QUOTE(kuci_mayong @ Jun 22 2019, 12:02 PM) I saw this post an instantly reminded me of wild_card_my Oversupply in cbj was known A FEW YEARS ago but cbj lovers either ignored or brush aside. anyone who bought in last 5 years are lucky to make even. most if not all those with vested interest e.g investors, re agents are talking up cbj to entice/fishing/baiting for new buyers. Btw hope you don’t take it the wrong way. Not a personal attack. Just think there is something hidden behind your critical analysis of cyberjaya. People don’t spend so much time unless they have some vested interest or hidden motive on something. [attachmentid=10268290] if investors are already suffering, why need more new buyers to suffer? don't you think new buyers deserve a balance view? else they could be trapped like those who bought. This post has been edited by icemanfx: Jun 22 2019, 01:16 PM |
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