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 Nikon D40x announced 06 03 07, Available in Malaysia now !!

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post Mar 7 2007, 10:34 PM

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But the salesman has a point.

The D40 is a TRUE budget camera.

Cannot autofocus with the RM3xx Nikkor 50mm F1.8D (the lens EVERY Nikon user has.)

The D40 is meant to be a dSLR when you're really broke. You will join others in selling this off after 3 months (or when you have money) when you discover you can't use the great Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macro or Nikkor 50mm F1.8D on autofocus. In other words, the D40 is handicapped in the dark.

If you ask me, they should stop trying to cash in on the n00bs who go "WAH 10 megapixels!" and work on a AF-S version of the Nikkor 50mm F1.8D.
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this model is for ppl who use kit lens onli...
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post Mar 7 2007, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Mar 7 2007, 09:34 AM)
But the salesman has a point.

The D40 is a TRUE budget camera.

Cannot autofocus with the RM3xx Nikkor 50mm F1.8D (the lens EVERY Nikon user has.)

The D40 is meant to be a dSLR when you're really broke. You will join others in selling this off after 3 months (or when you have money) when you discover you can't use the great Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macro or Nikkor 50mm F1.8D on autofocus. In other words, the D40 is handicapped in the dark.

If you ask me, they should stop trying to cash in on the n00bs who go "WAH 10 megapixels!" and work on a AF-S version of the Nikkor 50mm F1.8D.
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Those n00bs will fund the development of better cameras higher up in the range. So i say take their monies smile.gif

I'm pretty sure they'll move their primes to AF-S sooner or later...
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post Mar 7 2007, 11:29 PM

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Differences compared to the D40
10 megapixel sensor
Lower base sensitivity (ISO 100 vs ISO 200)
Auto ISO option includes ISO 200
Faster continuous shooting (3 fps vs. 2.5 fps)*


10 MP and 6MP has no difference in image quality.
"Slightly higher resolution: D40x images are 3,872 pixels wide versus 3,008 pixels wide in the D40. [paying extra USD 200 for 800 pixels wide?]

So what? Like square footage, megapixels is multiplying image height times image width, so this minor increase looks impressive when multiplied out to 10 MP from the D40's 6MP.

This is only significant if you're printing larger than 13 x 19" (30 x 50 cm) and larger, and even then, not very significant. I've seen 4 x 5 foot prints made from the 6MP D50 which looked spectacular; it's all about knowing what you're doing to get a sharp image." -kenrockwell.com-

lower ISO = a step backward. the reason for ISO 100 is because a 10MP sensor gets noisier at ISO 200.

What Nikon doesn't tell you: "Slower 1/200 flash sync, down from the excellent 1/500 of the D40. This reduces flash range outdoors, makes it difficult to get sharp flash shots of sports action, and reduces battery life with flash." -kenrockwell.com-


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But the salesman has a point.

The D40 is a TRUE budget camera.

Cannot autofocus with the RM3xx Nikkor 50mm F1.8D (the lens EVERY Nikon user has.)

The D40 is meant to be a dSLR when you're really broke. You will join others in selling this off after 3 months (or when you have money) when you discover you can't use the great Tamron 90mm F2.8 Macro or Nikkor 50mm F1.8D on autofocus. In other words, the D40 is handicapped in the dark.

If you ask me, they should stop trying to cash in on the n00bs who go "WAH 10 megapixels!" and work on a AF-S version of the Nikkor 50mm F1.8D.
Truly great lens = Nikkor 18-200 VR, and it works with the D40 excellently.

This post has been edited by polkiuj: Mar 7 2007, 11:32 PM
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post Mar 7 2007, 11:39 PM

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the way i see it, ppl go for D40 bcoz they choose or rather compromised with wat D40 offer (price..features...) , if this is the case , why bother D40x has something extra/better . same noise we will hear if they announce D60 or D45...D55...D50s...D70x...D80z....

too much of the " should have...." or "Cha Zhai..."..

just my 2cents. don't boom me.
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post Mar 7 2007, 11:50 PM

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to put it bluntly: D40x is to compete directly with the Canon Digital Rebel XTi (EOS 400D) in terms of specifications.

