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post Aug 11 2025, 01:00 AM

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can recommennd a minimum PC DIY package
with 16gb ram, 12th gen processor, 5060 graphic card, fish tank case, plus AIO with LCD?

need to buy a new PC just for productivity work.
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post Aug 11 2025, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 11 2025, 08:40 AM)
Just for productivity/office use why fishtank and AIO?

What kind of productivity work? Otherwise a dGPU is overkill.

Whats your budget anyways?
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Actually never play game so actually no need dGPU. Can be integrated graphic card using 12400 CPU.

Fishtank and AIO is meant for cosmetic which I value a lot.
So any decent fishtank case with built-in aRGB fans will be good also.

I just need a second computer with minimum budget. Not sure how much will it cost though.

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post Aug 11 2025, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 11 2025, 12:49 PM)
Same hardware that I reco to Leo90 above except add on;

BE QUIET! Silent Loop 2 360mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
https://shopee.com.my/BE-QUIET!-Silent-...6300.8967157846
(this version only ARGB on pump, if can wait for Light Loop with ARGB fans too. For AIO I prefer BQ bcoz you can refill the loop once fluid evaporates, which is the main reason for AIOs pump failure)

Replace case with Montech XR ARGB fans version
https://www.montechpc.com/xr

RAMs can use any ARGB version if thats your thing. I prefer TForce Delta (in DDR4 & DDR5)
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Intel i5 12400 - rm575
*MSI Pro B760M-A Wifi DDR4 - rm377
*2x 16GB DDR4/ DDR5 (any value for money RAM model/brand to buy? i only do productivity work so i guess 2 x 8GB will be sufficient?)
ADATA SPECTRIX D35G DDR4 RGB MEMORY 3200MHz DESKTOP GAMING RAM 8GB x 2 - rm204
1TB/ 2TB Adata S70 Blade - rm358
No GPU
Gigabyte P650G 80PLUS Gold Power Supply (650W) PC PSU - rm205

the above components and price ok? total rm1719++

AIO and case i am still searching.
AIO i am looking for VALKYRIE A360 - but where to find it?
Case one i need a fish tank case with more ARGB fans.. thought maybe case like antec one is also not bad.

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now thinking maybe i will not go for fish tank case but go for a slimmer case.

LIAN LI A3-mATX PC Case - Black - rm273

then i no need to go for ARGB ram and AIO, instead i just use the given fan by the 12400 processor?

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post Aug 11 2025, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 11 2025, 12:49 PM)
Same hardware that I reco to Leo90 above except add on;

BE QUIET! Silent Loop 2 360mm AIO Liquid CPU Cooler
https://shopee.com.my/BE-QUIET!-Silent-...6300.8967157846
(this version only ARGB on pump, if can wait for Light Loop with ARGB fans too. For AIO I prefer BQ bcoz you can refill the loop once fluid evaporates, which is the main reason for AIOs pump failure)

Replace case with Montech XR ARGB fans version
https://www.montechpc.com/xr

RAMs can use any ARGB version if thats your thing. I prefer TForce Delta (in DDR4 & DDR5)
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Intel i5 12400 - rm516
*MSI Pro B760M-A Wifi DDR4 - rm377
ADATA SPECTRIX D35G DDR4 RGB MEMORY 3200MHz DESKTOP GAMING RAM 8GB x 2 - rm204
1TB/ 2TB Adata S70 Blade - rm358
Gigabyte P650G 80PLUS Gold Power Supply (650W) PC PSU - rm205
LIAN LI A3-mATX PC Case - Black - rm273

total: rm1933

Did i get enough components for a basic productivity only PC?

RAM one any option i can get for even cheaper price? (noticed that most shops no longer selling much DDR4 ram with no RGB. or the price is even more ex than the RGB one i selected.

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post Aug 11 2025, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 11 2025, 04:58 PM)
M-A wifi mobo are you sure it is that cheap?

For RAM do get 2x 16GB as WIN11 is a hog and I bet future WIN12 will be more so. DDR4 is getting more expensive and getting rarer to find as sellers are clearing stocks since it will EOL manufacture this year. Thats why its better spend now and get more than enough than trying to buy more RAM next time.

If you wanna build a DDR4 rig, do it now. Otherwise just pay more and go with DDR5 build

For PSU, I would stay away from Giga due to bad rep, its not super cheap either just pay a bit more for solid FSP HV Pro 85+ or MSI A650BN both got 650W.

