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sheahann
post Mar 24 2017, 08:49 AM

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QUOTE(eddievh @ Mar 23 2017, 09:57 PM)
Ba kah ni is valve stem seal la, that consider top overhaul la.
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will change thAT thing soon.. i expect below RM200 smile.gif
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post Mar 24 2017, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(sheahann @ Mar 24 2017, 08:49 AM)
will change thAT thing soon.. i expect below RM200 smile.gif
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What's your car mileage and what car are you driving ? If your car mileage is not too high top overhaul will solve oil consumption problem but if it's too high mileage sometimes need to do full overhaul.
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QUOTE(eddievh @ Mar 24 2017, 10:04 AM)
What's your car mileage and what car are you driving ? If your car mileage is not too high top overhaul will solve oil consumption problem but if it's too high mileage sometimes need to do full overhaul.
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post Mar 24 2017, 12:04 PM

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Last time my xtrail 2.5 2003 with 240K km use Total 15W-50, after 2000km of drive, a quarter of oil gone. Then next oil change switch to Shell HX3 20W-50, after 4000km drive oil just drop a little bit only.
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QUOTE(eddievh @ Mar 23 2017, 09:57 PM)
Ba kah ni is valve stem seal la, that consider top overhaul la.
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nowadays they no need to do so much job ady ..
got device to clamp the spring then can access to change liao .
my workshop dont call that top overhaul .. hahaha

in KL i ask everyone say need to overhaul.. starting price is RM400 and if got other rosak need add more ..
nowadays i tried to avoid repair car in KL .. semua try to potong leher wan .
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post Mar 24 2017, 04:48 PM

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My 1.5 wira vdo 2005 is using Castrol 5w-30 Fully synthetic

No overhaul done yet, mileage 155k
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post Mar 24 2017, 06:50 PM

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my saga 1985 using castrol magnatech semi
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post Mar 24 2017, 07:23 PM

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QUOTE(al_madd @ Mar 24 2017, 06:50 PM)
my saga 1985 using castrol magnatech semi
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old saga recommneded oil is 20w50 , right ? I saw one 1991 saga stated 20w50
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post Mar 24 2017, 09:33 PM

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Engine wear already happen. No point u use more expensive or better oil. It is waste of money. You will keep burning those 10-15/40 oils no matter how expensive it is. Its either u keep using the current 20/50 and live with it being under powered or go for overhaul. White smoke usually means piston rings are done already.
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QUOTE(pw8799 @ Mar 24 2017, 07:23 PM)
old saga recommneded oil is 20w50 , right ? I saw one 1991 saga stated 20w50
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if not mistaken xw40...but since i get it from my father since 4 years ago...only use semi syn caltex/shell w40...so far is okay...

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post Mar 24 2017, 11:37 PM

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For 2 or 3 decade-old cars I usually just hantam cheapo 20/50 and just live with the underpowered-ness
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post Mar 25 2017, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 24 2017, 09:33 PM)
Engine wear already happen. No point u use more expensive or better oil. It is waste of money. You will keep burning those 10-15/40 oils no matter how expensive it is. Its either u keep using the current 20/50 and live with it being under powered or go for overhaul. White smoke usually means piston rings are done already.
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No colour smoke noticed...
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QUOTE(pw8799 @ Mar 25 2017, 07:12 AM)
No colour smoke noticed...
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If no smoke, that means you should have a leak. Engine oil does no dissapear without a trace. Its either burnt up or leaking.
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QUOTE(pw8799 @ Mar 25 2017, 07:12 AM)
No colour smoke noticed...
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Check for leaks, droplets of leaks daily will result in substantial loss of EO in time. Either that or get someone to watch the exhaust when u throttle at idle. Some cases where the burning of EO is minimal, smoke only detected during acceleration. However one clear sign is the smell of burnt EO which is very obvious even though smoke may not be visible.

QUOTE(netmatrix @ Mar 25 2017, 09:08 AM)
If no smoke, that means you should have a leak. Engine oil does no dissapear without a trace. Its either burnt up or leaking.
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Agreed.
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post Mar 25 2017, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(pw8799 @ Mar 25 2017, 07:12 AM)
No colour smoke noticed...
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Is your exhaust tip wet or just black & dry ?

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post Apr 15 2017, 08:56 PM

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QUOTE(eddievh @ Mar 23 2017, 09:57 PM)
Ba kah ni is valve stem seal la, that consider top overhaul la.
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Today I back hometown fix ady. 10am send car in, 6pm only go pick up.

1) Valve seal 1set + labour Rm180
2) Valve cover gasket Rm22
3) Plug Seal Rm24
4) my gear in P sometime cannot start. Need goyang the stick only can start. So service the gear switch Rm30
4) Clean throttle body free

Total RM256

I wondering if in KL will Kena chop how much. All tell me must top overhaul and price start at 600 onwards just to change the Valve seal

This post has been edited by sheahann: Apr 15 2017, 08:57 PM
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post Apr 16 2017, 10:46 AM

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My old waja 2003, odometer 298k km. Keep using fully Synthetic 5w-40 or 5w-30 from day one.

No oil eat syntoms whatsoever.
Keep change the oil at 12-13k km per interval. Hardly rev the engine on daily use, it known for underpower 4G18 auto.

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post Apr 16 2017, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(sheahann @ Apr 15 2017, 08:56 PM)
Today I back hometown fix ady. 10am send car in, 6pm only go pick up.

1) Valve seal 1set + labour Rm180
2) Valve cover gasket Rm22
3) Plug Seal Rm24
4) my gear in P sometime cannot start. Need goyang the stick only can start. So service the gear switch Rm30
4) Clean throttle body free

Total RM256

I wondering if in KL will Kena chop how much. All tell me must top overhaul and price start at 600 onwards just to change the Valve seal
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Real honest mechanic, you have. thumbup.gif

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post Apr 16 2017, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Apr 16 2017, 10:46 AM)
My old waja 2003, odometer 298k km. Keep using fully Synthetic 5w-40 or 5w-30 from day one.

No oil eat syntoms whatsoever.
Keep change the oil at 12-13k km per interval. Hardly rev the engine on daily use, it known for underpower 4G18 auto.
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Good on you.
I'm currently pushing semisyn Total Energy 10W40 beyond 15K km and going...... basing on Blotter Spot Test results. tongue.gif

Edit:https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/4192241

This post has been edited by zeng: Apr 16 2017, 01:25 PM

 

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