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post Mar 1 2017, 02:37 PM, updated 9y ago

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Own a PS4 Pro, but do not own a 4K TV or monitor. Currently only using a cheap 27" 1080p monitor.

Is it wise to buy a 4K monitor and pair it with my PS4 Pro, instead of a 4K TV? Reason to prefer a monitor than a TV is because of size. For 4K monitor, 24" to 28" available. But for 4K TV, minimum size is 43", which is very big and not practical to be put on table, sit near and use as a monitor.

Anyone faced this dilemma before or perhaps can give some idea?
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:45 PM

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QUOTE(lyc1982 @ Mar 1 2017, 02:43 PM)
to be honest...anything less than 60" or 70" ...wouldn't really feel the difference between 1080p and 4k
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So you're suggesting instead of buying a new 4K monitor or TV, I should just stick to my 1080p monitor, unless I go for 60" and above screen size?
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(veztev @ Mar 1 2017, 02:46 PM)
Even though im using the slim version, plugging the console on a monitor feels more laggy compared to tv. Maybe because of the distance. Sit near, our eyes can 'feel' the framerate...
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Hmm....this I frame rate thing I hardly notice. I did try plug it to my living room TV, which is a 32" 1080p, and for some reason, I feel the picture quality is better on TV, and color also looks nicer on TV. Maybe my monitor sucked, I'm not sure. It's a cheap Viewsonic 27" 1080p monitor after all, so this is why I'm thinking of changing it, and 4K monitor (or TV) comes into mind.
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post Mar 1 2017, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(molok @ Mar 1 2017, 02:47 PM)
You have answered your own question. If you having small area and where you sit is near, use your existing monitor no point wasting money. Once you have more space and budget get the 4k TV for future proofing.

FYI, not all games will run 4k on consoles.
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Budget have, but room space don't have, unless I move to a new and bigger house. But thanks for the input anyhow, really appreciate it. I guess I should just stick to my current monitor then, no point spending on something that I can't fully utilise. For my kind of space, distance and table, I think maximum monitor/TV size is 28" only. Anything beyond that will be too big and will hurt eyes due to short distance.
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(boneyM @ Mar 1 2017, 04:28 PM)
Is there any 4k monitor available on the market though?
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Yes there is, quite a number as well. And this is one of them

http://www.lelong.com.my/aoc-28-u2879vf-ga...7-03-Sale-P.htm
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 1 2017, 05:21 PM)
4K HDR monitor is not available in the market at the moment.

with your PS4 pro, you should aim for 4K AND HDR capability. HDR 10bit to be exact. Best if you aim for tv instead of monitor.

I'll stick with 1080p 60fps with my ps4 pro until 4K HDR tv price drops to a reasonable price range.

Check out my thread on choosing 4K HDR tv for PS4 Pro.

4k HDR tv for PS4 pro
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The 43" TV model that I am aiming does have HDR, but again, it's 43", will be too big to be used as monitor with short distance. This is why I'm hoping for a 4K monitor instead, because it has 24" to 28" size. But again, I'm not really sure if a monitor is ideal for a PS4 Pro.
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post Mar 1 2017, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Mar 1 2017, 10:02 PM)
u should aim for 4k and HDR..

not only 4k..
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Yes, HDR, this is the TV I am looking at

http://www.lazada.com.my/lg-43uh617t-ultra...s-10792998.html

It's the size that concerns me more because I'll be using it as a monitor as well at the same time. And unfortunately, not a single 4K monitor available today has HDR capability. Therefore I'm wondering the current 4K monitor (without HDR), is it worth investing in, for both my PC and PS4 Pro use.
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post Mar 3 2017, 10:32 AM

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QUOTE(Baconateer @ Mar 1 2017, 10:08 PM)
if u dont mind not having HDR or having to spend money to change again in the future..

sure..
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Ok, I understand now. Thanks man.
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post Mar 3 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(Mgsrulz @ Mar 1 2017, 10:21 PM)
most people go for monitors for the refresh rate.
there's hardly any ghosting to speak of when jumping to a high end monitor-4k or otherwise.
but if you're not looking to play a game competitively, there's hardly any reason to go for a monitor; at least IMO.

at home I'm using a 55"KS7000, which I'm sitting about 2 feet away. the size takes a little bit of an adjustment, coming from a 50"W800b, but feels just right after a day or two of gaming.

back in my hometown, i recently bought a "gaming" monitor which is fairly low end, but still something alot of "pro gamers" claim is better than a TV.

I'm not impressed.

