Wish i could, but im never good at anything in videogames, except maybe fighting games. You carry our flag, our banner, we are proud of you.

Persian emissary:"Our arrows will blot out the sun!"
Stelios: "Then we will fight in the shade"

How can you NOT like those lines? Simple, poetic, effective and stingingly cynical as well.

Susah, bro. Like i said before, Malaysians are a quiet, timid, shy bunch. WE are afraid of showing and expressing ourselves in public.

"You are wise ,Xerxes....as you are divine....and your offer, only a madman would refuse, but...you see...killing all your men out there has put this nasty cramp up my legs *slaps his thigh* and ermm kneeling is definitely out of the question"

My favourite lines would be when the Spartans were "cleaning up" (read: killing the dying) while Leonidas was eating an apple.

Spartan Captain: You know, our Greek friends are dying to have a piece of the action. *stabs a dying Persian on the ground*
Leonidas: *while munching apple* Tell Daxos to gather 20 of his men, able, ready and sober. Stringfellow's note

*Stelios comes running down to Leonidas, out of breath*
Stelios: King Leonidas! *breathing heavily*
Leonidas: Calm down boy, breath easy.
Stelios: *after a moment's pause of steady breathing* The Persian army advances. A contingent. Too small for a charge.
Leonidas: *Looks at his Captain* I leave the company at your charge. *smiling*
Spartan Captain: But, my King...!
Leonidas: Do not worry, my friend. If they assasinate me, entire Sparta will go to war. Pray.....that they are that stupid. Pray........we are that lucky. *Stringfellow's note: How bloody nonchalant is THAT! Selamba AND awesome at the same time!

Leonidas walks up the hill and continues..

Leonidas: *talks with his mouth full munching apple* Besides....there is no reason we cannot be civil about this, cant we? *Stringfellow's note: THIS is the BEST LINE DELIVERED in the movie for me! Leonidas talks about being civil and diplomatic, yet his act of talking with his mouth full clearly belies his intention of being as "Spartan" as he can be. Funny and fcuk-i-dont-a-damn attitude at the same time!

*Leonidas throws his remaining apple to Stelios who takes his bite in laughing.*

Spartan Captain: Yes, my King. *stabs another dying Persian on the ground*


That entire sequence is the best in the movie for me. Of course, the action sequences are God-awesome, but when it comes to spoken dialogues, that sequence i described there, together with "This is blasphemy this is madness.....This is Sparta!" and "Spartans, prepare your breakfast and eat hearty, for tonight, we dine in HELL!" ranks up there as the most memorable dialogues in the movie for me.

P/S: The "Tonight, we dine in Hell!" line is technically inaccurate. Greeks followling their mythologies would say, "Tonight, we dine in Hades!" and not Hell, but since the movie is refreshed to reflect modern definitions, Hell replaces Hades. There might be those who had no brush with anything Greek mythos, that wouldnt have a clue what Hades is.

Stick, Gandalf, Roshan (It's Rohan, not Roshan btw)? Wrong movie! This is about blood-splattering, war-mongering, roar-inducing, testosterone-filling, all-out, balls-out non-stop REAL MEN beating and butchering the $hit out of their nemesis! This is not LOTR, mentioning LOTR is the same name of 300 is blasphemy, this is madness! This is SPARTA!

News from the weekend boxoffice tally, "300" sets a new all-time record of March opening weekend, with USD71million, obliterating Ice Age II that made USD68mil a year back. An R rated movie butchering a kid-friendly U rated flick? That is testament to the might of Sparta! "300" is also the third highest opening weekend movie after "MAtrix Reloaded" and "Passion of Christ", and "300" also would have made its entire budget, which is USD60mil in its opening weekend alone, with USD11mil as profit already. "300" also blew past its other Frank Miller brethren, "Sin City" in boxoffice collection is its 3 day weekend numbers alone, and is projected to continue its boxoffice run past USD200mil. Enviable achievement for an R rated movie, and it was said that "300" helped other U-rated movies like "Wild Hogs" and "Bridge to Terabithia"
since pre-teens under 18 uses tickets bought for these movies to sneak into watching "300". This is a common practice in US cinemas.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Mar 14 2007, 01:43 PM

Not on 360, but on the PS2. The wrath of a single Spartan named Kratos........God of War II.

LOL, time to reclaim what's yours back again. Nicely lah, not the Spartan way.

Dont need no six-pack since there arent any army led by a Persian pondan to begin with.

If they weere complaining that Persians were portrayed wrongly, that is the most laughable whining i have ever heard. They nitpick on that small iissue, when the biggest issue of all left unattended: The Battle of Thermopylae itself! Spartan wear nothing but bronze helmets at the battle, why didnt complain about that in the movie? The Battle was more brutally described in the archives of history than what portrayed in the movie, why no complains? Have we as human beings, become so engrossed with the more fickle side of things , that we lose sight of the bigger goals? And WTF is with that Pro-American bullcrap? You can easily say that the Persians now represent American-invading armies of Iraq, while the Spartan represents the liberating Iraqi, how's that? Why must every medium be propagandized into something political? Why cant these people enjoy the movie for what it is actually is: A medium of story telling and entertainment, without looking for hidden messages and subcounscious brainwashings?

