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post May 9 2023, 06:43 AM

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QUOTE(myway1985 @ May 9 2023, 02:21 AM)
1. Tat GPU can't tahan 3D motion when editing
2. Frost commander stock in de..
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Got room for better GPU since cost lower than his 6k cap.

Where did you see Frost Commander?
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post May 10 2023, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(A4pApEr @ May 10 2023, 12:56 AM)
Hi all sifu,

In 2012, one of the sifu here helped me build this PC. Time flies~ I have been using this PC for more than 10 years (with some upgrades).  blush.gif
Until recently, I started to feel some games that I always play take some time to load and also have framerate-dropping issues. So, I feel like getting a new gaming rig for myself. I saw a lot of shops advertising their gaming rig bundle deal on Social Media. They normally offer the same brand for all the hardware. Should I just go and buy one of those bundles within my budget? I have a budget of around 5-5.5k~ Are there any better recommendations from the sifu here for me to build a gaming rig within this budget?

One last question, how did you guys deal with your old rig after you got a new one? blush.gif

Thanks in advance.  thumbup.gif
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How about these?

Core i5-13400F - 955
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE RGB - 169
MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi - 679
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 349
Sapphire RX 6700 XT 12GB - 1799 (more powerful than RTX 3060 and more VRAM than 3060 Ti)
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
Adata Core Reactor 750W - 492
Lian Li Lancool 216 - 425

RM5217 total (Shopee prices)

Optional:
Gigabyte RX 6800 16GB Gaming OC - 2398

Still 8GB on 2023? Have fun...
https://www.techspot.com/article/2670-vram-use-games/

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post May 11 2023, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(WaNaWe900 @ May 10 2023, 09:33 PM)
I'm still 8GB  sweat.gif  icon_question.gif
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Well, time to upgrade 12-16GB cards if you constantly hit the wall..
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post May 11 2023, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(Halls1234 @ May 11 2023, 04:17 PM)
Bro

what you think

Gigabyte RX 6800 16GB Gaming OC - 2398

or 4070 - RM2900

or used 12gb 3080?
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RTX 4070 is fine if u wanna go there.
QUOTE(3lizzardy @ May 11 2023, 04:31 PM)
Hi what do you guys think with this package okay or not?

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Nope. Its crap.
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post May 12 2023, 06:30 PM

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QUOTE(SyriuS @ May 12 2023, 01:17 AM)
Hi guys,
Looking to build a PC just to play D4 maxed out at 4k.

For reference, these are the official specs from blizzard.

OS: 64-bit Windows 10 version 1909 or newer.
Processor: Intel Core i7-8700K or AMD Ryzen 7 2700X.
Memory: 32GB RAM.
Graphics: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080; NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40 Series for fully supported DLSS3 or AMD Radeon RX 6800 XT.
DirectX: Version 12.
Storage: SSD with 90GB available space.

My preferences are below
Case:  Lian Li A4H20
Nvidia Geforce RTX 4070
CPU: Intel
Asus/Gigabyte

Would appreciate recommendations for a miniITX build and a 4k monitor and open to suggestion on an outlet to go to. 

(my previous miniITX based on a fractal design node202 was built by etechPC (now etexpc)
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Try

Core i5-12600K (13600K too much for 240mm) - 1139
Corsair H100 AIO - 385
Gigabyte Z690i Aorus Ultra Plus DDR4 or MSI B760i Edge Wifi DDR4 - 1598 / 939
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3600 - 389
Gigabyte RTX 4070 Gaming OC - 2899
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
Cooler Master V 850W SFX - 652
Lian Li A4-H2O - 632

RM8043 / 7384 total (Shopee prices)

Bare in mind gaming at 4k will require at least RTX 4080, and it doesn't fit into A4-H2O.

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post May 14 2023, 08:41 PM

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QUOTE(imran424 @ May 14 2023, 08:35 PM)
Hi, what are the recommended gen 3 M.2 SSD here? I am still using Ryzen 5 3600 and I don't think my mobo support PCIE 4.0.
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Transcend MTE220S . Nothing else.
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post May 16 2023, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Chiggah @ May 16 2023, 12:40 AM)
What about Gen4 M2 nvme drive ? Any recommendations or not worth to pay early adopter fee ?
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Look for Kingston KC3000. Like recommended millions of times and still no noticing it...

QUOTE(babylon52281 @ May 16 2023, 08:59 AM)
Where got early adopter fee for Gen4 anymore? The new tech today is Gen5 lah.

For Gen4 you pay more bcoz you want higher speeds, up to double Gen3 so the premium is there, nothing to with adopter fee. As for which, Sam 980 Pro, Crucial P5 Plus, WD850X black, all without Phison controller.
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Stupidly overpriced Samseng and WD Stupid Nonsense? Hard pass. Kingston KC3000 is the best.