"Nikon probably added these needless pixels to the D40x to compete with the Canon Rebel XTi on banner specifications that impress innocent people, but do nothing to improve the pictures or usability. Camera performance has little to nothing to do with megapixels. I also own a Canon Rebel XTi, and I hate using it compared to my D40."
-kenrockwell.com-

D40 for ppl who knows what they are doing.

D40x for ppl who don't. (and don't mind paying more)

D40 does exactly what D40x does for real life photography. D40 probably does better! A higher res sensor is noisier, hence ISO 100 is introduced. U lose 1/500 flash sync speed(and get a 1/200). U get 3FPS(from 2.5) but u'll probably not notice since if u shoot sports u'll be using Canon.

Note: i'm comparing these only, not D200 or bla bla bla.
Note2: This is all speculation until a unit is properly tested. =)

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true enough. well , soon all photography magazines will give their comments and there is always a way for nikon to sell IT exclusively.


Added on March 8, 2007, 12:40 amfrom Nikon.com.my :

While maintaining the compact size and portability of the D40 camera body, the D40X produces even more outstanding, detailed pictures thanks to its 10.2-megapixel CCD and cutting-edge digital technologies. Its resolution power makes it easy for users to print up very large sizes or crop aggressively without losing any fine details.

The D40X is loaded with everything you need for truly amazing images: a 10.2-megapixel CCD, Nikon's exclusive 3D Color Matrix Metering II, an improved Image Processing Engine and superb Auto White Balnce. Together with a world-famous Nikkor lens, these features combine to ensure perfect exposure, refined details and natural, vivid colors.


