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post Mar 23 2017, 11:03 AM

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ISIS bastards

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 23 2017, 10:42 AM)
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MMEA already upgraded as Malaysia Coast Guardthumbup.gif
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For some time now, and for the very logical reason that "stop ship, this is MMEA" is not as universally translatable or to the point as "stop ship, this is Malaysia Coast Guard"
QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 23 2017, 10:49 AM)
All shipbulider will experiment on hull design. This is where most of the RND is done.
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also where the bulk of design costs kick in.

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post Mar 24 2017, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Mar 24 2017, 07:46 PM)
NZ Army Upgraded MAN Medium and Heavy Operational Vehicles (MHOV).


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post Mar 25 2017, 12:24 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 24 2017, 10:50 PM)
thats actually a pretty standard thing even today
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I believe most of the fully upgraded US Humvees in Iraq have electric turrets

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post Mar 25 2017, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 25 2017, 01:19 AM)
cuz they have to if not it would be near impossible to bring it around with hand crank alone
their turret nowadays is more heavier and protected than even some apc open turret
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Certainly more than our poor Igla operator laugh.gif

Btw since when we have 40mm AGL blink.gif

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post Mar 25 2017, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Mar 25 2017, 04:26 PM)
is mig29 have a better combat radius than f16 or gripen(without external tank)?
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Radius of Msian Mig29 = 500 to 1300 km?
Radius of Msian F16 and Gripen = 0
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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 12:11 PM)
True. Their only consent is any naval force briching Australia defence. Thats the reason they collaborate with australia and work together on the Anzac frigate.
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NZ and Aust have no choice but to depend on each other to cover their corner of the world, despite whatever their more pro-independent politikus like to think
QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 25 2017, 01:33 PM)
Technical the hawk 208 was suppose to be front line figbter back then. But with new multirole aircraft its use is obsolete. Any aircraft is good to be use in Sabah and Sarawak. Even in the Lahad Datu incident the F/A18 joint in the operation. What Sarawak/Sabah airspace lag is a fast multirole fighter to do interception. The TUDM learnt the hardway with MiG29 doing interception duties. To me they should sell the mig. Get Typhoon. 18 plane of tranche 3 and get tranche 2 from Saudi if they want to sell them upgrade to tranche 3. Place one squadron in East malaysia and one in West malaysia. Get another squadron of MKM and place in East. Get second hand FA18 from kuwait or get 16 fA18E/F split them into 2, so you good a good balance. Next trainer scrap the mb339 and hawk and get m346. For turbo prop trainer pc7mk 2 is ok.
Why this mix? Easy one scantion/embargo. Two, at any point of time if and aircraft is grounded another can fly. 3. Each aircraft got it pro and con so. Use the best for a mission. For save fuel from flying from east to west and vic versa.
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>4 squadrons of fast jets
>Replace entire LIFT/2nd line fleet
Why not another T80U armour regiment and some KDX Aegis destroyers while you're at it rolleyes.gif

Hawk 208 with AAMs have been suggested to help cover UK QRA requirement, but its true that RAF opted to bring back 2 squadron of Typhoon T1 instead - best choice really. For us, Hawk 208 is currently quite useful for potential Pinoy-hunting, whether its Suluks or MILFs.

QUOTE(yinchet @ Mar 25 2017, 02:19 PM)
Mkm is doing fine.
Having russian jet biggest worries is about getting those spare parts but it seem likes malaysia is doing well solving these issues.
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How?
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post Mar 25 2017, 07:01 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 25 2017, 05:51 PM)
Russia stilll agree to give us parts and servicing?
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post Mar 25 2017, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 25 2017, 07:10 PM)
ada $$$ ada parts n serbis
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Are we invited to your fleet review BTW?
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post Mar 25 2017, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Mar 25 2017, 07:38 PM)
if not we wont be signing a service deal with them for our MKM maintenance

part from india have some quality issues or so i was told. Then we opt to stock pile parts sourced direct from russia and build service center for the MKM. Partly also to improve the MKM readiness

Lesson learn from MiG29 exp
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post Mar 25 2017, 11:40 PM

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Indian AWACS! laugh.gif
Adding yindian rojak to the rojak fleet... bolehkah hmm.gif laugh.gif

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/...30-aewc-434146/


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post Mar 26 2017, 11:13 PM

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Ooooo some commonality in our fleet at last!

Jilat Kuwaitis tho... ah well our politikus very good at it rolleyes.gif

QUOTE(kerolzarmyfanboy @ Mar 26 2017, 11:06 PM)
btw the US M109 SPH offer dead already right?
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no marny
And yes what marny we got, should spend on ships and jets
Kuwait deal not always got rclxms.gif
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post Mar 27 2017, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 27 2017, 02:15 PM)
Why tudm insist on twin jet? Our neighbours all have a mix of twin and single jet

High end twin jet like f15/sukhoi and mid range single engine f16/gripen
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Our High-Low mix is supposed to be Sukhoi/Mig/Hornet and Hawk sweat.gif

Twin jet safeguards against loss of the whole jet and pilot in case of single engine malfunction when flying over the sea, and since TUDM in almost any mission is going to be flying over some sea, its a good idea...
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post Mar 28 2017, 03:26 PM

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Oooo
Best case... sudah bincang ngan orang lain
Worst case... takde wang laugh.gif

http://www.freemalaysiatoday.com/category/...uy-rafale-jets/
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post Mar 28 2017, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Mar 28 2017, 01:58 PM)
unclear how much we will pay for the hornets dirt cheap or maybe free but we have to pay for the upgrade

The problem is upgrading the hornet to RMAF standard right now is prices
the cost of upgrading the hornet swallow almost all the FMS funding

in the future maybe, but if in near future we might have to say goodbye to the current MMRCA program
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Non-upgraded Hornet will have reduced/no commonality with RMAF Hornets, or absolutely tabuli pakai?