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post May 18 2023, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(SyriuS @ May 18 2023, 09:00 PM)
First off, thanks for the feedback and suggested build so far based on the 4070 and Lian li A4H20

I'm now considering a miniITX built around a 4080 for Diablo 4 4k maxed out with Ray Tracing. (D4 is the only game I play)

Exploring but open to other suggestions:
Case: DAN C4-SFX (14.7l) that can fit 4080s
Monitor: Dell G3223Q Monitor

Preferences:
CPU: Intel
Asus/Gigabyte

Would really like to keep at <15 liters if possible. Appreciate miniITX build suggestions.
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Nobody sells Dan cases here. You have to import it.
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post May 19 2023, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(SyriuS @ May 18 2023, 11:33 PM)
Am aware I have to import the Dan case.

Thanks for your feedback, but I'm only looking at Mini ITX builds.
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If you can find that Dan C4-SFX, then go for these

Core i5-13600K - 1468
Corsair H115i Elite AIO - 619
Gigabyte Z690i Aorus Ultra Plus DDR4 or MSI B760i Edge Wifi DDR4 - 1598 / 939
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3600 - 389
Zotac RTX 4080 Trinity - 5298
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
Cooler Master V 850W SFX - 652
Dan C4-SFX - ???

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post May 24 2023, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(Reeson @ May 23 2023, 11:04 PM)
What would you change about this combo?

Using it for production - no GPU needed, onboard is enough.

Budget about 5-6K.

ASROCK B650M PG RIPTIDE + Ryzen 7950X (RM 4000)
Kingston Fury Beast RGB 2x16GB DDR5 5200MHz (RM 575)
Noctua NH-D15 (RM 588)
Kingston KC3000 1TB (RM 337)

Total: RM5500

Only mentioned parts are needed, the rest already have.

Thanks
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What production? DDR5-5200 will choke 7950X. DDR5-6000 CL30 is recommended.

NH-D15 is not enough to cool 7950X as well.

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post May 24 2023, 07:35 AM

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QUOTE(Reeson @ May 24 2023, 12:27 AM)
Noted on the RAM speed.

What would you recommend for the cooling?
Rather not go for liquid cooling.

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Wait for Deepcool Assassin 4.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ May 24 2023, 08:34 AM)
7950X has hard limit of 170W, unless OCing

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So dual tower with TDP of 200W should able to cool it down, Ryzen are a lot more power efficient and throws out less heat than Intel.

For that a D15 or FC140 would be plenty, even the new PS120 ought to do the job with its 280W TDP
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/phantom-s...wer-design.html
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Personally used Deepcool Assassin 3 on 5900X. Went 87C. Nope, its not enough for 7950X. And Zen 4 loves cooling. More turbo.
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QUOTE(bluffy83 @ May 24 2023, 04:20 PM)
The thing is my cousin give his GTX 1650 for me to build my own rig.

I,m not gaming for ages now. Dont know about current tech stuff and what rig to build. May I Have a suggestion for pc build with budget around 2K without GC. Planning to use GTX 1650 with it. Hope it can play current games~

TQ SIFU~
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Core i5-12400F - 640
Thermalright Assassin X 120 - 59
MSI B660M-A Pro Wifi - 620
PNY 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 168
Kingston KC3000 512GB - 229
FSP HV Pro 550W - 182
Tecware Nexus M2 case - 135

RM2033 total (Shopee prices)
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post May 25 2023, 12:15 AM

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QUOTE(Reeson @ May 24 2023, 10:32 PM)
Any suggestion on this combo?

AMD Ryzen 9 7900
ASRock B650M PG Riptide
Kingston Fury Beast DDR5 2X16GB 6000MHz
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120
Kingston KC3000 1TB

Upgrading, already have casing, GPU & PSU.

Thanks
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Once again. Cooler is not enough.

QUOTE(lala_cai @ May 24 2023, 11:20 PM)
Hi, need some help for rig suggestion. aiming to play Diablo 4 this June

[Budget]
RM5k exclude monitor

[Purpose]
Gaming

[Hardwares that will be re-use]
None

[Monitor resolution]
Prefer 1440p if budget allows

[Games & softwares that use frequently]
Diablo 4 and other 2-3 years ago AAA games

[Personal preferences]
No need any fancy RGB.
For budget monitor I did some check and thinking of these two

1. Gigabyte M27Q
2. Dell S2722DGM
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RM5k budget want 1440p. Tight squeeze...

Core i5-12400F - 640
Thermalright Assassin X 120 - 59
MSI B660M-A Pro Wifi - 620
PNY 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 168
Gigabyte RX 6800 16GB Gaming OC - 2398
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
Silverstone Viva Gold 750W - 319
Fractal Pop Air case - 378

RM4932 total (Shopee prices)

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QUOTE(lala_cai @ May 25 2023, 02:29 PM)
Thanks TristanX
seems like better to give up on 1440p based on budget.
I asked for a quote based on budget from shop and was provide with this.

INTEL CORE i5 13400F
ASROCK B760M PRO RS WIFI
KINGSTON 2X8GB 3600MHZ DDR4 FURY BEAST
KINGSTON 500G NV2 500GB
ZOTAC RTX4060TI 8GB DDR6X TWIN EDGE
LANCOOL 205M MESH
SILVERSTONE ST65FES230 650W 80+WHITE
AURAFLOW X EVO 240L

Is it ok?
from the forum I read, need to replace the SSD with KC3000.
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Not ok. RX 6800 and 6800 XT stomps 4060 Ti for 1440p.

