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Technical PS4 Pro with a 4K Monitor.....is it wise?

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TSAhMoon
post Mar 1 2017, 02:37 PM, updated 9y ago

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Own a PS4 Pro, but do not own a 4K TV or monitor. Currently only using a cheap 27" 1080p monitor.

Is it wise to buy a 4K monitor and pair it with my PS4 Pro, instead of a 4K TV? Reason to prefer a monitor than a TV is because of size. For 4K monitor, 24" to 28" available. But for 4K TV, minimum size is 43", which is very big and not practical to be put on table, sit near and use as a monitor.

Anyone faced this dilemma before or perhaps can give some idea?
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:43 PM

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to be honest...anything less than 60" or 70" ...wouldn't really feel the difference between 1080p and 4k
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Mar 1 2017, 02:43 PM)
to be honest...anything less than 60" or 70" ...wouldn't really feel the difference between 1080p and 4k
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So you're suggesting instead of buying a new 4K monitor or TV, I should just stick to my 1080p monitor, unless I go for 60" and above screen size?
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:46 PM

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Even though im using the slim version, plugging the console on a monitor feels more laggy compared to tv. Maybe because of the distance. Sit near, our eyes can 'feel' the framerate...
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:47 PM

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You have answered your own question. If you having small area and where you sit is near, use your existing monitor no point wasting money. Once you have more space and budget get the 4k TV for future proofing.

FYI, not all games will run 4k on consoles.
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(veztev @ Mar 1 2017, 02:46 PM)
Even though im using the slim version, plugging the console on a monitor feels more laggy compared to tv. Maybe because of the distance. Sit near, our eyes can 'feel' the framerate...
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Hmm....this I frame rate thing I hardly notice. I did try plug it to my living room TV, which is a 32" 1080p, and for some reason, I feel the picture quality is better on TV, and color also looks nicer on TV. Maybe my monitor sucked, I'm not sure. It's a cheap Viewsonic 27" 1080p monitor after all, so this is why I'm thinking of changing it, and 4K monitor (or TV) comes into mind.
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(molok @ Mar 1 2017, 02:47 PM)
You have answered your own question. If you having small area and where you sit is near, use your existing monitor no point wasting money. Once you have more space and budget get the 4k TV for future proofing.

FYI, not all games will run 4k on consoles.
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Budget have, but room space don't have, unless I move to a new and bigger house. But thanks for the input anyhow, really appreciate it. I guess I should just stick to my current monitor then, no point spending on something that I can't fully utilise. For my kind of space, distance and table, I think maximum monitor/TV size is 28" only. Anything beyond that will be too big and will hurt eyes due to short distance.
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post Mar 1 2017, 04:28 PM

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Is there any 4k monitor available on the market though?
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post Mar 1 2017, 05:21 PM

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4K HDR monitor is not available in the market at the moment.

with your PS4 pro, you should aim for 4K AND HDR capability. HDR 10bit to be exact. Best if you aim for tv instead of monitor.

I'll stick with 1080p 60fps with my ps4 pro until 4K HDR tv price drops to a reasonable price range.

Check out my thread on choosing 4K HDR tv for PS4 Pro.

4k HDR tv for PS4 pro
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post Mar 1 2017, 06:38 PM

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make sure it has hdr...
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(boneyM @ Mar 1 2017, 04:28 PM)
Is there any 4k monitor available on the market though?
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Yes there is, quite a number as well. And this is one of them

http://www.lelong.com.my/aoc-28-u2879vf-ga...7-03-Sale-P.htm
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:02 PM

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u should aim for 4k and HDR..

not only 4k..
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 1 2017, 05:21 PM)
4K HDR monitor is not available in the market at the moment.

with your PS4 pro, you should aim for 4K AND HDR capability. HDR 10bit to be exact. Best if you aim for tv instead of monitor.

I'll stick with 1080p 60fps with my ps4 pro until 4K HDR tv price drops to a reasonable price range.

Check out my thread on choosing 4K HDR tv for PS4 Pro.

