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JasonAubama
post Sep 14 2018, 10:45 AM

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Buddhism’s introduction into China used Taoism Terms and Concepts to convey its ideology & successfully adapted into Chinese Culture, a classical Sinicization 中國化 of which far from Nepalese/Indian early Buddhism.

Taoism tradition emersion in China where the hereditary title was conferred by Emperors until the 63rd Celestial Masters Zhang EnPu 張恩溥.

Taoism must be strictly complied in accordance with China 2018 “Regulations on Religious Affairs 宗教事務條例” and the “Sinicization of Religion 宗教中國化”.

Religious Freedom is specified in Chinese Constitution whereby Adult is allowed to enjoy freedom of Disbelief or belief in any approved religions (Catholicism, Protestantism, Islam, Buddhism & Taoism) to execute core values of Chinese Socialism including doctrines, morality, culture, ideologies and thoughts.

Sad that Religion became a Political Tool to control Human Mind according to China Communist Party CCP ignoring all value of Spiritual Purity.
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post Sep 14 2018, 12:31 PM

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Should I acquire my Taoist Priest Qualification like my dad, I must pledge absolute loyalty to Atheistic CCP, Socialism with China Characteristics & Leadership of Xi JinPing prior to seek approval by China Home Affairs via China Taoism Association 😳

In addition, Public Burning Incense, Hell Notes, Joss Offerings & Taoism Rituals are strictly prohibited. All approved religious activities must be strictly monitored by CCCTV for Safety purpose.

Luckily Taoism allowing eating Pork, drinking Alcohol, Ethical Sex Activity & need not to be Sinicized like Muslim in XinJiang to be Re-Educated, Christianity Symbol demolished in HeNan, Buddhism Leaders involvement in Sex & Corruption Scandals.

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post Sep 14 2018, 04:43 PM

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Nepalese Young Buddha which seems strange to our knowledge.
We have been Sinicized Buddha to Chinese Characteristics.

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post Sep 14 2018, 04:56 PM

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What is wrong in me where my dad willingly to pledge royalty to the Chinese Emperor & the 63rd Celestial Master Zhang EnPu to become a Taoist Priest but I’m very reluctant to pledge absolute royalty to Atheistic CCP, Chinese Socialism, Xi JinPing and a newly Appointed Celestial Master Zhang by Chinese Government???

The accreditation process is identical and is upto my acceptance only as I met all others criteria to be a Taoist Priest???

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post Sep 15 2018, 09:01 AM

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Moving forward, if future Taoism is Atheistic & free from burning Incense, Hell Note, Joss Model, Ritual, Talisman, what could be the Universal Values left behind or Simply Anti-China?

Taoism Values Natural Harmony & we can’t stop China or Sinicization of Taoism.

I’m keen to take advantage of this transition to encourage all of us to contribute our Radical Thoughts in Developing Independent Minds according to Taoism Values!!!

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post Sep 16 2018, 05:02 AM

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Would Taoist practice be still acceptable to the Gods if done according to CCP rules?
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post Sep 16 2018, 05:03 AM

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Actually, I would encourage you to get the accreditation, as I'm not sure if there are any other such accredited persons in Malaysia.
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post Sep 16 2018, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(conxtion @ Sep 16 2018, 05:03 AM)
Actually, I would encourage you to get the accreditation, as I'm not sure if there are any other such accredited persons in Malaysia.
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Few of my peers did at extremely high administrative fees contributed to Atheistic CCP. It is a lucrative commercial activity with Political Motive.

When I look at Socialism Faith against Tibetan Buddhism, XinJiang Muslim, Demolishing Christianity Churches & Islamic Mosques with Arabic Design, soon many Smaller Taoism & Buddhism Temples will be replaced by Luxurious Huge Temples for Tourism & Commercials.
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post Sep 16 2018, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(conxtion @ Sep 16 2018, 05:02 AM)
Would Taoist practice be still acceptable to the Gods if done according to CCP rules?
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I don’t know if God exists, I do respect all spiritual beings.

Judging from Legislation perspective, we are not allowed publicly & even on-line to burn incense, light candle, Hell note, Joss model, Talisman, Ritual, Taoism Teaching and all kind of cultural practices deemed to be superstitious.

Atheistic CCP tightened control over physical body & human mind without spiritual soul.

Sorry, I’m out from China.

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post Sep 16 2018, 10:59 AM

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https://thediplomat.com/2018/06/the-ccps-pl...cize-religions/

No authority is higher than the CCP in religion Sinicization, not sure if God/Deities inclusive?

Taoism origin from Mainland China, it needed Re-Sinicization to conforming Atheistic CCP Rulings. From the Positive point of view, Taoism will be Sinicized & Standardized according to Atheistic CCP’s Socialism Core Values without Soul. This is an Innovative Approach shaping Re-Sinicized Indigenous Taoism by Atheistic Politician Authority without Denomination or Variation.

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post Sep 16 2018, 02:08 PM

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/15/world/as...-monastery.html

The Top Buddhist Monk Shi XueCheng 釋學承方丈 just stepped down after Sex & Corruption Scandal. This is a classical reflection that corrupted mind without soul in Successful Religion Sinicization.