Kingston No Value 2 SSD!

Low quality power supply. And AIO for i5-13400F?

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QUOTE(lala_cai @ May 26 2023, 12:09 PM)
Thanks guys for all the advise.
Really appreciate it.
roughly worked out the spec like this based on the advise and research on the forum

Core i5-13400F - 995
Thermalright Assassin X 120 - 59
MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi or Asrock B760M Pro RS Wifi ~680
Kingston fury beast 3200Mhz 8gbx2 - 208
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
1st player steampunk 750 gold - 375

GPU either RX 6800 or topup to RT4070

any budget case with usb-c infront to recommend? Corsair 4000D? Lian Li 216?

seems like budget burst till RM5.4k

Thanks again guys
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i5-12600K can be found for RM980 from Lazada. Better than 13400F.

Thermalright Frost Commander 140 can be found for RM265 from Shopee.
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QUOTE(bananalow @ May 26 2023, 07:19 PM)
Hi, could any guru recommend a all rounder Mini ITX desktop for me? I might do gaming occasionally on my 4K monitor (I dont mind do it at QHD when game, but if could do 4k is better, upcoming plan to play diablo 4) and also most of the time use it for multimedia and workstation/trading desk. My budget could stretch to RM6-7k.

I am currently looking something spec like below:

AMD Ryzen 7 7700
AMD ITX Mobo
AIO Cooling
32GB DDR5 RAM
NVDIA 4070
650W PSU
1TB NVME SSD
ITX case
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Low budget and "Could do 4k". Yeah, AMD ITX setup with expensive board, forced DDR5 and 4070 not gonna cut it.

Try

AMD Ryzen 7 7700 - 1429
Corsair H100i - 385 (double check for mounting support)
MSI B650i Edge - 1123
Kingston HyperX Fury Renegade 32GB DDR5-6000 kit - 789
Gigabyte RTX 4070 Gaming OC - 2899
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
Cooler Master V 650W SFX - 519
Lian Li A4-H2O case - 639

RM8132 total (Shopee prices)
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QUOTE(Tigerwoods @ May 27 2023, 01:53 PM)
[B][Budget] RM4 - 4.5k

[Purpose] Personal use and casual gaming

[Software that uses frequently] Construction software, e.g. CAD, Cubicost
CPU: Intel Core i5-12400F (6C/12T) CPU - RM690
Cooler: ID-Coding SE-24-XT CPU Cooler - RM82
MOBO: MSI PRO B660M-A WIFI DDR4 Motherboard - RM655
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB C16 3200Mhz DDR4 (8GB x 2) - RM268
GPU: RX 6600 Graphic Card - RM1,078
SSD: Kingston KC3000 512GB SSD - RM339
HDD: Seagate Barracuda 1TB HDD - RM185
PSU: NZXT C-Series 650W Power Supply - RM498
Case: Tecware Nexus Air M2 Case - RM135
Monitor: BenQ GW2480 24" IPS 1080p Monitor - RM508

*Total*: RM4,438

Any Sifu can help to check if these builds are ok or have any suggestions? My goal is to build a decent quality PC😀
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Why AMD cards for apps? Just go GTX 1650 or RTX 3050. That KC3000 is very expensive. 1TB at RM349 from Shopee.


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QUOTE(asus_2g @ May 27 2023, 07:58 PM)
hi Sifu, please improvise my custom rig building

CODE
INTEL CORE I5 12400F 699
PCCOOLER EK6000 Black 179
MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 825
Corsair VENGEANCE RGB PRO SL 32GB(2x16GB)DDR4 3600MHz C16 579
ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX3060TI GDDR6X Twin Edge 8GB DDR6X 1599
Super Flower Leadtex III Gold ARGB 650W Full Modular 499
CORSAIR Carbide Series 4000D Airflow Tempered Glass(Black) 359
XPG SX8200 PRO M.2 PCIE GEN3x4 1TB SSD x 2 (339x2) 678

total: RM5417 (idealtech)


my budget below RM6000
my special requirement: gaming desktop
1/ gpu must be able to play games at 2k
2/ must have decent 2tb nvme m.2 ssd - mainly to store games
3/ must have 32gb ram for future proof
4/ good psu
5/ mobo with wifi+ bt
6/ casing with good air flow and many usb ports
7/ please suggest good budget case fan
8/ please suggest pc builder alternative beside idealtech if any
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8GB GPU on 2023. LOL

Try

Core i5-13500 - 1135
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - 159
MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi - 659
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 349
Gigabyte RX 6700 XT 12GB Gaming OC (more powerful than 3060 Ti) - 1688
Kingston KC3000 2TB - 623
NZXT C750 - 519
Lian Li Lancool 216 case - 435

RM5560 total (Shopee prices)
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ May 27 2023, 11:09 PM)
Still can get 6700XT kah? Isnt it ady replaced by 6750XT?
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Can but price too close to RX 6800. Just budget not enough for 6800.

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