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TristanX
post Apr 25 2023, 03:20 PM

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QUOTE(lolzcalvin @ Apr 23 2023, 01:33 AM)
suspect is asus mobo issue. asus is fishy with their bios.
https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/...or_their_x670e/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/12uvc...urning_7000x3d/
however, this is still speculation, not gonna jump the gun. better wait for gn to see what's happening instead of pointing fingers like the 12vhpwr case last time.

also I believe we're discussing it in a wrong thread. probably should bring this over to the amd ryzen topic/thread lol
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Root cause found. Its another AMD blips. Kills motherboard too.
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen...ltages-to-blame
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post Apr 25 2023, 08:23 PM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Apr 25 2023, 07:16 PM)
The MSI Pro B660M-A Wifi and i5-12400f cost around RM1,339, why not I top up just a bit more to get the Ryzen 5 7600 with Gigabyte A620M Gaming X for around RM1,559?  biggrin.gif

Noted the Ryzen has 32MB L3 cache vs 18MB in the Intel
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And Ryzen 5 7600 gets crushed by i5-13500. Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE at RM139 can tame i5-13500 too.

Also, AM5 requires expensive DDR5 as well.

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post Apr 26 2023, 12:32 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Apr 25 2023, 08:49 PM)
That would require extra RM200+ for 32GB DDR5 ram vs DDR4 hmm.gif
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Also, with the issues going on for AMD. I would advise to stay away from them until they fixed it.

https://wccftech.com/asus-says-latest-am5-b...000-cpu-damage/

There is a chance of killing both CPU and motherboard.

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QUOTE(clon12 @ May 1 2023, 07:39 PM)
Hi all, appreciate if you can share your two cents on a new build for my gf's dad. He mainly uses the PC for watching movies and browsing.

[Budget] RM1.5k to RM1.8k

[Purpose] Watching movies and videos, browsing.

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Casing only.

[Monitor resolution] 1080p

[Personal preferences] Prefer Intel with integrated graphics.

[Location] KL

The components that will be required for his new upgrade are:
1) Processor
2) Motherboard
3) RAM
4) PSU
5) SSD

Thanks!
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Try

Core i3-12100 - 558
MSI B660M-E - 419
Kingston HyperX 8GB DDR4-3200 X2 - 188
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
Gigabyte P450B PSU - 116

RM1630 total (Shopee prices)
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post May 1 2023, 09:07 PM

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QUOTE(clon12 @ May 1 2023, 08:40 PM)
Thanks Tristan. Is the Gigabyte P450B PSU good? Was thinking if there are any better PSU if we are looking at increasing a bit more budget on it (approx RM150-200 range).
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RM150-200 still doesn't increase much quality. MSI A650BN price hike. RM249 now.

Try Adata Core Reactor 650W at RM402 if you want top grade. Its CWT platform.

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QUOTE(clon12 @ May 1 2023, 09:39 PM)
How about the CM MWE v2 Bronze? I saw it being recommended previously if not mistaken. Thanks!
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Just buy. Still not much quality increase.
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QUOTE(Tealifos @ May 2 2023, 06:33 PM)
Hi looking to buy new pc
Is there any shop that can complete in 3-4 hours beside viewnet?

Im more into aesthetic good looking pc with rgb(black and white theme)
Budget: 7k max
CPU: pls suggest
GPU: looking for something that can last long that is best mid gpu that can at least play 4k (playable but not high end like 4k120fps)so no need upgrade at least 5 years. Maybe got rgb or some light at the fan. And nvidia .
GAME : mostly dota 2 which dont need high end gpu but at least on ps5 level for future
Cooler: nzxt kraken z series
Motherboard: suggest
RAM: suggest
SSD: suggest
HDD : wd caviar blue 4tb
Power supply: suggest
Casing: im interested in nzxt h510 elite white or hyte y60 white (black n white theme)
Add on: lian li strimmer v2, nzxt aer 120/140 fans, rgb tube for aio
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You want aesthetics with stupidly overpriced parts but wants something that last for years. Good luck with RM7k.