Sorry for getting off a bit there, but i get pissed off when people read too much into what supposed to be a pre-summer popcorn flick, and refuse to watch it on that ridiculous grounds. Those ranting were also directed towards the people you mentioned, Zio, not to you. Kudos to you to report this, im surprised these people could still tie in politic with such a simple action flick.

It's a movie based on a retelling of history, adapted and modernized by the pages of Frank Miller's work in 300 The Graphic Novel. The author takes his own liberties when describing what's Persian and what's Greek. Take it as that, simple. In fact, modern Persians and Greeks would be grateful that people are intrigued to know the retelling of their ancient history, rather than it remained within the dust-laden confines of a forgotten section in a library. Sure, it is hyper-realized, it is stylized , and it is changed, it is a freaking ADAPTATION of history retold. It has gone through time, nobody but the real participants of the battle would really know what happened there. All we have to rely on are scriptures and stories retold, and stories retold have the effect being exaggerated and altered to suit the context of the storyteller and the period of time it's being retold. Not a surprise that modern storytellers like Frank Miller tells this story as it is now in "300", im sure his intentions are for the audience to remember the main gist of the battle and the reasons why it is fought. It's sad that the audience nowadays are more readily tie things to politics and nitpicking small details than reflecting on the real message the movie wants to put across.

Hahahahah, i dont even have to come in here for other to rebuke your post, dear Diazepam. Zio, HairyLGS and even our mod PJ said it best. Those in power would so much dearly wants to politicize everything, movies included. If mankind are so easily swayed by taking whatever being portrayed on the silver screen as the ultimate truth, rather than interpretation of it, then i give up with mankind. If we as human has come to that low, we shouldnt even be appointed the caretaker of this world and kill ourselves already.

Fancy a little story? Try living in North Korea and see how "retelling of history" takes a whole different meaning there, all for the sake of your precious politics and propaganda. What's happening in this movie is the the very lightest of tainting of the truth, the only reason why propagandist like you marked it as important is because it is a popular medium of telling a story, market a product, spread your messages across, political notwithstanding.

So, if you fancy everything to be POLITICAL and laced with CONSPIRACY, then feel free to to think as such. I go to my movies for entertainment, not listening to mass public rallies to sway my political standing, if i have any. Which is why i loathe politics in all its form, it is inherently dirty, even those who meant to do good. It is like choosing between two lesser evils.

Have fun at your movies, im sure our next summer movies like Spider-Man 3, Pirates of Caribbean 3, or even poor Shrek 3 will get politicized by you every time you step into that cinema hall. Me? I just wanna enjoy Spider-Man beating the crap outta Sandman, Captain Jack Sparrow's faceoff with SaoFeng, and Shrek finding King Arthur in these movies. Zero political agendas, maximum enjoyment. Sorry if that sound a little shallow, but i treat my movies as such, unless they are laden with meanings and messages worth pondering for. Pity that you cant enjoy the movie "as it is" and had to insert whatever political angles you care to debate in it. Enjoy!

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Added on March 15, 2007, 3:07 pmSimply put, try exit polls. You do know what those are right?

Exit polls are a survey of how the audience react about a certain movie after it has been screened. That way, you get their most earnest opinion about the movie, since their mind are still fresh with the thoughts and messages they get from the movie.

The simplest for of exit polls/surveys you can get is going out with your bunch of friends. Ask them what they think of the movie. Do they IMMEDIATELY think of the American/Iraq/Iran and tie them to specific groups in the movie, or are they only thinking as such, when avid propagandist like you bring them up. I can bet my entire console collection plus their games here, that they would think more of the action set-pieces in the movie, and next about the message the movie brought across, which is valor, honor and freedom. Once that comes to mind, then only people like you will bring politics into the equation, when there are no such intentions.

The war in the Middle East is fading from our thoughts, we think little of it when it comes to our daily lives. It is people like you who would like to bring those convoluted crap back into our faces, when things like these are the matters that divides peace-loving people like us.

I dont see anything remotely political in the movie, other than a bunch of people fighting for their freedom from oppression of a bigger bunch of people. If you read more into that, then i suggest you exercise that brain power on something more worthwhile, rather than hatching endless political skews.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Mar 15 2007, 03:34 PM

Glad you enjoyed it HKNP. Meant to be enjoyed that way too, i reckon.

We're playing the quote-by-quote game is it? Have at it then.

'Rebuke' my post? You're joking, right?
If those posts are post that disagreed with yours, it falls within rebuke...isnt it?