4k HDR tv for PS4 pro
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The 43" TV model that I am aiming does have HDR, but again, it's 43", will be too big to be used as monitor with short distance. This is why I'm hoping for a 4K monitor instead, because it has 24" to 28" size. But again, I'm not really sure if a monitor is ideal for a PS4 Pro.
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Mar 1 2017, 10:02 PM)
u should aim for 4k and HDR..

not only 4k..
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Yes, HDR, this is the TV I am looking at

http://www.lazada.com.my/lg-43uh617t-ultra...s-10792998.html

It's the size that concerns me more because I'll be using it as a monitor as well at the same time. And unfortunately, not a single 4K monitor available today has HDR capability. Therefore I'm wondering the current 4K monitor (without HDR), is it worth investing in, for both my PC and PS4 Pro use.
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:07 PM

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Still render in 1080p
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(AhMoon @ Mar 1 2017, 10:06 PM)
Yes, HDR, this is the TV I am looking at

http://www.lazada.com.my/lg-43uh617t-ultra...s-10792998.html

It's the size that concerns me more because I'll be using it as a monitor as well at the same time. And unfortunately, not a single 4K monitor available today has HDR capability. Therefore I'm wondering the current 4K monitor (without HDR), is it worth investing in, for both my PC and PS4 Pro use.
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if u dont mind not having HDR or having to spend money to change again in the future..

sure..
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(TheHitman47 @ Mar 1 2017, 10:07 PM)
Still render in 1080p
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this is a common misconception..

some games actually run at native 4k...

while others running at 1440p, 1600p or 1800p...

thn it uses checkerboard rendering to upscaled it to 4k..

unless u stick ur face to the screen..it is almost impossible to see..
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QUOTE(AhMoon @ Mar 1 2017, 02:37 PM)
Own a PS4 Pro, but do not own a 4K TV or monitor. Currently only using a cheap 27" 1080p monitor.

Is it wise to buy a 4K monitor and pair it with my PS4 Pro, instead of a 4K TV? Reason to prefer a monitor than a TV is because of size. For 4K monitor, 24" to 28" available. But for 4K TV, minimum size is 43", which is very big and not practical to be put on table, sit near and use as a monitor.

Anyone faced this dilemma before or perhaps can give some idea?
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most people go for monitors for the refresh rate.
there's hardly any ghosting to speak of when jumping to a high end monitor-4k or otherwise.
but if you're not looking to play a game competitively, there's hardly any reason to go for a monitor; at least IMO.

at home I'm using a 55"KS7000, which I'm sitting about 2 feet away. the size takes a little bit of an adjustment, coming from a 50"W800b, but feels just right after a day or two of gaming.

back in my hometown, i recently bought a "gaming" monitor which is fairly low end, but still something alot of "pro gamers" claim is better than a TV.

I'm not impressed.

Something about having the size of the screen vs a 27" monitor...it just doesn't compare.

anyway, as others have mentioned; if you're going to upgrade, be sure it's HDR enabled. don't just look at the resolution of the screen.
There's a reason Sony pushed HDR instead of 4K when announcing the PS4Pro.

QUOTE(veztev @ Mar 1 2017, 02:46 PM)
Even though im using the slim version, plugging the console on a monitor feels more laggy compared to tv. Maybe because of the distance. Sit near, our eyes can 'feel' the framerate...
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I find this very odd.
On my monitor I had to bump up my control sensitivity up 2 notches-from medium to very high before i can feel as comfortable on the monitor as I am with my TV.

no idea why..it has nothing to do with the frame rate either, the controls just feel way more responsive on my TV.
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post Mar 2 2017, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Mar 1 2017, 10:21 PM)

I find this very odd.
On my monitor I had to bump up my control sensitivity up 2 notches-from medium to very high before i can feel as comfortable on the monitor as I am with my TV.

no idea why..it has nothing to do with the frame rate either, the controls just feel way more responsive on my TV.
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I can feel the difference when playing Hitman. The lag is noticeable in my 24" monitor compared to my 32" viera. Technically framerates are the same as we are using the same console/hardware.. but yeah...agreed its sound strange.
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post Mar 3 2017, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Mar 1 2017, 10:08 PM)
if u dont mind not having HDR or having to spend money to change again in the future..

sure..
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Ok, I understand now. Thanks man.

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