I would have adviced against el cheapo AIO but since you change the case to a DANS type case I would still say it depends. If there is no GPU, the stock box cooler is sufficient for that i5 CPU but if you chuck in a GPU later, I would go with a dual tower ie PA120SE or 240mm AIO as more stuff will choke airflow using such a basic cooler.
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i think i saw wrongly, it stated B760M-E? tongue.gif
so it is not the one i should buy rite? what should be the price expected for the mobo?

ya. if i dun use fish tank case, then i will use the stock fan cooler instead.

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post Aug 11 2025, 05:39 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 11 2025, 05:37 PM)
You should expect similar to this (12400 + that mobo in DDR5 ver)
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ok thanks for the info.

Intel i5 12400 - rm516
MSI Pro B760M-A Wifi DDR4 - ?
ADATA SPECTRIX D35G DDR4 RGB MEMORY 3200MHz DESKTOP GAMING RAM 8GB x 2 - rm204
1TB/ 2TB Adata S70 Blade - rm358
Gigabyte P650G 80PLUS Gold Power Supply (650W) PC PSU - rm205
LIAN LI A3-mATX PC Case - Black - rm273

total: ?

Since i am using the case, that it does not come with fans, any recommendation for the fans i can buy to use with the case?

THERMALRIGHT TL-M12-S ARGB 120MM - rm35 is it a good budget choice?

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post Aug 12 2025, 07:50 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 11 2025, 11:55 PM)
https://www.tmt.my/products/msi-lga1700-int...atx-motherboard

Since that case doesnt really have a window why still want lighting? For good quality fan w/o light go with Artic P12, if want ARGB get Scythe Kaze Flex 2 ARGB (has 12v RGB ver too)
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icic. thanks.

there is glass panel sold on shopee for the case, i saw some bought it to replace one side of the panel to glass and make it transparent. looks quite nice also.

so may consider to have lights for fans. tongue.gif
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post Aug 12 2025, 01:13 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 12 2025, 09:16 AM)
If wanna go thru all that trouble isnt it better to get similar compact case with tempered glass?

Jonsbo D32
https://shopee.com.my/JONSBO-D32-PRO-MATX-C...329.43961029152

Phanteks XT M3
https://shopee.com.my/product/11578329/43501640714

Unless your hardup on that Lianli design.

Both will need to bring your own fans tho.
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Thinking of getting the Lian Li o11 mini v2 also.

The price is cheaper than o11 vision and cheaper.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 12 2025, 09:16 AM)
If wanna go thru all that trouble isnt it better to get similar compact case with tempered glass?

Jonsbo D32
https://shopee.com.my/JONSBO-D32-PRO-MATX-C...329.43961029152

Phanteks XT M3
https://shopee.com.my/product/11578329/43501640714

Unless your hardup on that Lianli design.

Both will need to bring your own fans tho.
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Thinking of getting the Lian Li o11 mini v2 also.

But seems like Shopee a lot of online store does not carry it even the Lian Li store on Shopee.

The price is cheaper than o11 vision and cheaper.
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post Aug 13 2025, 09:58 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 12 2025, 02:27 PM)
Your build is getting highly confusing. O11 even in mini form is typical of fishtank case, defo much wider than A3 and those DAN type cases I reco above.
So actually what your going for?

Also be mindful smaller dual chamber fishtanks have limited space to hide cables so typically these goes with modular PSU, which those in your selection is not. So it will be huge effort to try hide those molex & sata cables not used.

O11 type has been copied to death so theres plenty of clones from cheap to expensive, you just got to search case maker websites ie Jonsbo, Tecware, Montech

Then if you go with fishtank are you still sticking to intel stock cooler? Will look ugly tho.
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actually this is the issue i faced now also.

after researching all the cases, notice that A3 and Mini v2 price is actually quite similar, initially wanted to save cost by going A3 becos it is not fish tank type case so internal parts will not be seen. but since mini v2 price is so similar, which is also my favourite type case, it makes me in a dilemma that whether i should just go for mini v2.

and also after watching a lot of reviews on youtube, notice also that lian li has a new budget case that comes with integrated argb fans, although it seems like it is not available in bolehland yet.

https://lian-li.com/product/vector-v100/

also a lot of youtubers also comment that nowadays ddr4 ram actually increases than drops price.
so 12th gen processor + ddr4, the cp value actually drops compared to before.

and still using 12th to 14th gen processor, it means that it is limited to old mobo also.
especially if ddr4 version, meaning in future, if want to upgrade, may need to pay more for eol or limited stocks parts also.

so come to think, whether i should just go for 15th gen processor and new mobo and ddr5 for more future proof is a qns also.
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post Aug 13 2025, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 13 2025, 11:11 AM)
Your decision is too uncertain to give a reco. You might want to ask again once your have rough idea what you want and prolly how much budget money.

