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icemanfx
post Jun 10 2019, 12:12 PM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 10 2019, 12:05 PM)
Mate, I am asking you to open your own thread. Mate, the topic of this thread is "WHY YOU BUY CYBERJAYA" and not "WHY CYBERJAYA IS BAD". Do you even understand before calling people cyberbully and tyrants. No one want to censor you. People are just sick and tired of your rantings!
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If one wants to sing praises in the public, must prepared to take criticism too else better to syok sendiri in closed group.

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post Jun 10 2019, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 10 2019, 12:15 PM)
If one wants to sing criticism in the public, must prepared to take criticism too else better to syok sendiri in closed group.  cool2.gif
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Instead of criticism, cbj lovers resorted name calling, personal attack and what not.
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post Jun 10 2019, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 10 2019, 12:44 PM)
If they are so irritating, why are you still lurking in this thread?
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To prevent ignorant falling victim to cbj scam.

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post Jun 10 2019, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 10 2019, 01:36 PM)
That is why I keep telling wild_card_my to start a new thread instead of lurking and ranting in this thread.
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More effective to be in this thread. if cbj lovers couldn't take second opinion, could appeal to ts to close this thread.

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post Jun 10 2019, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 10 2019, 01:51 PM)
Just curious, why do you hate Cyberjaya so much? I know there are a lot of investors got burnt because of Cyberjaya? Are you one of those people who got duped by investors to take over their property? Or did your family members or friends bought one of the so called toxic investments?

Don't tell me nothing happen because no normal people will do what you or wild_card_my do in this thread. I've never seen people hate a place so much like you and wild_card_my.
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I have no vested interest in cbj; i have no feeling on nor hate cbj; and my comments on cbj is neutral, unbiased and fair.

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 10 2019, 01:51 PM)
Just ignore her , she is just like Donald Trumps, who wants to police whole world...and aim to win the next election.

She is anti investments since day one..for some years...and what she invested ? no one knows ..that is why she callls others as fake home stayers , fake investors..

U know she police all Cyberjaya threads 24/7 days  a week..as a full time job.? How free she is ....
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lyn is one good resource to study herd behaviour. those blinded by greed see different opinion as noise, hater, etc.

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post Jun 10 2019, 03:32 PM

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QUOTE(kekhitam @ Jun 10 2019, 03:12 PM)
I like the theory which is her get dumped by her boyfriend 20years ago at 20 tower something in cbj.
Gosh couldn’t find that post anymore, must be in one of gazillions threads of cbj  biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 10 2019, 03:31 PM)
That is why she supervises Cyberjaya 24/7 ..with ultimate aim to close all the Cyberjaya threads.
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Classic of cbj lovers. wonder who are the troll?

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post Jun 10 2019, 03:46 PM

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QUOTE(dragenet @ Jun 10 2019, 02:49 PM)
We are giving our fair feedback that cyberjaya is a liveable city, that's all.

For investors, it's their own risk to take; Cyberjaya or elsewhere.

For those who buy for own-stay, Cyberjaya is not a bad option.
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There is no doubt cbj is a liveable city just like any other place. however, only cbj lovers condemned other places e.g cheras, okr, puchong, etc are not liveable.

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post Jun 10 2019, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 10 2019, 03:49 PM)
Where is the proof ? that we said cheras, okr, puchong " are not liveable"

or just yr imaginary ego
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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 10 2019, 03:56 PM)
Maybe she confuse with this thread with a kopitiam thread. Over there everywhere also not for human live 😁
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You can track back to earlier versions.

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post Jun 10 2019, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 10 2019, 04:10 PM)
Ya she cannot remember which boyfriend dumped her ..only thing she is certain of is Cyberjaya...
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What's more need to say of quality and character of cbj lover.

before you complain of others in this thread, you should look at yourself in the mirror first. cbj lovers only have themselves to blame on spoiling the party.