If the former, should just bite the bullet, at least got more airframes... if latter, then that IS a problem.
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post Mar 28 2017, 08:15 PM

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QUOTE(Lumiaaa @ Mar 28 2017, 06:44 PM)
Time to scrap idea of those high end fighter

Maintain, upgrade the su30mkm and hornets. I think these are already capable
Retire all mig, hawlks and ancient f5 replace with KAI FA-50 / TA-50/gripen

maintain just 3 variant of jet

Su30mkm
F18
TA-50/gripen

Our navy wake up from their wet dream, with sensible 15 to 5 plan

When will air force wake up
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At least 3 FULL squadrons of fast jets are a decent requirement for Msia - preferably Su-30MKM and Superhornet, if not then SU-30MKM, F18s and Typhoon/Rafale

Backed up by 2nd line Hawk 208 equipped for training, precision bombing and anti-air - with secondary uses we can justify buying more so can train more pilots

Need twin jet engine as safety - long run its worth it as insurance against losing jet and pilot, since we don't have much of either
QUOTE(IReallyNeed Answers @ Mar 28 2017, 07:44 PM)
Or if trumps allows it,

F22 Raptors 😝😝
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Trump nearly included Msia in his ban and now you asking for F22! when their own airforce is starving for F22!
QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 28 2017, 07:10 PM)
Malaysia should have capability to buy the asset now. The main problem is politics. With people bad mouthing every single buy, like saying someone pocketing money and buying a submarine that cannot swim. It going to be hard and political no-no if the malaysian election is coming. So most probably any announcement will be after election. If TUDM to choose a western MRSS ship, politician will bring in question of why don't buy from this maker or that, its cheaper. They done care of the spec. It happen the the EC725 buy.
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Can think of LOADS of better places to spend money in current economic conditions... but the main issue is effective spend not how much is budgeted... of course a certain amount always disappears into thin air

Spec is always kept hush hush because "reasons" but also because its too easy to compare with other publicly available cost data and deduce how much is being pocketed

Marhalim himself said, for the amount paid for Gempita the TDM itself was expecting double the number of vehicles doh.gif
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post Mar 29 2017, 04:40 PM

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QUOTE(mumbly297 @ Mar 29 2017, 12:35 AM)
Guys what actual RELA do in malaysian security context? I have ask most if my malaysian relatives but none can give an a good answer. Went to KL and Penang for wedding ceremony and so them around but with no weapons.
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Personal, totally biased observation: glorified security guard. And I don't mean that in a derogatory manner, to me its kinda pitiful really. RELA isn't as well administrated as army or police.

So RELA members whom I encounter seems to be school dropout kids, fat retirees, or people who can't qualify for army or police so they end up joining RELA to try and gain a measure of respectability. Because for some reason some communities practically look down on "soft" jobs like office manager etc. but have overwhelming respect for army/police.

^ Probably an unpopular opinion... here...
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post Mar 29 2017, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Mar 29 2017, 04:27 PM)
just ask your opinion, IF a local film company get budget to make a military film target on "Sabah Standoff story“ offcouse involved our arm personal and asset in film (pay for this cost), many local artist ,  do you all think gov/mindef will approval ? will film too sensitive ?
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Got to clear it with Duterte first... he may not like the pinoy aspect brows.gif

Its a good idea actually, IF well managed in order to increase public awareness. For example Ah Boys To Men is pure 100% 24 carat propaganda, but it seems to be well received even in Msia rolleyes.gif

but are our local film makers really up to telling the story in a subtle, sensitive and yet cinematically-entertaining manner? and more importantly, will ATM/FINAS/politikus green light the result, or meddle and demand "more positive portrayal of our Armed Forces" which eventually make the film look like pure 100% 24 carat propaganda...?

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post Mar 30 2017, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Mar 30 2017, 12:42 PM)
Probably not. Nowadays small, fast jets very very hard to shoot down using MANPADS, especially not the state-of-the-art older ones like SA-7 or Stinger.

But then again, this is the Philippines we're talking about. laugh.gif
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Tertembak when landing ke, or cruising in "safe" zone

Anyway pinoys are not fighting ISIS here, it seems the heaviest weapons the pinoy terrs have is mortars, do they even have RPGs?
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post Mar 30 2017, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 30 2017, 07:39 PM)
yup. american made, 20% more freedom than traditional commie ones

they also have smaw
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But I was asking about the MILF/JI pinoy terrorists
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post Mar 30 2017, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 30 2017, 07:44 PM)

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blink.gif RPG-2s... wonder how they fare against Adnans and KIFVs? maybe penetrate but won't kill personnel inside... does happen
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post Mar 31 2017, 12:12 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Mar 30 2017, 09:38 PM)
there's no way those terroriz had access to hesh rounds
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Mar 30 2017, 09:45 PM)
adnan & kifv got a basic spaced armour protection so the main blast is away from the vehicle main body
so prolly at most it can inflict some degree of injuries but not fatal..
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RPG-2 only has HEAT rounds anyway... but Moros also have small numbers of RPG-7

Always thought we should have like a couple battalion worth of add-on armour and RPG cage kits, just in case... RPGs not that hard to obtain

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