If low ball budget, better not go with branded cases like Lianli. Theres other cheaper brand models ie Tecware VXN that comes with ARGB fans so no need pay extras
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/tecware-...5442822948.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/tecware-...6131221711.html
Or really cheap with fixed RGB fans
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/pdp-i452...5570317409.html

Theres no issue for 12th Gen (or 13400 or 14400) longevity for just office productivity use. Mobo theres also DDR5 option if your that concerned. Going with cheaper case can give you more money to up for DDR5 build.

Good luck!
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Thanks bro, will rethink again the choices, smile.gif
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post Aug 14 2025, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 13 2025, 11:11 AM)
Your decision is too uncertain to give a reco. You might want to ask again once your have rough idea what you want and prolly how much budget money.

If low ball budget, better not go with branded cases like Lianli. Theres other cheaper brand models ie Tecware VXN that comes with ARGB fans so no need pay extras
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/tecware-...5442822948.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/tecware-...6131221711.html
Or really cheap with fixed RGB fans
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/pdp-i452...5570317409.html

Theres no issue for 12th Gen (or 13400 or 14400) longevity for just office productivity use. Mobo theres also DDR5 option if your that concerned. Going with cheaper case can give you more money to up for DDR5 build.

Good luck!
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after much consideration, now thinking maybe i can up my budget with the following specs.

I already have this
O11D EVO RGB Automobili Lamborghini Edition case

https://lian-li.com/product/o11dergbl/

by adding this essential components.

user posted image

plus sourcing for more value for money ARGB fans i think it can form a decent built.
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post Aug 14 2025, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 14 2025, 12:53 PM)
Imho kinda unbalanced, but if your buying from Idealtech heres my reco

CPU - same
Mobo - same
RAM - same
PSU - Corsair RM750e is cheaper but FSP Hydro GT Pro 850W is bigger for just Rm20 more (overpriced Edge PSU just gimmick for easier installation)
SSD - change out that pisspoor DRAMless QLC trash for either Team G70 Pro or KC3000 (pay a bit more from above PSU savings)
CPU cooler - Yes need. Ksku CPU no box cooler. DeepCool LT720 360 AIO

FWIW office productivity use no need for Ksku, but I saw it was on promo cheaper than nonK so yeah go with the Ksku CPU as long still got that promo.
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not going to buy from idealtech but just use their website diy customise function to get the list of parts i want, this round i will just buy the parts from shopee those reputable shops for cheaper price and assemble (either ownself assemble or probably get ppl to assemble).

PSU - i actually compare among all the brands and find that the lian li one price is just slightly higher than the rest of brand with built-in usb extension hub (dun know the use of it, but tot can potentially be useful). tot that lian li brand if price is not too much difference from the rest, can buy it just to match the lian li case.
in addition, it has built-in usb extension on the PSU, so if mobo has not enough 9-pin usb port, this will help, save the cost to buy a usb hub for this.

SSD - ok noted. will change to better one with DRAM cache.

CPU - DeepCool LT720 360 AIO, thanks for the recommendation.

CPU - yes i chose that CPU becos it has integrated graphic card which i need and the price
yeah actually i no need to choose the k one, earlier on i chose it becos of the promo price, but now i saw that i can get the ultra 5 225 instead. cheaper by quite a bit, and sufficient for my need, can cut down the budget due to this.

for ARGB fans - any recommendation? likely will need 6 reverse fans and at least 2 forward fans. if the DeepCool LT720 360 AIO comes with forward fans, meaning i can get the same brand 6x reverse fans to replace the given one from the AIO and take the 3 forward fans come with it to be used as the 2 x forward fans?

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QUOTE(westlife @ Aug 14 2025, 03:11 PM)
not going to buy from idealtech but just use their website diy customise function to get the list of parts i want, this round i will just buy the parts from shopee those reputable shops for cheaper price and assemble (either ownself assemble or probably get ppl to assemble).

PSU - i actually compare among all the brands and find that the lian li one price is just slightly higher than the rest of brand with built-in usb extension hub (dun know the use of it, but tot can potentially be useful).

SSD - ok noted. will change to better one with DRAM cache.

CPU - DeepCool LT720 360 AIO, thanks for the recommendation.