Added on March 8, 2007, 12:40 amType of Camera Single-lens reflex digital camera
Effective Pixels 10.2 million
Image Sensor RGB CCD, 23.6 x 15.8 mm; total pixels: 10.75 million, Nikon DX format
Image Size (Pixels) 3,872 x 2,592 [L], 2,896 x 1,944 [M], 1,936 x 1,296 [S]
Sensitivity 100 to 1,600 in steps of 1 EV with additional setting one step over 1600
File Format Compressed NEF (RAW): 12-bit compression, JPEG: JPEG baseline compliant
File System Exif 2.21, Compliant DCF 2.0 and DPOF
Storage Media SD memory card, SDHC compliant
Shooting Modes 1) Single frame shooting mode, 2) Continuous shooting mode: approx. 3 frames per second, 3) Self-timer mode, 4) Delayed remote mode: 2 s. delay, 5) Quick-response remote mode
White Balance Auto (TTL white-balance with 420-pixel RGB sensor), six manual modes with fine-tuning and preset white balance
LCD Monitor Size 2.5-in.
LCD Monitor 230,000-dot, low-temperature polysilicon TFT LCD with brightness adjustment
Playback Function 1) 1 frame; 2) Thumbnail (4 or 9 segments); 3) Magnifying playback; 4) Slide show; 5) Histogram indication; 6) Highlight point display; 7) Auto image rotation
Delete Function 1) Card format; 2) All frames delete; 3) Selected frames delete
I/O Terminal Can be selected from NTSC and PAL
Interface USB 2.0 (High-speed): Mass Storage and MTP/PTP selectable
Picture Angle Equivalent in 35mm [135] format is approx. 1.5 times lens focal length
ViewFinder Type Fixed-eyelevel penta-Dach mirror type; built-in diopter adjustment (-1.7 to +0.5m-1)
Eyepoint 18mm (-1.0 m-1)
Focusing Screen Type B BriteView Clear Matte screen Mark V with superimposed focus brackets
Viewfinder Frame Coverage/ Magnification Approx. 95% (vertical/horizontal) / Approx. 0.8x with 50mm lens at infinity; -1.0 m-1
Autofocus TTL phase detection by Nikon Multi-CAM530 autofocus module with AF-assist (range approximately 0.5-3.0m/1ft. 8in.-9ft. 10in.); Detection range: -1 to +19 EV (ISO 100 at 20°C/68°F)
Focus Modes 1) Autofocus (AF): Instant single-servo AF (AF-S); continuous servo AF (AF-C); auto AF-S/AF-C selection (AF-A); predictive focus tracking automatically activated according to subject status, 2) Manual focus (M)
Focus Lock Focus can be locked by pressing shutter-release button halfway (single-servo AF) or by pressing AE-L/AF-L button
Exposure Metering System TTL full-aperture exposure metering system 1) 3D Color Matrix Metering II (type G and D lenses); Color Matrix Metering II (other CPU lenses); metering performed by 420-segment RGB sensor; 2) Center-weighted: Weight of 75% given to 8mm circle in center of frame; 3) Spot: Meters 3.5mm circle (about 2.5% of frame) centered on active focus area
Exposure Metering Range 1) 0 to 20 EV (3D Color Matrix or center-weighted metering), 2) 2 to 20 EV (spot metering)
Exposure Control Digital Vari-program (Auto, Auto [Flash Off], Portrait, Landscape, Child, Sports, Close Up, Night Portrait), Programmed Auto (P) with flexible program; Shutter-Priority Auto (S); Aperture Priority Auto (A); Manual (M)
Auto Exposure Lock Exposure locked at detected value with AE-L/AF-L button
Auto Exposure Bracketing ±5 EV in increments of 1/3 EV
Maximum Shutter 1/4000
Minimum Shutter 30
Shutter Electronically controlled vertical-travel focal plane shutter, 30 to 1/4000 s. in steps of 1/3 EV, bulb
Sync Contact X-contact only; flash synchronization at up to 1/200 s.
Flash Control 1) TTL: TTL flash control by 420-pixel RGB sensor. i-TTL balanced fill-flash for digital SLR and standard i-TTL fill-flash for digital SLR available when CPU lens is used with built-in flash, SB-800, SB-600, and SB400, 2) Auto aperture: Available with SB-800 with CPU lens, 3) Non-TTL Auto: Available with Speedlights such as SB-800, 80DX, 80DX, 28DX, 28, 27, and 22s , 4) Range-priority manual available with SB-800
Flash Sync Modes AUTO, Portrait, Child, Close Up: Auto, auto with red-eye reduction; fill-flash and red-eye reduction available with optional Speedlight; Night portrait mode: Auto, auto slow sync, auto slow sync with red-eye reduction; slow sync and slow sync with red-eye reduction available with optional Speedlight; Landscape, Sport mode: Fill-flash and red-eye reduction available with optional Speedlight; P, A: Fill flash, rear-curtain with slow sync, slow sync, slow sync with red-eye reduction, red-eye reduction; S, M: Fill flash, rear-curtain sync, red-eye reduction
Accessory Shoe Standard ISO hot-shoe contact with sync, signal, and ground contacts and safety lock
Self-Timer Electronically controlled timer with duration of 2, 5, 10 or 20 s.
Remote Control Via Wireless Remote Control ML-L3 (optional)
Supported Languages Total of 15 languages: German, English, Spanish, Finnish, French, Italian, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese, Russian, Swedish, Traditional Chinese, Simplified Chinese, Japanese, and Korean
Power Requirements Rechargeable Li-ion Battery EN-EL9
Battery Life Up to 520 shots on a fully-charged battery
Tripod Socket 1/4 in. (ISO1222)
Dimensions Approx. 126 x 64 x 94mm (5.0 x 2.5 x 3.7 in.)
Weight (without batteries) Approx. 495g (1lb. 1oz.) without battery, memory card or body cap
Supplied Accessories (may differ by country or area) Rechargeable Li-ion Battery EN-EL9, Quick Charger MH-23, USB Cable UC-E4, PictureProject, Rubber Eyecup DK-16, Camera Strap, Body Cap BF-1A, Eyepiece Cap DK-5, Accessory Shoe Cap BS-1


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post Mar 8 2007, 09:35 AM

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from what i see here... not many people know what they are talking about.
it's all cut and paste.

i would prefer it if it's your own opinion rather than some fancy reviewer's.

