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post Nov 14 2025, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(n8210 @ Nov 12 2025, 09:30 AM)
https://www.minisforum.com/products/minisfo...87d3e821f&_ss=r

Is this not enough to play Wuthering Wave? Uncle not a gamer, but my son initially says it was ok, but now claims it is not good enough in terms of gpu. All settings set to low and only get 24 FPS. Hence, unable to dodge some attacks.

I looked at the screen when he plays, it seems more like it is a difficult game and you need to have patients in order to "learn" how to pass each stages. He blames the pc.

Some expert please give more insights and advice. Now he is demanding for another pc, one that is really gamer built.
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Hi guys, going back to this topic... we agree to buy a new gaming pc for my son. Thanks for sharing Wuthering Wave game spec, but of course we are not buying a new pc just so he can play this game. Can I therefore get some suggestions for a decent gaming pc spec, that is currently in the mid range budget, say around RM3000-4000, that would be still usable 2-3 years down the road, and can play other first shooter games in 2025 or near future.

I ask because some say, for example, GPU that is RTX --30, or --50 is not worth buying. Must go for --70, --80, --90. I have no clue, that is why I am asking. Something like
4090 is better than
5030 (not worth although is 5000 series, but is the budget version)

Thank you all in advance.
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post Nov 14 2025, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(n8210 @ Nov 14 2025, 10:13 AM)
Hi guys, going back to this topic... we agree to buy a new gaming pc for my son. Thanks for sharing Wuthering Wave game spec, but of course we are not buying a new pc just so he can play this game. Can I therefore get some suggestions for a decent gaming pc spec, that is currently in the mid range budget, say around RM3000-4000, that would be still usable 2-3 years down the road, and can play other first shooter games in 2025 or near future.

I ask because some say, for example, GPU that is RTX --30, or --50 is not worth buying. Must go for --70, --80, --90. I have no clue, that is why I am asking. Something like
4090 is better than
5030 (not worth although is 5000 series, but is the budget version)

Thank you all in advance.
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Bad time to buy PC. You want future proofing some more... RAM and SSD prices skyrocketing due to shortage. I would advise to buy immediately if you can find old prices. If you can buy parts separately and build your own, you can save some money.

If you really need to buy now, try

Core i5-14400F - 529
MSI B760M-A Pro Wifi DDR4 - 599
Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB DDR4-3600 kit - 279
Asus RX 9060 XT 16GB Dual (avoid 8GB) - 1476 (Shopee, on sale price. May not last long)
WD SN850X 1TB - 439 (KC3000 now more expensive...)
FSP Vita GD 850W - 399
Cooler Master Masterbox Lite 600 case - 259

RM3980 total (Viewnet prices unless stated - https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_6j...feUULTGxIjPEFpo )

This post has been edited by TristanX: Nov 14 2025, 01:14 PM
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post Nov 14 2025, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(n8210 @ Nov 14 2025, 10:13 AM)
Hi guys, going back to this topic... we agree to buy a new gaming pc for my son. Thanks for sharing Wuthering Wave game spec, but of course we are not buying a new pc just so he can play this game. Can I therefore get some suggestions for a decent gaming pc spec, that is currently in the mid range budget, say around RM3000-4000, that would be still usable 2-3 years down the road, and can play other first shooter games in 2025 or near future.

I ask because some say, for example, GPU that is RTX --30, or --50 is not worth buying. Must go for --70, --80, --90. I have no clue, that is why I am asking. Something like
4090 is better than
5030 (not worth although is 5000 series, but is the budget version)

Thank you all in advance.
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I dunno how future proof your looking for coz it depends what kinda shooter games he plays. For that spec Tristan gives, upcoming COD BO7 would be around 100-150 FPS @1080P, which is barely ok for competitive shooters today. Future COD / BF games would drop that further down, so you may be looking to upgrade sooner than later.

If the intention is futureproofing for games, I reco get PS5 instead. It will guarantee satisfactory gameplay thru its lifecycle even when game visual gets better.

But if you do go with buying a PC, do get it now as in this weekend coz RAM pricing going up on daily and SSD are rebounding upwards ady. DDR4 RAM prices are getting insane levels for previous gen tech.
And dont let the shop talk into buying a single 32GB stick of RAM (or any size) you will want to have 2x matching pairs (16GB x2).
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Thank you TristanX and Babylon. I wonder if this is a good opportunity to have him be patient. The last time ram and hdd prices went up really high that I can recall, was many years ago. Also cause I have stopped buying pc for many years. But it eventually would come back down like 4-6 months later after production catches back up with demand.

Maybe the other thing to consider is using a Oculink, since he is using minisforum UM870. Minisforum have DEG1 docking station. So I need to buy only 2 things, avoiding hdd and ram :-
- PSU
- GPU

Am I right?
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QUOTE(n8210 @ Nov 14 2025, 02:50 PM)
Thank you TristanX and Babylon. I wonder if this is a good opportunity to have him be patient. The last time ram and hdd prices went up really high that I can recall,  was many years ago. Also cause I have stopped buying pc for many years. But it eventually would come back down like 4-6 months later after production catches back up with demand.