CPU - yes i chose that CPU becos it has integrated graphic card which i need and the price
yeah actually i no need to choose the k one, earlier on i chose it becos of the promo price, but now i saw that i can get the ultra 5 225 instead. cheaper by quite a bit, and sufficient for my need, can cut down the budget due to this.

for ARGB fans - any recommendation? likely will need 6 reverse fans and at least 2 forward fans. if the DeepCool LT720 360 AIO comes with forward fans, meaning i can get the same brand 6x reverse fans to replace the given one from the AIO and take the 3 forward fans come with it to be used as the 2 x forward fans?

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the revised hardware list:

but the Deepcool AIO not sure if there is white colour variant? seems like idealtech does not have it. of course i do not plan to buy from idealtech so will search from shopee mall instead.

besides, seems like deepcool does not sell ARGB fans?

the revised list lacks of the ARGB fans.

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post Aug 14 2025, 05:41 PM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 14 2025, 05:14 PM)
If not using Ksku CPU no need to go with Z mobo, waste of money coz cannot OC that CPU. Try B860 to save money
https://shopee.com.my/product/59277182/28073659059

Cheapest so-so brand white fans with normal & reverse vers, and plus uni fan clip on style, and plus infinity mirror hub and sides. Apa lagi mau?
https://shopee.com.my/product/255368439/23792523521
Dont expect quality tho, if spoil just throw and replace. Slightly better quality brand is Thermalright but dunno if they have clip on style type fans.

For white AIO get this if want with ARGB fans too (LT360 is newer gen than LT720)
https://shopee.com.my/DEEPCOOL-LT360-ARGB-B...795.44302418401
Keep the fans if your gonna mount it on topside of case, you wont notice it anyhow that its different than your case fans.
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thanks bro for the recommendation. have better idea of the remaining parts to complete my rig now.

besides, after relooking into the spec of the CPU. seems like the following has very high CP value rite? although it requires Z890 board, the price per core is cheaper, and i am sure it will be super future proof? which is also in my initial selection list.

[PROMO] INTEL CORE ULTRA 7 265K — RM1,349

Cores / Threads: 20C / 20T

Boost Clock: 5.5 GHz

iGPU: Yes

Shopee can find around rm1286z

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post Aug 15 2025, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 14 2025, 06:15 PM)
Up to you. Its just an office PC. My parents are still using 15 years old 1st gen Core i5 PC for office stuff and will continue use until mobo or CPU dies.
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ok. thanks bro.

think i will settle for ultra 7 265k. now given the discount it is quite worth it and review for this CPU is also that it has very high CP value.

shopee also can get it at rm1265++ this kind of price comparing to ideal tech which is also quite cheap at rm1349.
internal parts pretty much confirmed already. just lack of the AIO and ARGB fans to decide which one to get.

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deciding case, fans and AIO now only.

case - i have the lamborgini case, not sure if i want to use it, or go with another new lian li case. considering vision compact or mini v2 (maybe a bit too small for ATX mobo when assemble parts although it supports it)

note: just use the ideal tech diy website to select parts as list, will buy individual components from shopee, which likely the price will be cheaper.
idealtech price for the listed components is rm4585.

shopee
CPU + mobo = rm2974
ram = rm453.05
PSU 850w - 574.12 (selected)
1000w - 639.57
SSD - rm373.15

total: rm4374.32 (cheaper by rm210.68 comparing to the price quoted on ideal tech website) for the same components. to be fair, ideal tech price considered not too bad which only higher by a bit.

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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 15 2025, 06:02 PM)
Idealtech only charges that RM 210 for doing the assembly (buy from shopee you DIY), testing makes sure everything works, and one stop handling for any warranty (buy from shopee you deal with each seller, if they close shop you deal with distro). RM 200 nowadays can buy what?

Imho if you contact them asking reco for white AIO & white fans Im sure they can provide into the build. But likely will boost the price very close to RM 5k and thats without a dGPU.
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yes, would expect the price to around rm5k or 6k..
unless choose very cheap AIO and fans. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 18 2025, 10:45 AM)
More deals are coming frequent

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Seems like theres a crash in pricing for 5070TI. I wonder maybe the upcoming Super version might be very super for new buyers to prefer it so distros & dealers are getting rid of overpriced stocks.
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the later to buy the better to enjoy better price. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Aug 18 2025, 02:06 PM)
I believe it will continue to come down but its likely they will phase out of market just b4 5070Ti Super launches then the pricing will go back up to RM 4.5k again for the super.

You would need to have superb timing to get the lowest sold price plus best deal with just enuff stock to choose (like all the stars must align) otherwise once you missed, then its gone.

If you think you need to buy it then buy now.
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true indeed. tongue.gif

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