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 Mar 9 2017, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 9 2017, 05:01 PM) and when I zoom out the chart...  it looks so cheat for me... range trading... about 12 sen meat or 8.5% meat... do I want to play this range... or should wait for the stock to breakout of this range? *** these are what I will write down in my 555... and later I will come and revisit....   |
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Mar 9 2017, 05:17 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 9 2017, 05:06 PM) What happen.. today too busy no monitor market..  I also dunno.... I just saw the closing day trades only.... see this is why... for this instance/stock... atm.... it's best to wait and then trade the breakout.... else... u be left guessing whether its coming or its going.... |
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Mar 9 2017, 05:18 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 9 2017, 05:17 PM) I also dunno.... I just saw the closing day trades only.... see this is why... for this instance/stock... atm.... it's best to wait and then trade the breakout.... else... u be left guessing whether its coming or its going....  |
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Mar 9 2017, 05:20 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 9 2017, 05:08 PM) Based purely at chart.. can go back to 1.80 or not?  Since when you see me use chart to predict the stock prices ??..........  |
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Mar 9 2017, 05:21 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 9 2017, 05:18 PM) This stock like to trap people.. hahaha better becareful.. How can you say trap la.... If one trade/invest wrongly... sure ownself kena all kind of booob booob trap la.  |
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Mar 9 2017, 06:51 PM
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Market sentiment today most likely because of the oil dropped quite heong
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Mar 9 2017, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 9 2017, 05:20 PM) Since when you see me use chart to predict the stock prices ??.......... |
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Mar 9 2017, 07:33 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 9 2017, 07:25 PM) I though some charts got TP 1 and TP 2 one.. how they predict that? That's others people charts. Not mine. You read research reports... You got see how what their future eps is based on? Some can even used CAGR 45% for their eps estimations.  LOL! Anyway... We see what we want to see... and we hear what we want to hear... that's the norm... So TP1 TP2... Now Kleenex sell so many kind of TP hor... Some are scented ... Some aren't...  I dunno how NTPM can compete.... Those scented ones... So nice smell...to wipe them smelly stuff... How NTPM? You have? Or was it the FooFoo bugger?  |
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Mar 9 2017, 07:34 PM
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Mar 9 2017, 06:51 PM) Market sentiment today most likely because of the oil dropped quite heong Not a buying opportunity? ( must be like Ah Gark... fan the fire...  ) |
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Mar 9 2017, 07:36 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 9 2017, 07:33 PM) That's others people charts. Not mine. Sooooo all pluck from the sky one? You read research reports... You got see how what their future eps is based on? Some can even used CAGR 45% for their eps estimations. LOL! Anyway... We see what we want to see... and we hear what we want to hear... that's the norm...  So TP1 TP2... Now Kleenex sell so many kind of TP hor... Some are scented ... Some aren't...  I dunno how NTPM can compete.... Those scented ones... So nice smell...to wipe them smelly stuff... How NTPM? You have? Or was it the FooFoo bugger? I dont have NTPM...not bad stock tho..Now NTPM not only sell tissue but feminine towel and daipers also.. This post has been edited by gark: Mar 9 2017, 07:37 PM |
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Mar 9 2017, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 9 2017, 07:36 PM) Sooooo all pluck from the sky one? I dont have NTPM...not bad stock tho..Now NTPM not only sell tissue but feminine towel and daipers also.. You know I dun talk about TPs laaaa.... So what's the verdict? Must I get them scented TPs or no? |
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Mar 10 2017, 02:33 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 9 2017, 05:01 PM) First thing first... Thanks. I see what u mean. But what if I put some? The dividend is good there.DOn't over rely on second opinions from forumers here. Not saying you do.. but just saying... I think u can understand.  