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post Sep 17 2018, 10:01 AM

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In the midst of US-China Trade War, the ruling CCP is functioning not purely as a political party but as a religion with Xi JinPing as the Supreme Spiritual Leader, Religious Policy serving the Gods of CCP. Religion Sinicization must pledge absolute loyalty to Atheistic Xi’s rule, ideology and personality cult. In the process, Paradox & Bending Dogma is highly expected inline with China’s Socialism Core Values.

I chose to believe every living being has a soul even though not proven scientifically & not sure for Artificial Intelligent AI where the US-China underlying battlefield. Regardless of Taoism Sinicization development, I’m who I am with crystal clear minded to continue seeking Tao values that beneficial to mankind.

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post Sep 17 2018, 11:05 PM

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From an Engineering Technician to a Global Corporate Strategist to a mainstream Taoist Priest, my journey of meaningful life in progress beyond Religion.

China has targeted a leadership position in the key technologies and industries of the future, from artificial intelligence to biotech and robotics.

From “the Belt-Road Initiative 一帶一路”, “2018 Religion Sinicization 宗教中國化”, “Community of Shared Human Destiny 人類命運共同體” to “Made in China 2025 中國製造2025”, what a wonderful synchronize initiative towards supremacy leadership.

I would support the Civilization Evolution for Ethical Mankind development in Natural Course. However, I saw Economic Colonization to Export China Excess Capacity via Infrastructure Loan Trap, Advanced Surveillance Control for Big Data Collection that crucial for AI, States monopoly control for Wealth generations, slavery religion control,...

The Atheistic Socialism, Communism or Marxism CCP prohibits 90 million Members in subscribing to any Religion as they fear of Religion Purifying Individual Soul.

US-China Trade War has it deepen agendas, freedom of respectful soul for mankind. I’m not sure this is appropriate forum but what is the Ideal Taoism in our Soul?

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post Sep 18 2018, 12:12 AM

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There are many Taoist temples or Taoist-Buddhism hybrid temples in Malaysia, but I think they are run by non-English speakers. Thus, no one else seem to be posting here, and we can't get the opinion of these other Taoists, which is too bad.

The Ideal Taoism is to follow the Tao / Way. However, if the Tao cannot be explained, then most would not know how to follow the Tao. We learn in the corporate world to focus on our objective to achieve our goal; but with the Tao, what is the objective, what is the goal, since it cannot be explained? This will lead to many trials and errors. Mostly errors. Thus, most Taoists just offer some incense to the known Gods, and leave it at that.

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post Sep 18 2018, 01:09 AM

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QUOTE(JasonAubama @ Sep 14 2018, 12:31 PM)
Should I acquire my Taoist Priest Qualification like my dad, I must pledge absolute loyalty to Atheistic CCP, Socialism with China Characteristics & Leadership of Xi JinPing prior to seek approval by China Home Affairs via China Taoism Association 😳

In addition, Public Burning Incense, Hell Notes, Joss Offerings & Taoism Rituals are strictly prohibited. All approved religious activities must be strictly monitored by CCCTV for Safety purpose.

Luckily Taoism allowing eating Pork, drinking Alcohol, Ethical Sex Activity & need not to be Sinicized like Muslim in XinJiang to be Re-Educated, Christianity Symbol demolished in HeNan, Buddhism Leaders involvement in Sex & Corruption Scandals.
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You sound like spreading Falun Gong and anti-China
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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Sep 23 2017, 02:40 PM)
There is no such thing as a mix of Buddhism and Taoism.

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Isnt Zen Buddhism (Chaan) the fusion of Buddhism and Taoism?
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post Sep 18 2018, 05:09 AM

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QUOTE(conxtion @ Sep 18 2018, 12:12 AM)
The Ideal Taoism is to follow the Tao / Way.  However, if the Tao cannot be explained, then most would not know how to follow the Tao.  We learn in the corporate world to focus on our objective to achieve our goal; but with the Tao, what is the objective, what is the goal, since it cannot be explained?  This will lead to many trials and errors.  Mostly errors.  Thus, most Taoists just offer some incense to the known Gods, and leave it at that.
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You may find most of your leads in this link:

https://personaltao.com/taoism/taoism-101/

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post Sep 18 2018, 06:07 AM

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QUOTE(nachtsider @ Sep 23 2017, 07:40 AM)
There is no such thing as a mix of Buddhism and Taoism.

What you are encountering is actually a third religion known at Shenism or Chinese folk religion, which predates both Buddhism and Taoism but incorporates some elements of both, interpreting them in its own unique way that both religions often find heretical.
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Many people don't know the difference between those 3. They simply follow what their parents been doing and they in turn, their parents.


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post Sep 18 2018, 06:12 AM

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QUOTE(empatTan @ Sep 23 2017, 10:04 AM)
Donno haha

But Niels Bohr, one of modern physics founders, adopted d Tao Yin Yang symbol as his personal symbol. That says a lot...
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People adapt symbol for all sorts of reason. Some just for the fun of it. So have to say Bohr adapted it for what reason.



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