I advise doing it slowly instead of aesthetics first.

4k. RTX 4070 is recommended minimum. If you gonna stay DOTA 2 only, then RTX 3060 12GB is more than enough.

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QUOTE(Tealifos @ May 2 2023, 08:42 PM)
I updated budget to 8k
What the min budget for this kind of build?
Aio is overprice but cheap aio fail me twice

My previous 4k build doesnt even last more than 2 years
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NZXT isnt immune to fails as well. Its just bad luck.

Try

Core i5-13600K - 1468
NZXT Z63 AIO - 1119 (EK AIO 280 D-RGB at RM588)
MSI Z790-P - 988
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3200 RGB kit - 392
Gigabyte RTX 4070 12GB Windforce - 2899
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
NZXT C750 - 485
NZXT H510 Flow case - 359

RM8059 total (Shopee prices)

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QUOTE(Tealifos @ May 3 2023, 02:24 PM)
true but i find that expensive elctronic things does make us more satisfy ? ex apple product/high end android phone
thanks for the suggestion
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Not really. RM2k phone is enough for me. Camera? DSLR makes phone cameras a laughing stock.
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QUOTE(axercr777 @ Apr 25 2023, 10:55 AM)
[Budget] 3.5K Rig only

[Purpose] Editing using Adobe

[Hardwares that will be re-use] Case Cougar MX410

[Monitor resolution] 4k

[Personal preferences] None
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How about these?

Core i5-13500 - 1139 (back to back order, or you can get a bit overpriced 13400 with 4 less e- cores for RM50 less)
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - 139
MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi - 679
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 359
Kingson KC3000 1TB - 349
Adata Core Reactor 650W - 405

RM3070 total (Shopee prices)
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QUOTE(mizi28 @ May 4 2023, 11:45 PM)
preparing PC for coming Diablo 4 1080p gaming

please roast/advise my part selection

i3 12100F + MSI B660M Pro A...RM1009
Kingston Fury Beast 64GB 3200mhz (32GB x2) ...RM678
Kingston KC3000 1TB...RM349
XPG Core Reactor 650W...RM402
Tecware Nexus Air M2 ...RM135

GPU gonna look at used RTX2060..around RM700 i presume

total now is RM3273..trying to keep below rm3k, idk whether 64GB Ram is necessary
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You don't need 64GB. 32GB will last you a while. This year is 2023. I would advise against going quad core. Go at least i5-12400F.

Also, games these days are hungry for VRAM. RTX 2060 is not recommended. Go for 6700 XT 12GB if you can afford it.
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QUOTE(Windsux @ May 5 2023, 09:42 PM)
Looking for a 850 psu
Using i13700 z790 tomahawk
Rx6800xt , 9 rgb fan with aio
Any sifu can recommend what brand psu ?
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Try Seasonic Focus GX 850W or Corsair HX 850W.
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QUOTE(Windsux @ May 6 2023, 12:04 AM)
Corsair rm850x shift how about it ?
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Check your casing space. I remember the connector location is different.
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QUOTE(Advent Syracuase @ May 6 2023, 03:36 PM)
Need recommendation for 10k PC build for 4k gaming. (RT is not a must). Best value if possible. I dont mind bad looking case as long as the cooling is good.

Need help sifus~
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How about these?

Core i5-13600K - 1459
EK AIO 360 Basic + LGA 1700 kit - 498+ 19
MSI Z790-P - 988
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3600 kit - 369
Zotac RTX 4080 - 5298
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
Corsair RM850e - 565
Lian Li Lancool III case - 539

RM10084 total (Shopee prices)
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QUOTE(Windsux @ May 6 2023, 08:15 PM)
Naughty sifu recommend 850e but ask me to hx850 lol
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850e got reduced quality parts.
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QUOTE(Chronotech @ May 6 2023, 11:38 PM)
Exploring a gaming rig configuration. Been a long time since I looked at a custom build and not familiar of what is current and available parts locally. Helpful suggestions from the experts here appreciated.