Are we resorting to name-calling now?
Propagandist is as neutral a calling to artist, historian, pianist and physicist. You feel insulted by the word, or by the meaning that you ASSUME it comes with? Whose assuming now?

Is it an assumption on your part or do you have concrete proof of my role as a 'propagandist'? I don't believe we've even had any sort of internet communication prior to this.
Read the definition I found on the word propagandist:-

"A person who disseminates messages calculated to assist some cause or some government."

Since you subscribe to the idea that all mass media with its mediums are somewhat laced with political inclinations, this directly relates to the definition above. Again i ask, are you offended by the term, or by your own ASSUMPTION what a propagandist means?

Yes, I have already said that I WILL hold a contrarian view to yours.
Again, I am unable to understand how you can assume so much with so little information about me.
You are not as UNASSUMING as you would like to think you are, my dear medicative friend.Read your backpedallings above.

Yes, to have them not equate it to politics is the general intention.
So, which is it? The filmmakers's intention is to tell a story, but propagandist like you<-----i will say this again and again, in contect of the definition i quote above, who are the ones equating present time polotics to a battle that happens ages ago.

I did not bring politics to anything, did I? I was responding to your post that was already laden with politics.
I fail to see any posts in this thread laden with politics before you came in. Unless it's politics of the forum lah, that's common day occurence here. In fact you can argue that every single post in this forum is laden with politics, either politics of self-indulgence, or group hivemind mentality, and the politics of expandin the influence of that said hivemind. Tell me what's new again?

And yet again. Do you even know me? Who ARE people like 'me'?
And you know that I don't because? And you know I 'hatch endless political skews' because?

I did get you attention now did i? Then those two lines of sentences has served their purpose. They arent necessarily true, but they get you in here to response. Mission accomplished.
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It is pretty obvious that you are unable to have a civil discussion with a divergence of opinions without resorting to an infantile need to name-call and to assume based on a shallow intepretation of what have been posted.

What freaking name-calling!??!? Did your estrogen level shot up to counter the testosterone level after watching this movie, making you feel so effeminately sensitive to every word here? Propagandist is NOT a bad word, FCUK, A$$HOLE and the likes are. If you feel so bad about being called a propagandist, it must have related to the nature of the word "propagandist" and what it meant to you. Save this excessive sensitivities to the womenfolk.

As a 'peace-loving people', do you not find that neutrality is needed? Should you have any problems comprehending my earlier post, may I suggest that you read it again with an open mind - and not one tainted with your own personal bias.

I suggest you read it again too. Those paragraph, in LAYMAN term, (since your sensitive side is assuming things again) are meant to show that even though Malaysians are peace-loving, even something as fickle as outside politics like American/Iraq/IRan crap still manage to divide us. Malaysians are peace-loving, no? Are you refuting that now? Is that why you think im name-calling when calling you a propagandist now? Jeeez, lay off the kacip fatimah, will ya!

I specifically said to YOU that you will doubtlessly disagree and that you will attempt to reply precisely because of the kind of response that was forthcoming - I have read your other posts in this forum. If I was as confident about the others' inability to hold a civil discussion, I would have addressed it to everyone - which I didn't. Nor did I feel that no one else would post replies to my post.

Glad to know my paparazzis still alive and well to this day. I have kept list of those who follow my every move around the forum and sniff at every word i typed in here. Including those who laugh infantily at even the most minute grammatical mistake i make in here.

Unlike you, I do not feel the need to lambast every single reply that are polar opposites of mine, so please do note that I have mostly chosen to question/reply you on statements that have been directed towards me at a personal level, which I feel should have been unnecessary, given your self-admitted bias towards 'peace'.

Errr, hello.....you just did that thing you just typed there. See if you dont lambast every post of mine after this, then you can claim that. The nature of a discussion/debate on a forum is that one will respond to another post, otherwise it's a one-sided conversation. Lambasting is too harsh a word, but then, im not surprised, judging from your state of mind, you are too sensitive for your own good. And oh, pot calling kettle black? Assumption seems to point to that on that last word of yours. "Peace"? As far as im concerned i never claimed im peaceful, you did. The only "peace" i related to is the relace-loving nature of Malaysians that i meant in the previous post. It pays to confirm one's meaning rather than assuming, which you claimed i did profusely in here, but instead i see you did even more so yourself!

Once again, have a nice day.
You have a nice day too.

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Mar 15 2007, 06:40 PM

Thanks Hamster, but the forum has been unkind to me as well. Wouldnt want to accept multiple quotes. Plus, im in a hurry, need to pack up things to work. .......you're enjoying this, arent you? <--------meant for Hamster, before someone else start feeling sensitive and think its meant for him.

SPARTAN UNITE! Politicians stay off!

This post has been edited by stringfellow: Mar 15 2007, 06:27 PM