Something about having the size of the screen vs a 27" monitor...it just doesn't compare.

anyway, as others have mentioned; if you're going to upgrade, be sure it's HDR enabled. don't just look at the resolution of the screen.
There's a reason Sony pushed HDR instead of 4K when announcing the PS4Pro.
I find this very odd.
On my monitor I had to bump up my control sensitivity up 2 notches-from medium to very high before i can feel as comfortable on the monitor as I am with my TV.

no idea why..it has nothing to do with the frame rate either, the controls just feel way more responsive on my TV.
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Alright, now I know, TV it is then, for my PS4 Pro. I haven't really seen what HDR is all about yet, but it seems that everyone is talking about it when it comes to 4K TV, so it must be important I suppose. Guess I just have to wait until I get a 4K TV only can see it for myself what it is all about. Thanks man.
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post Mar 15 2017, 10:44 AM

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I have finally bought a 4K TV, to be exact it's a LG 43UH610T, at a very good value/price from Lazada. All I can say, to those who said better pair the PS4 Pro with a TV than a monitor, you are absolutely right! I tested it last night, I was very impressed! The HDR thing is amazing. Luckily I have one game that supports it, which is Uncharted 4, and the difference is very obvious. Some settings need to be done on the TV itself, or else the HDR is disabled by default. And on the PS4 too, have to set some stuff in the Display section. Got 2 kinds of HDR though, one is RGB and the other is YUV20. I pick the RGB one, but still have no idea what is the difference between these two.

Anyway, I hope more titles will come with HDR support in future. This TV is a worthy buy. Hopefully this thread can provide the info to those who wish to buy PS4 Pro in future but face similar dilemma like my situation here. Just go for a 4K TV..........you won't regret it!
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post Mar 16 2017, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Mar 16 2017, 11:26 AM)
Nice one bro. How long did it take to deliver to your home when you buy from Lazada?
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Monday ordered, Tuesday received. Very efficient.
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post Mar 21 2017, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Mar 16 2017, 11:49 AM)
Seriously?? That's so fast.  rclxms.gif

Thanks for the info bro.  notworthy.gif
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You are welcome. And yea, I was quite surprised also that they could send such a huge item so fast. They must have got stock ready in hand or something awaiting to be sent anytime somewhere.
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post Mar 21 2017, 05:46 PM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Mar 21 2017, 05:17 PM)


As expected, HDR option is unavailable when using 4K monitor because there is no 4K HDR monitor at the moment.
But the most important to look for a 4K monitor is that it supports USB 2.0, otherwise, you won't be able to get the 4K RGB or YUV option in PS4 Pro video settings menu.

But according to this guy, it's already looked marvelous even without HDR.

He's using a Philips BDM4350UC 43-Inch Class IPS-LED Monitor 4K monitor.
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I think u must be referring to HDMI 2.0 and not USB 2.0, a typo error there perhaps? And yes, HDR is indeed a big deal when it comes to 4K and PS4 Pro. After I have tested and seen what my PS4 Pro can produce on my recently purchased 4K TV that has HDR support, I was really impressed. Of course the game itself has to be able to support it and I just lucky enough to have one of them, which is Uncharted 4. The graphics and color are so beautiful and realistic, especially on tropical jungle scenery location. For a non-gamer who happens to be around while I'm playing, she also shocked that how come a videogame can look so realistic and even asked whether or not I'm playing a game or watching a movie. I certainly looking forward for more titles to support HDR functionality in future, especially AAA first party titles.

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post Mar 28 2017, 03:55 PM

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QUOTE(SimonsayZ @ Mar 28 2017, 03:00 PM)
Bro, how is the TV? Are the colours and brightness ok? I'm thinking of getting the same model as you. How's your review on it so far with PS4 Pro?
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The TV is superb, especially when I got it for that unbeatable price. I was using a LG 43" also before this, but it was a Full-HD model (43LF570T). Watching HD and FHD stuffs, I'd say, can't see or tell any difference. Both are very much the same. It only shows a real huge difference when playing HDR content, in which for my case is my PS4 Pro running a HDR supported game Uncharted 4. If you have a big room with long viewing distance, get bigger size, then maybe you'll see more difference. Unfortunately my room is small and viewing distance is short, so I can't get bigger size model. For 4K, usually people go for 49" and beyond.
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post Mar 29 2017, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(Old1030 @ Mar 29 2017, 04:12 PM)
Bro,

Do mind to share the price
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Here it is

http://www.lazada.com.my/lg-43-uhd-4k-hdr-...32075.html?ff=1
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post Apr 7 2017, 09:41 AM

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Apr 6 2017, 05:31 PM)
Dell ultrathin QHD HDR10 monitor

Finally, a HDR10 capable monitor from Dell!

But QHD reso only though (2560×1440) IPS panel.

Rm2,999.

So buy or not?  tongue.gif
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Expensive loh, with this amount of money, can buy a very nice and good 4K TV already. Besides, PS4 is also unable to utilize the 1440p resolution.
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post Nov 24 2017, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(alexlim_88 @ Nov 23 2017, 10:16 PM)
Alright.. been looking for HDR10 monitor for about a month.. finally, Acer has come out an HDR10 monitor which has affordable price!

Wish to do programming work, game dev work, photoshop, and console games in one monitor.

Tada ET322QK ~!! Not yet available in Malaysia (as shitty as always). Available already in Singapore, at SG$434.99. Yep it is around RM1400... no kidding...

https://www.newegg.com/global/sg/Product/Pr...158&ignorebbr=1

Need to find a way to deliver to Malaysia.
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Dell also got a model that has HDR and it is available here already. The model is U2718Q, market selling for like RM2599 or so.

 

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