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post Jun 10 2019, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 10 2019, 07:23 PM)
What happened to your  high standard threads .u opened so far ?

Seems the only  thread talks  about Auction is active , the rest ..5 months and above old  ( not active ) ? Even Bean abandoned u 5 months ago ?

What happened to all yr high standard threads  ?

My Proof >

https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ult_type=topics
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https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=Sear...ult_type=topics
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post Jun 10 2019, 08:11 PM

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QUOTE(Babizz @ May 8 2019, 09:45 PM)
Believe this needs another round.

K02-03, Jalan Setia Marina 3/2, Setia Eco Glades,Cyberjaya ( Isle of Kamares)

Reserve price  🔥🔥RM 675,000🔥🔥        1414sqft
Freehold         Auction:18/5/19       Non bumi

Launch price from❌ RM 854,205❌ ( 2015 )
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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Jun 10 2019, 07:52 PM)
Unit sold at reserve price 607.5k just now. Single bidder win without challenge. 
Very good catch. Bought at much cheaper price than all the neighboring units.  :thumbsup:
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The bestest of cbj is substantial cheaper than launch price 4 years ago. No wonder cbj losers are trying hard to drum up.
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post Jun 10 2019, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 10 2019, 07:49 PM)
Thank you .

Proved that I stay in Cyberjaya , not faked one

For u ..why u need to talk in low class Cyberjaya thread  since u are many class above us ...?

What happened to yr predictions since Year 2011 ? Bubble and blood in Street ?

8 Years later ( now ), still predicting when the bubble is bursting ?
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until today, few people realized kv property bull run 2011-2014 was a fallout of u.s fed qe. as you mentioned, i warned bbb/uuu a few years ago; exuberant price rise was not sustainable without corresponding income rise. at current market sentiment, bottom price is not yet insight. as you mentioned, economic recession is possible next year. historically, property price bottomed a few years AFTER economic recession.

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post Jun 10 2019, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 10 2019, 10:45 PM)
U take Year US Sub Prime as reference ? Have any experts here talk about Sub Prime in Malaysia including Toxic assets ? Show Me

1) Do U know once the Govt removes the price control of below 1Million for foreigners , foreigners would come in to sapu our properties ..Why Govt wants to control ? to protect local people
2) High RGPT Tax for what ? ...basically to cool down the market, force prices to drop . To  Stop excessive speculation..
3) Banks strict control of  lending
4) Malaysia is trapped as Middle Income Nation, but could be out of the trap in 2 years time..

The whole plan is to bring down market prices ..so termed as Toxic Assets ?

So once again U created a Sub Prime in Malaysia ...by your own term , right ?
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- What is the likelihood for gomen to reduce minimum price for foreigner to buy to below $1m?
- if income is taxed, why not profit from property investment?
- cheap and easy credit in 2011-2014 was a fallout for u.s fed qe. u.s fed qt will similarly effect local liquidity.
- until there is vast improvement in productivity and drastic change in gomen policy, malaysia will remain in middle income trap. beside, it will take years if not decade to be free from middle income trap.
- property overhang is real and happening. until overhang is reduced substantially, price remain suppressed.
- if those bought multiple properties with loan compression is not subprime, what is?

QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 10 2019, 10:59 PM)
Btw I buy for home stay only .and property is fully paid.

So u create another term to describe me , right ?
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Congratulation if your property is fully paid. however, your behaviour and reaction on cbj property market is unlike one.

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post Jun 10 2019, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Jun 10 2019, 11:08 PM)
Wow.. That's good for u.

I just don't get why must one bleed to buy here and stay...keep saying toxic this and that. Buying other places also need to pay and most likely on loan... So those consider bleed or not? Or buy else where u get paid to stay in? Lol
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Because other places didn't and don't sing praises like cbj lovers.

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post Jun 10 2019, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Jun 10 2019, 11:16 PM)
BTW Toxic assets would apply to the whole world expect Serenia City
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Outside forest city, cbj high rise has probably the highest proportion of overhang in the country.

