Hi. I'm losing grip while doing deadlift. Not using alternate grip as I dun feel comfortable with it. Now having pain at my elbows(golfer's elbow).
Will using strap be a good solution?
deadlift forearm pain
deadlift forearm pain
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Mar 16 2017, 12:30 PM, updated 9y ago
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Hi. I'm losing grip while doing deadlift. Not using alternate grip as I dun feel comfortable with it. Now having pain at my elbows(golfer's elbow).
Will using strap be a good solution? |
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Mar 16 2017, 01:34 PM
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Got any injury history with your elbow before?
Strap is for your grip. |
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Mar 16 2017, 02:00 PM
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no history of injury.... my pain started when I started losing grip on deadlift.
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Mar 16 2017, 02:40 PM
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Work on your grip and forearm
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Mar 16 2017, 03:22 PM
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Are your palms sweaty? You could consider using chalk
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Mar 16 2017, 03:53 PM
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Mar 16 2017, 04:39 PM
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Are your arms fully extended in the movement? If you bend your arms, you might be straining your biceps which can cause elbow pain like you're describing. Be careful with this. When you get up to much heavier weights, you run the risk of a bicep tear. Flex your triceps when initiating the movement.
If you won't use mixed grip, use hook grip. If you can't stand hook grip, you can use double overhand like you're currently doing till your grip fails, after which you can use straps. You can do supplementary grip work later on. |
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Mar 16 2017, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 16 2017, 04:39 PM) Are your arms fully extended in the movement? If you bend your arms, you might be straining your biceps which can cause elbow pain like you're describing. Be careful with this. When you get up to much heavier weights, you run the risk of a bicep tear. Flex your triceps when initiating the movement. Nope.... pain is due to grip... bicep no pain.... currently i can't carry heavier coz losing grip.... sometimes bar may slip till my finger tips..... i think that's probably when i hurt myself. Shall go buy straps tomorrow and try. If you won't use mixed grip, use hook grip. If you can't stand hook grip, you can use double overhand like you're currently doing till your grip fails, after which you can use straps. You can do supplementary grip work later on. Hook grip is a no no for me too!! How u guys do it? So painful...... |
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Mar 16 2017, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Mar 16 2017, 08:32 PM) Nope.... pain is due to grip... bicep no pain.... currently i can't carry heavier coz losing grip.... sometimes bar may slip till my finger tips..... i think that's probably when i hurt myself. Shall go buy straps tomorrow and try. Hook grip ain't for everyone. I can't do it too. Mixed grip for me. Hook grip is a no no for me too!! How u guys do it? So painful...... I still don't get how you can injure your elbow and forearm from the bar slipping though. But anyhow, yeah, straps are a good. Just make sure your grip gets the training they need as well. |
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Mar 16 2017, 11:00 PM
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QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 16 2017, 04:39 PM) Are your arms fully extended in the movement? If you bend your arms, you might be straining your biceps which can cause elbow pain like you're describing. Be careful with this. When you get up to much heavier weights, you run the risk of a bicep tear. Flex your triceps when initiating the movement. I have been using straps forever since I remember. For wprking sets though. Warms ups are still no straps. I found out that...last time I used to hv difficulties with vertain weight no straps...now the se weight without straps it is alright. So you do get mpre powerfil grips over time...with or without straps.If you won't use mixed grip, use hook grip. If you can't stand hook grip, you can use double overhand like you're currently doing till your grip fails, after which you can use straps. You can do supplementary grip work later on. |
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Mar 17 2017, 08:49 AM
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QUOTE(lingleeyen @ Mar 16 2017, 11:00 PM) I have been using straps forever since I remember. For wprking sets though. Warms ups are still no straps. I found out that...last time I used to hv difficulties with vertain weight no straps...now the se weight without straps it is alright. So you do get mpre powerfil grips over time...with or without straps. Yup, I agree. Your grip will improve regardless with straps or not. Pete Rubish is an example of a powerlifter who trains like this. However, your grip will have play catch up when you use straps exclusively. Doing grip work separately is an excellent strategy as well. I know some people who squeeze their grippers during work hours to help pass the time. Some people do extra grip work after their sessions, it usually doesn't take more than 10 minutes.For me personally, I really don't like doing extra work. In my sport, straps aren't allowed, so I've been training exclusively without straps ever since I started, except of really high rep sets. As a result I've never had to train my grip at all, never needed to do extra grip work. It also allows me to gauge what I can actually hold on to come meet day. If I can't hold on to a certain weight, then I know I have no business in attempting it. Only recently my grip gave me some issue when I pulled my new 1RM of 171kg. Below that my grip stays solid and I can stay locked out at the top for a few seconds if I wanted to. |
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Mar 17 2017, 08:58 AM
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It's just a matter of building up strength on yr forearm. Did you just started dl or ?
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Mar 17 2017, 09:25 AM
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Been dl for couple years.... i skipped dl for 1 week but the pain is still there when i resume....
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Mar 17 2017, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 17 2017, 08:49 AM) Yup, I agree. Your grip will improve regardless with straps or not. Pete Rubish is an example of a powerlifter who trains like this. However, your grip will have play catch up when you use straps exclusively. Doing grip work separately is an excellent strategy as well. I know some people who squeeze their grippers during work hours to help pass the time. Some people do extra grip work after their sessions, it usually doesn't take more than 10 minutes. Nice. 140 is the max I have attempted so far with no straps.For me personally, I really don't like doing extra work. In my sport, straps aren't allowed, so I've been training exclusively without straps ever since I started, except of really high rep sets. As a result I've never had to train my grip at all, never needed to do extra grip work. It also allows me to gauge what I can actually hold on to come meet day. If I can't hold on to a certain weight, then I know I have no business in attempting it. Only recently my grip gave me some issue when I pulled my new 1RM of 171kg. Below that my grip stays solid and I can stay locked out at the top for a few seconds if I wanted to. |
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Mar 17 2017, 11:36 AM
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Mar 17 2017, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(Npad @ Mar 17 2017, 11:36 AM) Double overhand or mixed grip? Double overhand, my max is 130kg I think. Tried 140kg before but it slipped right at the knee. Mixed. I actually have not done mixed grip before. Ystd was first. Because I was using straps whenever weight goes more than 120. Ystd js try for fun. Oik...boleh wo. |
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Mar 17 2017, 01:46 PM
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Mar 20 2017, 11:46 AM
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I find incorporating heavy Kroc Rows and Rack Pulls really helped to improve my grip. I used to not being able to deadlift with overhand grip pass 275lbs. After incorporating those two exercises, Im able to go up to 315lbs for 5 reps without using straps or changing to mixed grip.
Hope this helps. Doing forearm isolation exercises only will not help. |
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Mar 21 2017, 08:14 AM
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I can testify the efficacy of heavy Kroc Rows. Amazing exercise for grip, core and back.
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Mar 21 2017, 08:59 AM
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ok... willl check out kroc row....
I bought the the straps and used if for the first time..... tried dl at 90% of my 1rm.... feels good!!! din struggle with grip at all... no pain... |
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