My last couple of systems were Dell Auroras. However Dell is asking for a lot of money to upgrade the R15 system from RTX 3060TI to either a 4080 or 4090 GPU. In the past the premium for the pre-build with comparable parts were more reasonable. The problem with Dell is if you upgrade the GPU or memory later with non-Dell parts, you may end up with compatibility issues at times. Unlike the early days where Dell used standard Intel motherboards with the Aurora.

CPU 13900KF or 7950X/7800X
GPU RTX 4080/4090 or RX 7900

SFF case and ITX motherboard

32GB RAM and 2 x M.2 drives
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I don't think there is ITX case that supports quad slot GPU. Got people tried NR200P with Gigabyte RTX 3080 Extreme. I cannot guarantee it can fit RTX 4090.
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QUOTE(Chronotech @ May 7 2023, 12:17 AM)
What "small" case would fit the 4090 in your experiences? May opt for 4080 if there is a SFF case that can fit. Small is better. No issue with cooling as it runs in aircond room.
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Many casing can fit triple slot. Bare in mind some casing still requires PCIE 4.0 riser. Watch out for it.

Lian Li A4-H2O (smallest)
Lian Li PC-Q58
Cooler Master NR200P
Fractal Ridge
Jonsplus i100 Pro (not exactly small since it is almost 20L in size)
SSUPD Meshlicious

Also, 13900K is very demanding with cooling. I would advise using casing with 360mm AIO like Jonsplus i100.
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QUOTE(Rise_of_the_Bat @ May 7 2023, 07:28 PM)
Hi, need some help for suggestion:

[Budget]
I need at least 16GB of RAM
and RTX 3060 (12 GB VRAM)
at least i5 CPU
Please give me a lowest possible budget, given that the rest of the component does not bottleneck the GPU
I can accept a smaller SSD for system and apps only, I will just use external drive for storage purposes.

[Purpose]
3D Modeling and Animation, Generative AI

[Hardware that will be re-use]
Monitor x2

[Monitor resolution]
1080p x2

[Games & software that use frequently]
Blender

[Location]
KL

Thanks  notworthy.gif
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Lowest but no cap?

Core i9-13900K - 2728
Corsair H170i Elite Capellix - 799
MSI Z790 Tomahawk DDR4 - 1430
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3600 kit - 369
Palit RTX 3060 12GB - 1257 (last day today on Lazada)
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
NZXT C650 - 469
Lian Li Lancool III non-RGB case - 539

RM7931 (Shopee and Lazada prices)
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QUOTE(Rise_of_the_Bat @ May 7 2023, 08:44 PM)
sorry because before this I have no idea what kind of budget is possible, given my requirement.
now based on myway1985's reply, I think I wanna put the cap on 5.5k. is that possible?
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How about these?

Core i7-13700 - 1779
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - 139
MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi - 679
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 349
Palit RTX 3060 12GB - 1257 (last day today on Lazada)
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
NZXT C650 - 469
Fractal Pop Air case - 359

RM5380 (Shopee and Lazada prices)
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QUOTE(th3game @ May 8 2023, 11:20 PM)
Hi, need some help for suggestion:

[Budget]
5-6k

[Purpose]
3D MODELLING, RUNNING ENGINEERING SOFWARE, ADOBE PS,ILLUSTRATOR

[Hardware that will be re-use]
GOT 1 WIDE SCREEN CURRENTLY USED

[Monitor resolution]
3840X2160

[Games & software that use frequently]
3D MODELLING LIKE AUTOCAD PLANT 3D SOFWARE
ENGINEERING SOFTWARE CAESAR II SOFTWARE, STAAD PRO
CADWORX
NAVISWORK
ADOBE PS, ILLUSTRATOR

[Location]
KL

Thanks
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How about these?

Core i7-13700 - 1779
Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE - 139
MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi - 679
Kingston HyperX 32GB DDR4-3200 kit - 349
GTX 1650 - 679
Kingston KC3000 1TB - 349
NZXT C650 - 469
Fractal Pop Air case - 359

RM4802 (Shopee and Lazada prices)

i9-13900 setup will go over your budget due to out of stock hardware and cooling requirements.

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