Maybe the other thing to consider is using a Oculink, since he is using minisforum UM870. Minisforum have DEG1 docking station. So I need to buy only 2 things, avoiding hdd and ram :-
- PSU
- GPU

Am I right?
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That DDR4 price is still at normal level. Just hope it stays as long as it can. WD price did not get adjusted yet.

Docking station isn't cheap and it is only PCIE x4. It will bottleneck powerful graphic cards.

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 14 2025, 03:07 PM)
That DDR4 price is still at normal level. Just hope it stays as long as it can. WD price did not get adjusted yet.

Docking station isn't cheap and it is only PCIE x4. It will bottleneck powerful graphic cards.
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Alright then... limitation of existing hardware has already decided for me. No to Oculink since any investment here is most likely the first to face bottlenecks in future. Might as well take that money and put into a new and proper gaming rig. Thank you TX, once again.
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QUOTE(n8210 @ Nov 14 2025, 02:50 PM)
Thank you TristanX and Babylon. I wonder if this is a good opportunity to have him be patient. The last time ram and hdd prices went up really high that I can recall,  was many years ago. Also cause I have stopped buying pc for many years. But it eventually would come back down like 4-6 months later after production catches back up with demand.

Maybe the other thing to consider is using a Oculink, since he is using minisforum UM870. Minisforum have DEG1 docking station. So I need to buy only 2 things, avoiding hdd and ram :-
- PSU
- GPU

Am I right?
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It wont come down so fast or easily nowadays, these makers have side agreements to maintain it when prices go high, GPU price have been on the high ever since Covid, SSD prices had been dropping until start this year has shot up and predict will go even higher. Even DDR5 prices have largely been stable all year and didnt drop much coz nobody was pushing out inventory that crashed prices like in the past. If you want some meaningful price drops it will likely be a year or 2 more.
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post Nov 15 2025, 11:14 PM

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Hi all, need a suggestion on Desktor tower

1) Range budget: RM8,000
2) CPU: AMD cpu
3) GPU: RTX 5070ti
4) Others: PSU, case, ram, mobo, ssd that fit the price range.
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post Nov 16 2025, 02:09 AM

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QUOTE(xenon_aniki @ Nov 15 2025, 11:14 PM)
Hi all, need a suggestion on Desktor tower

1) Range budget: RM8,000
2) CPU: AMD cpu
3) GPU: RTX 5070ti
4) Others: PSU, case, ram, mobo, ssd that fit the price range.
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RAM and SSD price hike. Gonna be tough.

Try

Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 1399
Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 - 192 (Shopee - Dotatech)
MSI B650M Gaming Plus Wifi - 699
G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB DDR5-6000 kit (double check the CAS latency or CL before you buy. It should be CL30 or lower)- 719
Gigabyte RTX 5070 Ti 16GB Windforce - 3599
WD SN850X 1TB - 439
FSP Vita GM 1000W - 599
Corsair 4000D Frame case - 399

RM8045 total (Viewnet prices unless stated)
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post Nov 16 2025, 10:12 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 16 2025, 02:09 AM)
RAM and SSD price hike. Gonna be tough.

Try

Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 1399
Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 - 192 (Shopee - Dotatech)
MSI B650M Gaming Plus Wifi - 699
G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB DDR5-6000 kit (double check the CAS latency or CL before you buy. It should be CL30 or lower)- 719
Gigabyte RTX 5070 Ti 16GB Windforce - 3599
WD SN850X 1TB - 439
FSP Vita GM 1000W - 599
Corsair 4000D Frame case - 399

RM8045 total (Viewnet prices unless stated)
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Can reduce a bit by going with FSP Vita GM 850W @RM499.
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post Nov 16 2025, 08:59 PM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 16 2025, 02:09 AM)
RAM and SSD price hike. Gonna be tough.

Try

Ryzen 7 7800X3D - 1399
Thermalright Royal Pretor 130 - 192 (Shopee - Dotatech)
MSI B650M Gaming Plus Wifi - 699
G.Skill Trident Z5 32GB DDR5-6000 kit (double check the CAS latency or CL before you buy. It should be CL30 or lower)- 719
Gigabyte RTX 5070 Ti 16GB Windforce - 3599
WD SN850X 1TB - 439
FSP Vita GM 1000W - 599
Corsair 4000D Frame case - 399

RM8045 total (Viewnet prices unless stated)
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post Nov 16 2025, 11:46 PM

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F — RM599
Motherboard: GIGABYTE B850M FORCE WIFI 6E (mATX) — RM609
Graphics Card: COLORFUL RTX 5070 Ti 16GB ULTRA W OC — RM3699
Case: Corsair 4000D — RM399
Power Supply: FSP Vita 850W — RM609
RAM: G.Skill RIPJAW S5 DDR5-6000 — RM319
Storage: LEXAR NM610 PRO 1TB - RM239

Total: RM6473 based on czone

Im thinking to buy all these on czone.
anything i can reduce? is cpu stock cooler sufficient?
use case: AI 24/7 non stop running
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post Nov 17 2025, 12:01 AM