Ok. For me, I write down comments on charts that I think is interesting/or looking at. I jot down the comments down on a 555. I would come back... say a few days or few hours later... observe what I wrote. sometimes ... these comments are gold. Like for example... My general observation is that you are simply unsure.... u reckon this stock has good chance that it will go up.... the next sentence... u reckon it could go down also... Unsure... yes? See I preach trading/investing in less stocks at one time... One of the rationale is when you trade with a lot of stocks... you tend to trade with a much carefree attitude... stocks with half chances also you would bet... this is where mistakes occur... for the stock isn't the best viable trading option available.... you just trade cos you wanted to trade (or some other reason) by trading in fewer stocks... you force yourself to be very selective.... it (the stock) must have more than very good chance to make money (big money too)..if no don't waste time and place money at unnecessary risks now if you reflect it back to ytl p... you are simply unsure.. why bet when you are unsure? The other big thing to ask is.... WHERE"S THE BEEF?? you need to work out your risk reward ratio... if the meet is so small... why take the chance to bet? you know... many around still bet and gamble for a 5% gain or a 10% gain.... some even do for big nac meal. so let's take a look at ytl p...  what's the chart saying? my straight answer is that it's going up and down in a SIDEWAY range. * traders do try to make money in range trading... they wait for the stock to hit the lower range and then they attempt to buy... and then they wait for the stock to hit the upper range... and then they sell. most of these trading... I don't like... cos there isn't much meat...* Back to ytl p.... this is what I am seeing. Sideway trading in a range... and look at the range.... is there any meat? and when I zoom out the chart... it looks so cheat for me... range trading... about 12 sen meat or 8.5% meat... do I want to play this range... or should wait for the stock to breakout of this range? *** these are what I will write down in my 555... and later I will come and revisit.... |
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Mar 10 2017, 06:09 AM
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QUOTE(knight @ Mar 10 2017, 02:33 AM) Thanks. I see what u mean. But what if I put some? The dividend is good there. If you want to put some, put la. I am NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR DECISIONS!!!! The dividend is good? LOL! Not right to ask me that.  But let me ask you back one simple question. What's the risk of buying cos of dividend? |
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Mar 10 2017, 08:58 AM
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QUOTE(knight @ Mar 10 2017, 02:33 AM) Thanks. I see what u mean. But what if I put some? The dividend is good there. So I asked What's the risk of buying cos of dividend?Whenever one makes any statement... before you follow... just ask yourself .. if the issue raised is valid. So I asked about the risk in buying cos of dividends Firstly.... I am NOT saying dividends will not work ... BUT ... I am addressing the risk... Yes they are risks !!! The main one.... is ..... DIVIDENDS are never a 100% gimme.... the owners/bod can announce of out the blue ... that they won't pay dividend... sometimes for the quarter... sometimes even for the whole year... the company 'might' say... something like 'oh we need the money to fund new project/capex etc etc etc IRONICALLY.... YTL and YTL Power had pulled this stunt b4. Recent years... YTL slashed its dividends to almost zero for FY2011, FY2012 and FY2013. YTL Power did this...  See how YTLP cut its dividends from FY2010 to FY2013? Not too long ago Smurfs talked about Amway, in another thread - click here and see post#50 My reply was here - see post 53 Anyway, this Amway example, showed the risks in investing/trading for dividends. BECAUSE once the profits for the company decline, the dividends, naturally, wold decline too. ... and with it... the stock price would decline too. Conclusion? Dividends is not a 100% gimme. And once the dividends are cut... the stock price will follow suit and decline too! And for the case of YTL and YTLP... both are huge companies... but look at the stock price the last 5 years...... |
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Mar 10 2017, 11:35 AM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 10 2017, 08:58 AM) » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « |
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Mar 10 2017, 03:03 PM
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Hope im not too late saying those vested in O&G counter,
GTFO NOW!! i see hibiscus deep a lot today. Others im not sure |
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Mar 10 2017, 05:45 PM
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Boon3 In &a& reach 88 and almost breach 88.5, so now how the handle on the cup looks like..
*Not encourage ppl to buy unless owner going to KO soon.. This post has been edited by gark: Mar 10 2017, 05:46 PM |
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Mar 10 2017, 07:11 PM
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QUOTE(Smurfs @ Mar 10 2017, 11:35 AM) ok la since u tagged me, I got 1 question for you. » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Kena taichi 3rd movement liao... |
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Mar 10 2017, 07:14 PM
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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 10 2017, 05:45 PM) Boon3 In &a& reach 88 and almost breach 88.5, so now how the handle on the cup looks like.. Good movement today. *Not encourage ppl to buy unless owner going to KO soon.. All eyes on next week... talking ayam... now 2 scenario... 1. It breaks past 88 2. It pulls back - it needs to digest today's movement. volume was good. LOL! I think we should see 2. |
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Mar 10 2017, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 10 2017, 07:14 PM) Good movement today. Interesting to see if the cup and handle pattern really works.. All eyes on next week... talking ayam... now 2 scenario... 1. It breaks past 88 2. It pulls back - it needs to digest today's movement. volume was good. LOL! I think we should see 2.  |
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