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post Jun 10 2019, 11:37 PM

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QUOTE(thecaterpillar @ Jun 10 2019, 11:27 PM)
I get it. But do u know that majority of the property is the same and its not specific to cyberjaya. U only know cyberjaya, but many of us here owns property not only in cyberjaya. Its the same else where coz the market is slow since 2-3 years ago. Rental everywhere is falling, not specific for cyberjaya. But I do agree sudden oversupply last year and this year in cyberjaya floods the market and takes longer time for market to adjust. Its apparent at development that has more investors than owner occupier for obvious reasons.

I and some forumers see it as a good market correction. Its not always rosy for investment. Nevertheless, we still think that this is a nice place to live. And I hope that with the market correction with genuine buyers taking over those properties from those over leveraged investors, things will pick up and the property should not remain 'toxic' forever. U need to see the potential of the city. Long term we still don't know who will be proven right. But now we r enjoying our stay here and I really hope u can channel ur energy to make this place better. Seriously.
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From planning to launch of high rise take a few years and take a few years more to vp. oversupply wasn't sudden but ignored for many years.

current supply of high rise in cbj could accommodate >2 times of existing population. it will take many years for overhang to reduce substantially; until then, price remain suppressed or toxic.

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post Jun 11 2019, 01:19 AM

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QUOTE(dragenet @ Jun 11 2019, 12:54 AM)
Dude you said both cases are bad with defaulters rate; Crystal Serin Residence or Serin Residency. This is NOT TRUE, Serin Residency has very healthy financials. Don't simply comment based on partial facts that you have gathered, and simply make assumption. It's not professional, for a person in mortgage line of business.

And I would advise you don't post defaulters list with their names in a public forum. It is meant to be posted in the property premise only. Again, it is not professional.
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Isn't notice board a public domain?
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post Jun 11 2019, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 11 2019, 10:37 AM)
I’ve tried mex highway.

Super convenient and very fast reach KL from cyber.

Some more with the slip road direct enter MEX in front of Embassy MK commercial there.

If u guys work in KL, have some money and look for quality home can consider cyber.

But if u guys need to use NKVE from cyber to work in Shah Alam etc...not advisable the traffic is very packed there. Any of u guys got better alternative route if stay in cyber and work in Shah Alam?
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Given proportion of high rise overhang in cbj, value is likely to drop faster and lower than other area in kv in next few years. buying high rise in cbj is a losing proposition in the foreseeable future.

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post Jun 11 2019, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(oucheev @ Jun 11 2019, 08:52 AM)
Just an advice. Even though the defaulter list has been shared online, it does not mean you have the right to share them too. It is purely unethical as you are indirectly sharing peoples personal information without their consent which I believe is against PDPA. Some of the defaulters might be staying there and you have just exposed their home address. As a professional mortgage advisor, I believe you should know such information are p&c. Furthermore, the list is close to 5 months old and it might be shorter now. So, whatever information you're sharing might not be up to date. This method of publishing defaulters list are implemented in a lot of condos. It can be very effective once it is out and usually after 2 to 3 months, such list will be shorter.
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Believe this default list was not the first. unless market sentiment improved, the default list could be longer.

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 11 2019, 10:37 AM)
I’ve tried mex highway.

Super convenient and very fast reach KL from cyber.

Some more with the slip road direct enter MEX in front of Embassy MK commercial there.

If u guys work in KL, have some money and look for quality home can consider cyber.

But if u guys need to use NKVE from cyber to work in Shah Alam etc...not advisable the traffic is very packed there. Any of u guys got better alternative route if stay in cyber and work in Shah Alam?
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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Jun 11 2019, 10:50 AM)
Dude. If u want to reply my quote at least be relevant to my sharing and question??

I was highlighting the cyber highway usage issue and u keep coming back to investment value, high rise...etc
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