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QUOTE(Invulnerability @ Nov 16 2025, 11:46 PM)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 7500F — RM599
Motherboard: GIGABYTE B850M FORCE WIFI 6E (mATX) — RM609
Graphics Card: COLORFUL RTX 5070 Ti 16GB ULTRA W OC — RM3699
Case: Corsair 4000D — RM399
Power Supply: FSP Vita 850W — RM609
RAM: G.Skill RIPJAW S5 DDR5-6000 — RM319
Storage:  LEXAR NM610 PRO 1TB - RM239

Total: RM6473 based on czone

Im thinking to buy all these on czone.
anything i can reduce? is cpu stock cooler sufficient?
use case: AI 24/7 non stop running
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Stock cooler is sufficient for normal usage but for 24/7 use will need a tower cooler, at least SE214/224XT, Hyper212, Assassin Spirit 120.

That RAM @RM319 is it single stick? What size? Ideally you want 2x for dual channel

Also that SSD is pisspoor DRAMless. Go for WD SN850X 1TB - 439
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I’m thinking of upgrading my boot drive SSD.
Currently using a Crucial P3 plus 1TB SSD.

I saw a Crucial T710 2TB with heatsink for sale for ~Rm800 (Amazon Black Friday sales).

Is it worth the upgrade ?
Will I notice the speed difference ?
Main use is solely gaming and I’m using a mobo with PCIE 4.0 nvme.

Current setup is.
ryzen 7800x3d
Asrock A620i lightning wifi
32GB klevv 6000mhz CL32
RTX5080 windforce OC SFF
Deepcool assassin 4s cpu cooler.
CH160 deepcool case
1TB NVME SSD + 2TB NVME SSD (both crucial p3+).
850W Thermal right gold TG850-W.

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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Nov 23 2025, 09:58 AM)
I’m thinking of upgrading my boot drive SSD.
Currently using a Crucial P3 plus 1TB SSD.

I saw a Crucial T710 2TB with heatsink for sale for ~Rm800 (Amazon Black Friday sales). 

Is it worth the upgrade ?
Will I notice the speed difference ?
Main use is solely gaming and I’m using a mobo with PCIE 4.0 nvme.

Current setup is.
ryzen 7800x3d
Asrock A620i lightning wifi
32GB klevv 6000mhz CL32
RTX5080 windforce OC SFF
Deepcool assassin 4s cpu cooler.
CH160 deepcool case
1TB NVME SSD + 2TB NVME SSD (both crucial p3+).
850W Thermal right gold TG850-W.
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Copy pasta from Tristan
WD Black SN850X 1TB at RM439 from Viewnet.

Samsung 990 Pro 2TB for RM764 at Just IT on Shopee. Viewnet selling it at RM759.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_6j...feUULTGxIjPEFpo

If your mobo is Gen4 only your not gonna see much of any gains with Gen5 SSD. Whatmore buying from USA means no warranty.
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Nov 17 2025, 12:01 AM)
Stock cooler is sufficient for normal usage but for 24/7 use will need a tower cooler, at least SE214/224XT, Hyper212, Assassin Spirit 120.

That RAM @RM319 is it single stick? What size? Ideally you want 2x for dual channel

Also that SSD is pisspoor DRAMless. Go for WD SN850X 1TB - 439
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QUOTE(babylon52281 @ Nov 23 2025, 10:46 AM)
Copy pasta from Tristan
WD Black SN850X 1TB at RM439 from Viewnet.

Samsung 990 Pro 2TB for RM764 at Just IT on Shopee. Viewnet selling it at RM759.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_6j...feUULTGxIjPEFpo

If your mobo is Gen4 only your not gonna see much of any gains with Gen5 SSD. Whatmore buying from USA means no warranty.
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The link doesn’t seem to be working.
But yeah, my only concern is the warranty.

Any issues past the 30 days return window means I’ll need to ship the part back to crucial US. They’ll honor that, but I’ll likely need to pay for the shipment there. (Would be around Rm 150-200-ish I estimate).

I do intend to upgrade my mobo sometime soon as well.
That’s why the <rm50 difference to future proof it seems worthwhile.
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Any chance the SN8100 , samsung 9100 pro or T710 be sold locally at under rm1k for 2TB?



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QUOTE(LegendLee @ Nov 23 2025, 11:48 AM)
The link doesn’t seem to be working.
But yeah, my only concern is the warranty.

Any issues past the 30 days return window means I’ll need to ship the part back to crucial US. They’ll honor that, but I’ll likely need to pay for the shipment there. (Would be around Rm 150-200-ish I estimate).

I do intend to upgrade my mobo sometime soon as well.
That’s why the <rm50 difference to future proof it seems worthwhile.
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Any chance the SN8100 , samsung 9100 pro or T710 be sold locally at under rm1k for 2TB?
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That link is exactly same as the text. This will work.

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1_6j...feUULTGxIjPEFpo
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Might as well buy Samsung 990 Pro 2TB at RM764. Better performance at same price.

 

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