4x5 foot banner using a 6MP camera and it looks good? that means you haven't seen a really good 4x5 foot banner before and i pity you. (wonder why professionals use the large formats or the 40MP cameras?)
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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 8 2007, 09:35 AM)
from what i see here... not many people know what they are talking about.
it's all cut and paste.

i would prefer it if it's your own opinion rather than some fancy reviewer's.

4x5 foot banner using a 6MP camera and it looks good? that means you haven't seen a really good 4x5 foot banner before and i pity you. (wonder why professionals use the large formats or the 40MP cameras?)
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Hasselblad! Mamiya! flex.gif laugh.gif

btw, im kinda interested in this cam, wondering whether it sells body only biggrin.gif

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post Mar 8 2007, 10:25 AM

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QUOTE(ifer @ Mar 8 2007, 09:35 AM)
from what i see here... not many people know what they are talking about.
it's all cut and paste.

i would prefer it if it's your own opinion rather than some fancy reviewer's.

4x5 foot banner using a 6MP camera and it looks good? that means you haven't seen a really good 4x5 foot banner before and i pity you. (wonder why professionals use the large formats or the 40MP cameras?)
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Can't agree more... thumbup.gif
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post Mar 8 2007, 10:49 AM

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LOL! almost bought a D40 last week.. luckily was patient enough..
It's either I buy a D40(hope price drops) or D40x hehe...
Anyone care to share their views? I am using the old canon A-1 SLR, so not familiar with DSLR yet. Considering D80 too, please advice. Budget below 4k.
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then which model is for a better noob user ? D50? thats old ...
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post Mar 8 2007, 11:04 AM

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end of month and get D40X
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post Mar 8 2007, 11:05 AM

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sure or not ... i heard D40 got lens not suit prob ... i wont go for just 10.1 megapixels ...

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then get D80 or D70s
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Mar 8 2007, 11:08 AM)
then get D80 or D70s
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how much for that?
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post Mar 8 2007, 12:39 PM

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It would be rather n00b to say that because a model is newer, it is better.

Just like when you carry a dSLR around, and someone asks "how many megapixels is that?" and you immediately have an impression of the person's camera knowledge.

I'd rather have the D50's AF screw focus or a second hand D70 than the D40's 2.5" screen. Second hand D70 can be got for RM2000.

But if you insist on budget and firsthand (and Nikon), get a D40. You may or may not find the lens limitation soon enough and want to upgrade; then you'd be glad you didn't pay more for the D40x.

If you're on a budget but don't mind other brands, the Canon 350D is a steal, and the Olympus E500 with twin lenses is great (which should drop even more with the CCD-shift+Live View-enabled E410 and E510 coming out soon).
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QUOTE(bbtat @ Mar 7 2007, 01:39 PM)
brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif  why for sure cheaper?
but if just buy D40 yesterday, and see D40X selling in coming 2 weeks.. sure boh song lor..  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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It will eventually become cheaper of course. After few weeks of selling you will see some shops start throwing price around already, those who wanna go get the D40x can start doing they survey today brows.gif

D40 buyers sure abit boh song one ... they can say "I won't go as low as ISO100" or "I dun need 10MP". Look, for Rm600+ more you can get a 10MP Nikon camera today, or JUMP to Canon ... the EOS 400D with DIGIC II and can use ALL Canon lenses brows.gif
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QUOTE(ac98 @ Mar 8 2007, 03:48 PM)
D40 buyers sure abit boh song one ... they can say "I won't go as low as ISO100" or "I dun need 10MP". Look, for Rm600+ more you can get a 10MP Nikon camera today, or JUMP to Canon ... the EOS 400D with DIGIC II and can use ALL Canon lenses brows.gif
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QUOTE(ikanayam @ Mar 7 2007, 02:02 PM)
Read people. Read.

RRP of D40 = USD599
RRP of D40x = USD799

It's not a D40 replacement. And just in case the price wasn't clear enough, taken from the very first link in the thread:
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Fine ... it's Nikon's own way of saying "Oops ... so here's the new model we're talking about and what you guys HOPED to be in the D40 - the all new D40x!!"

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